Viet Neutral

I've been hearing whispers of an idea that was being thrown around before and after the coup against Diem, mainly by de Gaulle, involving the neutralization of either all of Vietnam or just the South (the details are unclear), kind of like Sihanouk's Cambodia. Does anyone know anything about it? How feasible was it?
 
The ideal solution.
Maybe Diem could succeed,but JFK reject the De Gaulle (wise) proposal.
With Nixon in White House who knows?
 
Don't think it could work as nobody could get the Vietmin to retreat from the South.

It was the Viet Cong. They were to be included in a unity government in South Vietnam. That's if the idea was to neutralize just South Vietnam, which has yet to be cleared up for me.
 
He resigned as leader of the provisional government before the First Indochina War began, not that it does anything to answer a question about events 20 years later.

Neutralization as killing them all or as a neutral country, then? And De Gaulle's policies and those of his followers tended effect what did and would go on.
 
The French wanted to atom bomb them. People have a "if we cant have it no one can" approach at times to colonies. Think of the Germans destroying the French factories and mines when they heard a peace treaty was going to be signed to end WWI.
 
It was the Viet Cong. They were to be included in a unity government in South Vietnam. That's if the idea was to neutralize just South Vietnam, which has yet to be cleared up for me.

But why should the Mặt trận Dân tộc Giải phóng miền Nam Việt Nam accept a coalition when they could have it all?

They were on the way of taking over most of the countryside and wouldn't/didn't stop even if they/when they signed aggreements.
 
But why should the Mặt trận Dân tộc Giải phóng miền Nam Việt Nam accept a coalition when they could have it all?

They were on the way of taking over most of the countryside and wouldn't/didn't stop even if they/when they signed aggreements.

Well this is basically the agreement they began negotiating in Paris in '68. Anyway, this would still result in an increase in their power.
 
But why should the Mặt trận Dân tộc Giải phóng miền Nam Việt Nam accept a coalition when they could have it all?

They were on the way of taking over most of the countryside and wouldn't/didn't stop even if they/when they signed aggreements.

At the end it still lasted 12 years till they could take over the country. And it wasn´t really them, but the North Vietnam Army because the old Viet Cong had been bleeded white during the war. We are talking about 1963 here. Even without a american intervention Victory was still far away.
 

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The French wanted to atom bomb them. People have a "if we cant have it no one can" approach at times to colonies.

*hands Super Parker Brothers an empty box*

Here: I found Context. It appears you've taken something out of it.



Operation Vulture doesn't represent what the French command wanted to do on a regular basis. They weren't smoking cigarettes and wearing horn rimmed glasses then flinging wine in the air and screaming "nuke zee basterds!".

Operation Vulture wasn't even THOUGHT of until Dien Bien Phu, which (let's be honest here) is probably the darkest point in the history of French arms. There will probably never be a point when a French force is in a worse position.

Street Without Joy by Bernard Fall shows that their normal operations were conducted by combined arms teams using armour and infantry to achieve surprise through speed. They had to do that because the level of Vietnamese involvement in their operations was such that they had pretty much no operational secrecy (though they did have better opsec than the Americans did later) and would have to rely on blitz.
 
At the end it still lasted 12 years till they could take over the country. And it wasn´t really them, but the North Vietnam Army because the old Viet Cong had been bleeded white during the war. We are talking about 1963 here. Even without a american intervention Victory was still far away.

We are talking about 1963,and if i don't remember bad, August-September 1963.
 
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