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Old May 21st, 2012, 12:37 AM
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Well it appears when I declared that "Dwyer hasn't a chance," I was wrong.

It seems Dwyer will be the GOP nominee, therefore Rumsfeld would be a good VP.

Also, if Brown loses the primaries to Kennedy, I can see him going 3rd party, and throwing the election to the GOP'ers.

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Old May 21st, 2012, 12:51 AM
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This is getting good. Dryer and Rumsfeld for the GOP.
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Old May 21st, 2012, 04:26 PM
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Still ready for Teddy
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Old May 21st, 2012, 04:48 PM
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Go Brown! Successfully primary-ing an incumbent POTUS would be fantastic and really interesting.
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Old May 22nd, 2012, 08:05 PM
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RUMSFELD CAMPAIGN BROKE? SOURCES SUGGEST ILLINOIS SENATOR MAY DROP OUT AFTER HOME STATE PRIMARY
March 14th, 1992



BROWN AIMING FOR DOUBLE VICTORY IN ILLINOIS AND MICHIGAN TO DELIVER KNOCKOUT BLOW TO PRESIDENT
March 15th, 1992



KENNEDY TAKES ILLINOIS, BUT LOSES MICHIGAN. BROWN VOWS TO “FIGHT FOR THOSE LEFT BEHIND” BY POTUS
March 17th, 1992



RUMSFELD WINS HOME STATE, DWYER TAKES MICHIGAN. ASHCROFT FINISHES THIRD IN BOTH STATES
March 17th, 1992



THE END IN ILLINOIS – DONALD RUMSFELD LEAVES RACE, DECLINES TO ENDORSE
March 18th, 1992



GOP ESTABLISHMENT BEGINS TO CALL FOR ASHCROFT TO GET OUT OF RACE TO ALLOW DWYER TO FOCUS ON GENERAL ELECTION
March 20th, 1992



ASHCROFT DECLARES HE “WILL FIGHT ALL THE WAY TO THE CONVENTION”, EVEN IF CAMPAIGN RUNS OUT OF MONEY
March 21st, 1992



PRESIDENT VICTORIOUS IN CONNECTICUT, DWYER BEATS ASHCROFT BY DOUBLE DIGITS
March 24th, 1992



TWO IN A ROW FOR BOTH KENNEDY AND DWYER AFTER WINNING VERMONT
March 31st, 1992



UNEMPLOYMENT RISES AGAIN – PRESIDENT KENNEDY APPROVAL HOVERS AROUND 40%
April 1st, 1992



NUMBERS LOOK BAD FOR PRESIDENT IN NORTH DAKOTA – WILL NOT CAMPAIGN AHEAD OF TOMORROW’S PRIMARY
April 1st, 1992



DWYER RETURNS TO HARRISBURG WHILE ASHCROFT CAMPAIGNS ACROSS ALASKA
April 1st, 1992



BIG NIGHT FOR THE UNDERDOGS – BROWN AND ASHCROFT SECURE VICTORIES
April 2nd, 1992



KENNEDY CAMPAIGN BELIEVES IT CAN FORCE BROWN FROM THE RACE AFTER APRIL 7TH PRIMARIES – BROWN CAMPAIGN RUBBISHES REPORTS THAT CALIFORNIA GOVERNOR WILL DROP OUT
April 4th, 1992



CLEAN SWEEP KENNEDY – PRESIDENT WINS FOUR OUT OF FOUR IN KANSAS, MINNESOTA, NEW YORK AND WISCONSIN
April 7th, 1992



BROWN DECLINES TO LEAVE RACE – WILL FIGHT “AS LONG AS THERE IS AIR IN MY LUNGS”
April 7th, 1992



DWYER SECURES TRIPLE VICTORY IN KANSAS, NEW YORK AND WISCONSIN – ASHCROFT RUNS CLOSE IN KANSAS
April 7th, 1992



VIRGINIA IMPORTANT STATE FOR DWYER CAMP – ASHCROFT POLLING WITHIN MARGIN OF ERROR, BUT STATE IS A CHANCE FOR PENNSYLVANIA GOVERNOR TO PROVE HIS WORTH IN THE SOUTH
April 9th, 1992



