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Old March 11th, 2004, 01:14 PM
Melvin Loh Melvin Loh is offline
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Gold Warriors: America's Secret Recovery of Yamashita's Gold

Has anybody read this new book by Sterling and Peggy Seagrave yet ? It's all about the fortune plundered by the Japs from thruout their WWII empire and secretly stashed and buried in concealed locations thruout the Philippines (Op 'Golden Lily), then later about how the US govt managed to acquire the treasure and use this 'black gold' to further their own nefarious and dubious ends after the war, such as bribing Tokyo war crimes trial witnesses to falsify their testimonies in the trials of key right-wing Jap govt officials, to pay off members of Unit 731, and for the CIA to finance their covert ops in SE Asia from 1845 onwards. Puts a very different spin on the story of looted treasures from the Pacific War, in much the same war as books written in the 90s did re Nazi wartime looting and the collaboration of the Swiss banks in laundering these ill-gotten gains.
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Old March 11th, 2004, 03:43 PM
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A hopelessly blinkered and orthodox work. It ignores the role of the Illuminati, the Lizardmen, the Trilateral Commission, the Freemasons, and Bill Clinton.
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Old March 11th, 2004, 06:36 PM
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You are insufficiently paranoid

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Has anybody read this new book by Sterling and Peggy Seagrave yet ? It's all about the fortune plundered by the Japs from thruout their WWII empire and secretly stashed and buried in concealed locations thruout the Philippines (Op 'Golden Lily), then later about how the US govt managed to acquire the treasure and use this 'black gold' to further their own nefarious and dubious ends after the war, such as bribing Tokyo war crimes trial witnesses to falsify their testimonies in the trials of key right-wing Jap govt officials, to pay off members of Unit 731, and for the CIA to finance their covert ops in SE Asia from 1845 onwards. Puts a very different spin on the story of looted treasures from the Pacific War, in much the same war as books written in the 90s did re Nazi wartime looting and the collaboration of the Swiss banks in laundering these ill-gotten gains.
This whole Japanese gold thing is just a scam. As if the conservatives that took over after Roosevelt died would take all that looted Chinese gold and silver in exchange for letting off the war criminals. What really happened is that in 1980 the incoming Republican presidential administration sold off our gold reserves at the top of the market at 800$ a troy ounce in 1980 dollars.
Then they bought thirty year treasury bonds at 21% interest because they knew that they were going to hike interest rates and hold a recession to stop inflation. They made huge amounts of money in the bond market rally when the high interest rate bonds (that paid a high interest rate because everyone was expecting inflation to continue) quadrupled in value in those two years.
Meanwhile the increase in real interest rates (interest minus inflation) had crashed the stock market, bottoming out in 1982. They bought at the bottom and made even more money. Brilliant!
They ran those huge Reagan deficits because they knew that they had the money from selling off the gold reserves to pay for them, so when the Democrats claim that the Republicans ran up more deficits in 12 years than the rest of the history of the US, the Republicans were laughing at them!
Then after Greenspan rigged the market to crest at 2000, they sold out the stock market to the dumb foreigners during the run up, and now the US doesn't really have a balance of trade deficit because it's just our money coming back!
Problem is, we've pretty much run out of all the money from the scam. A balance of trade crisis is coming soon. But they had a good twenty year run out of the gold reserves, and it's going to be the Pentagon's problem when the gold isn't there to keep the spare parts supply going. It's tough to handle without being able to buy stuff overseas. Too bad!
And if you believe this, you are sufficiently paranoid. I make no guarantees as to the truth of what I've posted. It's just one more scenario. Not the most unlikely one because it does account for all motives and happenings. It could be worse than what occured, it could be better, for your values of worse and better.
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Old March 12th, 2004, 07:16 AM
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Conspiracies and Consequences

One of these days, one of us will post a wild conspiracy theory--and get it right. We'll never know until someone vanishes from the board, and the unfortuneate poster's life gets a LOT more complex in a hurry, depending onwho he guessed right about
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Old March 14th, 2004, 04:47 AM
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What makes you think they care?

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One of these days, one of us will post a wild conspiracy theory--and get it right. We'll never know until someone vanishes from the board, and the unfortuneate poster's life gets a LOT more complex in a hurry, depending onwho he guessed right about
More than that, what makes you think they mind? Look at it from the hypothetical CIA conspirator's point of view. No CIA conspirator was ever punished (jailed, shot, lost pension, whatever) for anything he did that was not prejudicial to the position of his boss or bosses.
So they did a lot of stuff because there was no comeback. On the other hand they never got bragging rights, either.
My posting is the only recognition they ever got or will get. It's something they can show their grandchildren when they explain where the family money came from. They'll say, 'See, this was the closest anybody came to guessing! Wasn't I clever?' Like their grandkids are going to care, either.
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Old March 14th, 2004, 06:32 AM
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A hopelessly blinkered and orthodox work. It ignores the role of the Illuminati, the Lizardmen, the Trilateral Commission, the Freemasons, and Bill Clinton.
Don't forget the Jews and the Mormons.
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