Was Medieval Poland A Democracy

[Norbert Newman]

Of course it was, outside of revisonist German and Russian historians.

[Mongo]

What an effing joke. NO it was not a modern democracy -- how many voting rights did the average peasant have? -- and NO I am not a revisionist.

Too bad the correct answer is not listed on this so-called "poll".

[I Blame Communism]

Crossing the bridge, the young goat became aware of an ominous wet snuffling noise that put a chill in his very bones...

Democracy for nobles is as democratic as South Africa's democracy for white people and pointing this out has nothing to do with being an evil Germano-Russian conspirator: I say the same thing to whiggish claims about my own country's supposed "heritage of constitutional liberty".

[Torn but Flying]

This guy's a troll judging by this and his other posts.

[Gosing]

Originally Posted by I Blame Communism

Crossing the bridge, the young goat became aware of an ominous wet snuffling noise that put a chill in his very bones...

Democracy for nobles is as democratic as South Africa's democracy for white people and pointing this out has nothing to do with being an evil Germano-Russian conspirator: I say the same thing to whiggish claims about my own country's supposed "heritage of constitutional liberty".

Well...America had democracy...for males...white males...sixty years before the British...and yet still has under 50% turnouts in someplaces...

Damn you, IBC.

[Prem_Rack]

Unsuccessful troll is unsuccessful.
FFS, it wasn't even Medieval Poland that was Noble's Democracy. Medieval Poland was pretty much run-of-the-mill feudal fringe country.

[Gosing]

Originally Posted by Prem_Rack

Unsuccessful troll is unsuccessful.
FFS, it wasn't even Medieval Poland that was Noble's Democracy. Medieval Poland was pretty much run-of-the-mill feudal fringe country.

Yeah. Wasn't the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth created in the 1500s?

[Orko]

AH.com is not a place for jokes of this kind. It is a dark, cold and cruel place of misery and actual discussions. Mods, if you see this, please close this thread.

[I Blame Communism]

Originally Posted by Gosing

Well...America had democracy...for males...white males...sixty years before the British...and yet still has under 50% turnouts in someplaces...

I regard Britain as having become the imperfect-but-what-were-you-expecting democracy we are today in 1928, and having been close for a while before. To be honest I have an embarrassing ignorance of American history and couldn't tell you when women got the vote in different states, but I wouldn't call America a democracy before civil rights.

The whole willy-waving contest about who had democracy first annoys me anyway.

Originally Posted by Gosing

Damn you, IBC.

Phwahahahahaha!

Originally Posted by Prem_Rack

Unsuccessful troll is unsuccessful.
FFS, it wasn't even Medieval Poland that was Noble's Democracy. Medieval Poland was pretty much run-of-the-mill feudal fringe country.

He makes a good point does that man.

[Sicarius]

How could medieval Poland be a modern anything?

[I Blame Communism]

Originally Posted by Sicarius

How could medieval Poland be a modern anything?

I think we're going to get along.

[Bee]

The elective monarchy came after the middle ages.

[dreadnought jenkins]

Originally Posted by Norbert Newman

Of course it was, outside of revisonist German and Russian historians.

Fail.

And what the hell is a German revionisist anyway? A German Snidely Whiplash?

[Beedok]

Originally Posted by Norbert Newman

Of course it was, outside of revisonist German and Russian historians.

Why did he say Russian and German but only give the option for German? How is a Russian revisionist supposed to vote?!?

[SavoyTruffle]

But what about the Austrian revisionists? They were one of the black eagles that feasted on the white eagle too, right?

[imperialaquila]

Originally Posted by Sicarius

How could medieval Poland be a modern anything?

Starvation and famine are modern enough. See most of sub-Saharan Africa.

[Polish Eagle]

Originally Posted by Norbert Newman

Of course it was, outside of revisonist German and Russian historians.

No, and I'm not a German. Obviously.

Medieval Poland was not a democracy of any sort. It was a fragmented, entirely feudal entity dealing with Mongol invasions and internal fighting after the Piast rule of all Poland fell apart into warring factions. After that...it was a united entirely feudal nation. And it would be that way until the late 16th century when it became an elective-monarchy-ruling-a-herd-of-cats-called-szlachta-who-served-as-a-plutocracy. It would remain this way until May 3, 1791, when it became a very limited democracy modeled after post-revolutionary America. But 1791 is hardly "medieval."

Reported, for trolling.

[Beedok]

Originally Posted by Polish Eagle

Reported, for trolling.

The guy's been banned for a while.

[Polish Eagle]

Originally Posted by Beedok

The guy's been banned for a while.

...Bloody hell. I read this thread a few hours ago, at a computer where I couldn't log in. Then I dove right into this without reading that he got banned.

[Constantinos]

Of course it is a democracy. Really a country where king had absoulute power. Jeez not until the PLC was Poland a democracy. However I agree with Newman let's throw away facts, so I say Poland is always a democracy so I vote yes Really I feel srry for the huge gap beetween the no and es polls.