DWYER WINS VIRGINIA BY LESS THAN 1%
April 11th, 1992



IS THIS THE LAST STAND? EXPERTS SUGGEST BROWN NEEDS A VICTORY SOON TO KEEP UP CHALLENGE
April 12th, 1992



MISSOURI GOES FOR BROWN – KENNEDY CAMP IN SHOCK AFTER NARROW LOSS
April 14th, 1992



FORMER VP BOB KERREY GIVES FIRST INTERVIEW SINCE SHOOTING TO CNN – ACKNOWLEDGES KENNEDY ADMINISTRATION “HAS DISAPPOINTED MANY WHO VOTED FOR IT”
April 19th, 1992



BROWN SEIZES KERREY COMMENTS, LABELING KENNEDY CAMPAIGN “A SINKING SHIP”
April 20th, 1992



DWYER BYPASSING PENNSYLVANIA AND CAMPAIGNING IN INDIANA – FOCUSING ON TOUGHER STATES
April 22nd, 1992



BROWN WINS UTAH BY DOUBLE DIGITS – CALIFORNIA GOVERNOR “OPTIMISTIC” HE CAN WIN PENNSYLVANIA
April 27th, 1992



PRESIDENT IN PITTSBURGH AHEAD OF CRUCIAL PRIMARY
April 28th, 1992



BROWN BESTS KENNEDY IN PENNSYLVANIA. DWYER WINS HOME STATE BY THIRTY-FIVE POINTS
April 28th, 1992



STREAK CONTINUES AS DWYER WINS BOTH INDIANA AND NORTH CAROLINA, BUT ASHCROFT RUNS CLOSE IN BOTH
May 5th, 1992



PRESIDENT NARROWLY WINS NORTH CAROLINA, BUT BROWN TAKES INDIANA BY FIVE POINTS
May 5th, 1992



DELAWARE GOES FOR KENNEDY
May 9th, 1992



BROWN IS THE VICTOR IN ARIZONA
May 10th, 1992



PRESIDENT TAKES NEBRASKA AND WEST VIRGINIA BY SMALL MARGINS. DWYER WINS BOTH STATES COMFORTABLY
May 12th, 1992



ASHCROFT CAMPAIGN RUNNING LOW ON FUNDS – FORMER MISSOURI GOVERNOR INSISTS HE WILL REMAIN AS “CONSERVATIVE VOICE” UNTIL CONVENTION
May 14th, 1992



BROWN TAKES WASHINGTON BY WIDE MARGIN, BUT OREGON GIVES PRESIDENT A NARROW VICTORY
May 19th, 1992



AFTER WIN IN OREGON, DWYER RETURNS TO PENNSYLVANIA
May 19th, 1992



BREAKING: PENNSYLVANIA GOVERNOR AND PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE R. BUDD DWYER ARRESTED IN HIS OFFICE
May 20th, 1992

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Old May 22nd, 2012, 08:32 PM
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BREAKING: PENNSYLVANIA GOVERNOR AND PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE R. BUDD DWYER ARRESTED IN HIS OFFICE
May 20th, 1992

Will Budd suffer the same fate as he did IOTL? I don't mean to be inappropriate, but a Governor and Presidential Candidate doing what he did end up doing would be more shocking!
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Old May 22nd, 2012, 08:42 PM
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Budd's in trouble.
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Old May 22nd, 2012, 10:04 PM
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The schlitz is about to hit the fan.
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Old May 23rd, 2012, 02:02 AM
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Holy shit So Ashcroft is going to be the GOP nominee? And with Brown splitting the Kennedy vote?
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Old May 23rd, 2012, 02:49 AM
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Brown is doing great. Unseat the bloated oaf!
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Old May 23rd, 2012, 05:42 AM
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Gosh. I wonder if Dwyer commits suicide in this TL? That would really be one for the history books. I bet Kennedy is sitting there wishing all this had come out AFTER the Republican Convention!
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Old May 23rd, 2012, 11:57 AM
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R. BUDD DWYER CHARGED – ACCUSED OF ACCEPTING BRIBES IN EXCHANGE FOR STATE CONTRACTS
May 21st, 1992



