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Old April 14th, 2011, 06:07 AM
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WI: The Austrian Kingdom of Illyria Survives

This is something I've been thinking about.

Let's say for whatever reason the Austrian Kingdom of Illyria manages to survive and remains an equal part of Austria throughout
the 19th century, what would be the affects of it?

Now, to make it more interesting lets say that the Austrians agree to grant the Kingdom Lower Styria*, thus realizing the idea of a
United Slovenia, how would this affect history and, in the 20th century, assuming the Austro-Hungarian Empire disentigrates, what
would become of the Kingdom, would it remain part of a multi-national Austrian Federation, or declare itself independent?







*As a result of them being seen as the most loyal, or because they helped with something or the Austrian Emperor being a Slovenophile.
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Old April 14th, 2011, 08:57 AM
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Didn't the format of kingdoms, principalities etc get screwed over 1848 and the subsequent reformation in how the country was going to get governed thereafter? This would mean that this reformation thus only gets applied to Hungary and Transylvania, which would be possible

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Old April 15th, 2011, 07:36 AM
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Didn't the format of kingdoms, principalities etc get screwed over 1848 and the subsequent reformation in how the country was going to get governed thereafter? This would mean that this reformation thus only gets applied to Hungary and Transylvania, which would be possible

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Could be, I was thinking more Illyria either becomes a third Kingdom, either de jure or de facto.
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Old April 15th, 2011, 09:20 AM
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Could be, I was thinking more Illyria either becomes a third Kingdom, either de jure or de facto.
I would suspect Carinthia and Lower Styria to remain in their respective crowns (so Illyria and Austria) in such a case, basically acting like Burgenland in Hungary.

Also you'd need something to change 1848.
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Old April 15th, 2011, 12:38 PM
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Could be, I was thinking more Illyria either becomes a third Kingdom, either de jure or de facto.
A Triple Monarchy with the Slovenes? Oh, that might cause the Bohemians (and Croats, Slovaks, Transylvanian Romanians) to become stronger agitators for a proper federal system, if the crown's willing to divide control three ways rather than two. The Hungarians... I dunno. If Croats don't seem to agitate for Illyria, then they'll probably be alright with it.
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Old April 15th, 2011, 01:06 PM
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A Triple Monarchy with the Slovenes? Oh, that might cause the Bohemians (and Croats, Slovaks, Transylvanian Romanians) to become stronger agitators for a proper federal system, if the crown's willing to divide control three ways rather than two. The Hungarians... I dunno. If Croats don't seem to agitate for Illyria, then they'll probably be alright with it.
Or it might lead to an earlier and/or more messy dissentigration of the Empire.

One of the big problems with Federalism is the Hungarians were so opposed to it since they'd lose land.
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