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Old May 1st, 2011, 11:45 AM
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James Lewis in Elmet was a great candidate, but he lost IOTL as well so I suppose there was no hope for him here. Ditto Jamie Hanley. Glad Fabian held on, will we see a breakdown? There was £250,000 of Ashcroft's money in the seat IOTL which meant the losing Tory was apparently very, very unpopular. I'd be interested to see how Hamilton did in Northeast, he was 5000 votes clear IOTL. Nice bloke. Shame about the expenses.

And that Birmingham story is entertaining to say the least - something, perhaps, from personal experience?
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Old May 1st, 2011, 11:58 AM
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And I hereby declare the aforesaid Liam Domenic Mekon Byrne has been elected as the member for the Hodge Hill division of Birmingham.
Interesting slip from the returning officer there. I wonder if Byrne's written his 'all the money's gone' letter in this TL?
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Old May 1st, 2011, 12:13 PM
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James Lewis in Elmet was a great candidate, but he lost IOTL as well so I suppose there was no hope for him here. Ditto Jamie Hanley. Glad Fabian held on, will we see a breakdown? There was £250,000 of Ashcroft's money in the seat IOTL which meant the losing Tory was apparently very, very unpopular. I'd be interested to see how Hamilton did in Northeast, he was 5000 votes clear IOTL. Nice bloke. Shame about the expenses.

And that Birmingham story is entertaining to say the least - something, perhaps, from personal experience?
Adrian got pulled from BBC radio for his constant praise of various Labour worthies and Cllr Yacoob. Some of his local press articles were surreal. He's back on the BBC now, gawd help us, but is being kept well away from politics. And yes, the LibDem candidate for Hodge did turn up to the count, saw the way it was going and pissed off again.

Leeds North East will be in the catch up batch, although the next update is hooooge and has the Morley and Outwood OB.
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Old May 1st, 2011, 12:41 PM
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Looking forward to this big next update! Here's a map for ten past five.

EDIT. shitshitshit. I saved it as a JPEG. Damn my idiocy!!!
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Old May 1st, 2011, 01:02 PM
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So it seems likely that my MP OTL will still have his seat ITTL, nice. Looking forward to what this thread still has to offer.

NB: Am from Argyll & Bute Constituency.
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Old May 1st, 2011, 04:00 PM
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Excellent..

More excellent updates, Iain, and a reminder that my first "STV Referendum" update needs to be redrafted tomorrow for posting...

Very little still from London and I can't help but think that will be a major factor in the final outcome.
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Old May 1st, 2011, 08:52 PM
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very interesting timeline

still waiting for my home constituency of winchester to see how bad the post oaten hammering was
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Old May 1st, 2011, 09:03 PM
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very interesting timeline

still waiting for my home constituency of winchester to see how bad the post oaten hammering was
Just after 6am for Winchester, one of the top five turnouts, over 86%.
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Old May 1st, 2011, 09:04 PM
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More excellent updates, Iain, and a reminder that my first "STV Referendum" update needs to be redrafted tomorrow for posting...

Very little still from London and I can't help but think that will be a major factor in the final outcome.
There's some very slow results coming from London and that's without the recounts. It's probably Labour's second best area, but that's not saying much.
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Old May 1st, 2011, 10:36 PM
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Lancashire, Barrow and Furness

Electorate: 68,943
Turnout: 75.38%

Labour Hold

John Woodcock  Lab  19,556  37.6%  - 7.6
John Gough     Con  16,991  32.7%  + 0.1
Barry Rabone   LDm   9,289  17.9%  + 0.0
Mike Ashburner BNP   3,192   6.1%  + 6.1
John Smith     UKIP  1,937   3.7%  + 1.7
Chris Loynes   Grn     760   1.5%  + 1.5
Brian Greaves  Ind     243   0.5%  + 0.5