DWYER POSTS BAIL, DENIES CHARGES – “THE TRUTH WILL COME OUT”
May 22nd, 1992



UNDER PRESSURE FROM PARTY LEADERS, DWYER ENDS PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN
May 23rd, 1992



ASHCROFT STAYING IN RACE – DECLARES DWYER SCANDAL “ENDEMIC OF THE CORRUPTION IN OUR GOVERNMENT”
May 23rd, 1992



PRESIDENT KENNEDY REFUSES TO COMMENT ON DWYER SCANDAL
May 23rd, 1992



JERRY BROWN CALLS ON PRESIDENT TO DROP OUT OF RACE – CLAIMS PRESIDENT CAN NOT WIN EVEN AGAINST SCANDAL HIT GOP
May 24th, 1992



KENNEDY TAKES ARKANSAS – VICE-PRESIDENT CLINTON VITAL ON THE STUMP IN HOME STATE
May 26th, 1992



IDAHO IS ADDED TO PRESIDENT’S COLUMN, WHILE BROWN TAKES KENTUCKY
May 26th, 1992



ASHCROFT WINS ARKANSAS AND KENTUCKY WITH ONLY TOKEN OPPOSITION
May 26th, 1992



VIRGINIA NARROWLY GOES FOR PRESIDENT KENNEDY – BIG BLOW TO BROWN CAMPAIGN
May 29th, 1992



FINAL DAY OF DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY - WITH SIX STATES UP FOR GRABS, BROWN NEEDS NEAR-SWEEP TO HAVE CHANCE AT NOMINATION
June 2nd, 1992



ASHCROFT TAKES ALABAMA, CALIFORNIA, MONTANA, NEW JERSEY, NEW MEXICO AND OHIO BY COMFORTABLE MARGINS
June 2nd, 1992



BROWN TAKES ALABAMA AND HOME STATE OF CALIFORNIA, BUT PRESIDENT WINS FOUR CONTESTS – RENOMINATION NOW LOOKS SECURE
June 2nd, 1992



IN SPEECH, BROWN PROMISES MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE
June 3rd, 1992



DWYER TRIAL DATE SET FOR AUGUST 3RD
June 4th, 1992



ASHCROFT WINS FINAL NORTH DAKOTA PRIMARY
June 9th, 1992



RNC CHAIR RICHARD BOND ANNOUNCES THAT DWYER DELEGATES WILL BE UNPLEDGED – COULD OPEN FIELD FOR OTHER CANDIDATES
June 10th, 1992



CALIFORNIA GOVERNOR BROWN CALLS PRESS CONFERENCE FOR TOMORROW – EXPECTED TO WITHDRAW AND ENDORSE PRESIDENT
June 11th, 1992



BREAKING – BROWN ENDS BID FOR DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL NOMINATION, BUT WILL ATTEMPT TO GAIN BALLOT ACCESS FOR THIRD-PARTY BID
June 12th, 1992



