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Old May 12th, 2011, 05:12 PM
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President Kissinger?

Was there ever any possibilty of having this man as the first Jewish president of The United States Of America?
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Old May 12th, 2011, 05:13 PM
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Was there ever any possibilty of having this man as the first Jewish president of The United States Of America?
He was foreign born so no. President of Germany on the other hand....
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Old May 12th, 2011, 08:56 PM
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Had there been any earlier attempt to amend the Constittuion to delete the 'natural born' clause
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Old May 12th, 2011, 09:15 PM
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No attempt, but I do seem to remember this was discussed to some extent because I think at the time the Secretary of State was 3rd in line of sucession after the POTUS and VP. I think this was mentioned when Nixon nominated him as Secretary of State
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Old May 13th, 2011, 02:16 AM
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Was there ever any possibilty of having this man as the first Jewish president of The United States Of America?
No. Kissinger is Constitutionally ineligible to be POTUS.
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Old May 13th, 2011, 02:20 AM
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No. Kissinger is Constitutionally ineligible to be POTUS.
Same with Madeline Albright, except her English was better.
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Old May 13th, 2011, 03:57 AM
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Same with Madeline Albright, except her English was better.
And Arnold Schwarzenegger, except his English wasn't much better.
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Old May 13th, 2011, 04:27 AM
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And Arnold Schwarzenegger, except his English wasn't much better.
When was Arnold Secretary of State?
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Old May 13th, 2011, 04:39 AM
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When was Arnold Secretary of State?
Or Jewish?
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Old May 13th, 2011, 05:26 AM
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No attempt, but I do seem to remember this was discussed to some extent because I think at the time the Secretary of State was 3rd in line of sucession after the POTUS and VP. I think this was mentioned when Nixon nominated him as Secretary of State
It was discussed, but Sec of State is actually 4th in the line of succession, behind the VP, Speaker of the House and President pro tem of the Senate. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_..._of_succession
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Old May 13th, 2011, 06:01 AM
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People who aren't natural born citizens are excluded from the succession list. Back when Bush was president and we had some foreign-born cabinet officials, they were excluded and people below them moved up a slot.
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Old May 13th, 2011, 10:15 AM
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Let's presume that sometime prior to Henry Kissinger's service as Secretary of State a constitutional amendment allowing for foreign born Presidents was passed. I realize the intensely difficult nature of passing constitutional amendments, and the implausibility of the set up here, but bear with me. If Henry Kissinger was eligible for the Presidency would he be elected? My sense is that he wouldn't be, but what's the consensus here. That is, leaving aside the illegibility question could Henry Kissinger have won a Presidential election?
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Old May 13th, 2011, 01:48 PM
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That is, leaving aside the illegibility question could Henry Kissinger have won a Presidential election?

Hardly. He was a university professor, a inside man, not someone with carisma to win a presidential race. IMHO
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Old May 13th, 2011, 02:34 PM
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Setting aside Kissinger's birth circumstances, the man simply had no crowd appeal. Nor did he "sound" American, with his German accent. He was not a popular public figure, not did he go out of his way to make himself one, unlike a potential Schwarzenegger candidacy. If his career was OTL until after Nixon's resignation, his role in the Nixon administration and the perception that he unnecessarily prolonged the Vietnam War for political reasons would have left him standing at the starting gate in the primaries.
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Old May 13th, 2011, 03:49 PM
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Hardly. He was a university professor, a inside man, not someone with carisma to win a presidential race. IMHO
My thought exactly. He would put voters to sleep.
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Old May 13th, 2011, 05:28 PM
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Rules were of course slightly bent for John McCain were they not?
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Old May 13th, 2011, 05:30 PM
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Kissinger As Secretary general Of The UN?

Well instead? Indeed could somebody from a permanent security concil member state or with links to one ie Kissinger ever have become UN secretary general?
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Old May 13th, 2011, 05:41 PM
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Well instead? Indeed could somebody from a permanent security concil member state or with links to one ie Kissinger ever have become UN secretary general?
No, secretary generals usually come from not-permanent-member countries.
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Old May 13th, 2011, 05:42 PM
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Rules were of course slightly bent for John McCain were they not?
Well, Panama Canal zone was a US territory in that time, right?
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Old May 13th, 2011, 07:57 PM
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Rules were of course slightly bent for John McCain were they not?
No, the rule was not. MCain was born in the Canal Zone, a US possession at the time, to parents who were both US citizens.
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