Majority: 2,565 (4.9%)
Swing: Conservative to Labour -3.8%
EM: Wow, now that is an unusual result. LibDems stand still, small Labour loss despite the standing down of the sitting MP. Barrow will be one of the best English results of the night for Labour. John Woodcock is 32, previously the assistant to the MP here and lately a special advisor to Gordon Brown.
Thank you! Really pleased to see this result - it's about what I would have expected. Working in the area last year, and coming from there originally, the anti-Lib Dem opinion was pretty strong, especially as Clegg Mania took hold. With the constituency relying heavily on shipbuilding and specifically, the Trident replacement, Clegg was not flavour of the month, at least in the urban half the the constituency. The rural Lake District half is a different matter.
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Old May 1st, 2011, 10:59 PM
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Redone the map for 5.10. Enjoy!
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Old May 1st, 2011, 11:07 PM
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Looking at that map makes me weep. Oh, my sweet, sweet NHS... what shall become of you now?
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Old May 2nd, 2011, 04:38 AM
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It's interesting to see that belt of Labour seats in northen England being broken gradually as the reports continue to be posted.
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Old May 2nd, 2011, 06:15 AM
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Interesting slip from the returning officer there. I wonder if Byrne's written his 'all the money's gone' letter in this TL?
To misquote Ernie Bevin

"I 'ates him, I tries not to, but I 'ates him"

Who knows who will find the letter and under what conditions.
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Old May 2nd, 2011, 08:55 AM
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Splendid map as ever.

I'm at work today, so I can't check fully.

I've certainly declared to the two Dunbartonshire seats as Lab and LD Holds. Ditto Aberdeen North, what looks like East Renfrewshire and what's either Glasgow North East or some Central Belt seat like Pugh, Pugh, Barney, McGrew, Cuthbert, Dibble and Grubb (I hate the Scottish Boundary Commission). Ditto Newcastle Central (LD Gain), Clwyd West (Con Hold) and Birmingham Yardley (LD Hold)..

I'll have to check Charlies, but if it hasn't been declared, we'll just put it down to the returning officer being pissed.
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Old May 2nd, 2011, 12:21 PM
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When this is complete, I'm going to reread from start to finish with popcorn as if it's happening in real time.
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Old May 2nd, 2011, 05:29 PM
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I've certainly declared to the two Dunbartonshire seats as Lab and LD Holds.
East, yes, but not West.

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Ditto Aberdeen North
Again, South but not North.

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what looks like East Renfrewshire and what's either Glasgow North East or some Central Belt seat like Pugh, Pugh, Barney, McGrew, Cuthbert, Dibble and Grubb (I hate the Scottish Boundary Commission).
A "Glasgow South East" has been declared but not North East or South West.

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Ditto Newcastle Central (LD Gain),
The map has Newcastle North as a Lab hold whereas it's a Lib Dem gain. The only Tyne & Wear result outstanding is Gateshead.

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Clwyd West (Con Hold) and Birmingham Yardley (LD Hold).
Yardley has been declared but not Clwyd.

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I'll have to check Charlies, but if it hasn't been declared, we'll just put it down to the returning officer being pissed.
Ross, etc. hasn't been announced yet.

One other mistake with the map is that Tewkesbury is down as a 2005 Labour seat rather than Tory.
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Old May 2nd, 2011, 07:14 PM
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Well, I don't think the BBC actually manage all the seats on election night.

Ross, Skye and Lochaber - will declare in two updates time, my bad.

Clwyd West, should have declared about 4:20, Con Hold - maj 5,255 over LDm

West Dunbartonshire should have declared about 4:40 - Lab Hold, Maj 14,566 over the Nits

All Glasgow seats have now declared, North is an LDm Gain, all others are Lab Hold with fairly large majorities either over the Nits or the LibDems.

Gateshead has declared as a Lab Hold, maj 1,905 over LDm!

Aberdeen North has declared Lab Hold, 3,600 maj over the Nits with the LibDems in hot pursuit.
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Old May 2nd, 2011, 07:20 PM
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So it appears that there are still areas where Labour is holding up. Interesting. It will make for a very interesting post-election scenario. Though Gordon Brown is definately out of No10.

Still staying tuned.
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Old May 2nd, 2011, 07:42 PM
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Well, I don't think the BBC actually manage all the seats on election night.

Ross, Skye and Lochaber - will declare in two updates time, my bad.

Clwyd West, should have declared about 4:20, Con Hold - maj 5,255 over LDm

West Dunbartonshire should have declared about 4:40 - Lab Hold, Maj 14,566 over the Nits

All Glasgow seats have now declared, North is an LDm Gain, all others are Lab Hold with fairly large majorities either over the Nits or the LibDems.

Gateshead has declared as a Lab Hold, maj 1,905 over LDm!

Aberdeen North has declared Lab Hold, 3,600 maj over the Nits with the LibDems in hot pursuit.
Sorry, are these areas I've missed from the map? Or are you recapping?
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