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Old May 23rd, 2012, 12:35 PM
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Hopefully a scandal plagued GOP+too many years of Nixon and an unpopular Kennedy give Brown the election! Unlikely...but a fun twist. Throw in some scandals!
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Old May 23rd, 2012, 01:41 PM
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Looks like it's Kennedy/Clinton vs Ashcroft and whoever his running mate is gonna be for '92'.
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Old May 23rd, 2012, 03:35 PM
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I root for whomever the Libertarian Party nominated- this entire field, between Kennedy, Brown and Ashcroft, is bloody terrible. If there is a different GOP nominee, I'd also root for them.
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Old May 23rd, 2012, 04:19 PM
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Depending on how successful his transition to 3rd Party is, this could really mess stuff up, with Brown Democrats following him out of the party, and unsatisfied and disillusioned Republicans defecting to Brown too. Brown, after all, has a lot of weird economic views, especially in this era.
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Old May 23rd, 2012, 04:25 PM
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Do I smell a Ron Paul opportunity?
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Old May 23rd, 2012, 06:56 PM
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If Jerry Brown does run as a third party candidate and throws the election to Ashcroft, Democrats would never, ever forgive him and his political career, as a viable candidate, anyway, would end. Is Brown ready to stake his legacy on a long shot chance at the White House knowing the damage it could cause?

But I'm assuming Brown will be the Perot of this TL, but with a twist. Whereas Perot took equal amount of votes from Clinton & Bush in the original TL, Brown will certainly hurt Kennedy far more than Ashcroft here.
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Old May 23rd, 2012, 08:52 PM
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I'm hoping for a brokered convention- all of those open Dwyer delegates have to go somewhere.
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Old May 24th, 2012, 01:31 PM
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CAN ASHCROFT SECURE NOMINATION ON FIRST BALLOT? CAMPAIGN CONCERNED THAT A COMPROMISE CANDIDATE WOULD WIN ON SECOND BALLOT
June 14th, 1992



IN INTERVIEW, PRESIDENT IS RESPECTFUL TO BROWN’S THIRD-PARTY BID, BUT WARNS THAT IT MAY PUT REPUBLICANS BACK IN THE WHITE HOUSE
June 17th, 1992



BROWN SUPPORTERS AND CAMPAIGN CONFIDENT THAT BALLOT ACCESS CAN BE ACHIEVED IN TIME
June 22nd, 1992



CLINTON – “I HAVE OFFERED TO NOT BE PRESIDENT’S RUNNING-MATE IF HE CHOOSES TO GO ANOTHER DIRECTION.”
June 24th, 1992



RUMSFELD ANNOUNCES HE WILL PRESENT HIMSELF AS CANDIDATE AT REPUBLICAN CONVENTION
June 25th, 1992



BROWN ARRIVES AT WHITE HOUSE – IS HE MEETING WITH KENNEDY?
June 27th, 1992



BREAKING: BROWN LEAVES WHITE HOUSE – ANNOUNCES HE WAS OFFERED SPOT ON DEMOCRATIC TICKET, BUT TURNED IT DOWN
June 27th, 1992



KENNEDY CAMP FURIOUS AT BROWN’S COMMENTS – DENIES OFFERING VP SLOT, CLAIMS, “CLINTON IS OUR MAN”
June 27th, 1992



ASHCROFT “CONFIDENT” HE CAN SECURE THE REPUBLICAN NOMINATION ON THE FIRST BALLOT
June 29th, 1992



BROWN SLOWLY SECURING BALLOT ACCESS – THIRD-PARTY BID LOOKS TO BE MOVING AHEAD
July 1st, 1992



LATEST POLLS SHOW KENNEDY LOSING TO ASHCROFT FOR FIRST TIME – BROWN GARNERING NEARLY 15%
July 1st,1992



THIRD CANDIDATE FOR GOP? RUMOURS SWIRLING THAT SOMEONE ELSE WILL BE GETTING INTO THE RACE
July 3rd, 1992



IT’S GINGRICH – SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE SAYS HE WILL OFFER HIMSELF AS A CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT AT CONVENTION
July 6th, 1992



ASHCROFT AND RUMSFELD CAMPS SCRAMBLING – WHO DOES GINGRICH CANDIDACY HELP OR HURT?
July 7th, 1992



OPENING GAVEL AT REPUBLICAN CONVENTION – PROJECTIONS SUGGEST NO ONE WILL WIN NOMINATION ON FIRST BALLOT
July 13th, 1992


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