U Kahlay Katun: The Count of Years, A Maya TL
AKA The Land of Turkey and Deer v2. Well, it's been a long and arduous experience I must say. Despite being my sole reason for coming here, it took me at least a year to even start the only Maya TL here, and then I had a year-long hiatus during the making of it, twice. And what finally came out turned out to be a mangled, erratic mess, probably due to my erratic method of thinking and typing. Suffice to say it wasn't up to snuff. A lot of incorrect stuff, outdated stuff, not very descriptive, not very Maya, etc. So I promised a version 2, and I called the one I typed up a "rough draft", which it quite frankly should've been. And then my computer died for two months, then I had to read up on several books and fix the damn thing and restore all my stuff, and then I went on vacation. So I've been putting it off for a while, but the procrastination ends here. Or at least it temporarily ends here, who knows what the future may bring.
Anyhow, it's on to the TL itself. The last one had several problems many of which will change. In fact almost everything will change. The PoD will probably no longer be so far back, but I will still go on about a lot of stuff before the PoD to give you a clearer idea of Maya politics and as others suggested let you acclimate to the different names of TTL, as I will be exclusively using the ancient, true names of cities and places as long as they are known, and I might make up some as well if they are unknown. I'm so naughty. Basically, this TL will spend much more time in the Classic era long before the Spanish come. So if you want to skip ahead and just read about that part, you can either wait patiently or read the original version of this, Land of Turkey and Deer, but be aware that I will no longer be updating it.
Also, I must give you guys some sources that can help you get a clearer idea of this stuff. I must also thank this webpage, for the graphic calendar converter I shall make great use of. Why must I use it, you ask? Well why not? Also, here are some useful maps for you guys: a trade map, a neat map, and a detailed map. Can't get enough maps. I would post a political map of the area if I could find one on the web, but I can't right now. Also, for things I am unable to find out in any book or webpage, I will be using some material from the novel In the Courts of the Sun. After all, I got my username from that book. If you guys want, I may also make a detailed list of Mayan cities TTL that has all of their modern OTL names and whatnot. Oh, and so you don't get confused, I will be using mostly the older orthography of the Mayan languages, at least for established place names. Basically, everything is pronounced as it would be in Spanish, with a few exceptions. 'X' represents a 'sh' sound, a double vowel (such as 'aa' or 'oo') simply represents an elongated vowel, and a lone apostrophe is a glottal stop.
Also, forgot to mention, the Maya calendar may play some importance here, so you might want to read these notes of mine. I will use multiple Mayan calendrical terms for it was of great importance to them, and ultimately the TL. Basically, since they counted by 20's, and not by tens like us, they had a unit of time called a katun, which was twenty tuns, a tun being 365 suns, or days. A baktun was 20 katuns. The long count calendar is organized by baktun, then katun, then tun, then uinal (20 days, a Maya month), then the day itself. For example, February 28th 2011 is 12.19.18.2.18. That is, it's the 12th Baktun, 19th Katun of the baktun, 18th tun of the katun, 2nd month of the year, and 18th day of the second month. If you know Maya units, you can easily tell that in two days it'll be a new month. December 21st of next year is the start of the 13th baktun, so yay. Also, there are numerous references to "katun preophecies". The Maya believed time to be cyclical, and what happened in one cycle would repeat itself, so rather than being actual prophecies these were more like forecasts.
Whew, longest TL intro ever, dude. Finally, here comes the part where I man up, chug down half a box of Cokes, and type like the Devil himself. Enjoy the show.
AKA The Land of Turkey and Deer v2. Well, it's been a long and arduous experience I must say. Despite being my sole reason for coming here, it took me at least a year to even start the only Maya TL here, and then I had a year-long hiatus during the making of it, twice. And what finally came out turned out to be a mangled, erratic mess, probably due to my erratic method of thinking and typing. Suffice to say it wasn't up to snuff. A lot of incorrect stuff, outdated stuff, not very descriptive, not very Maya, etc. So I promised a version 2, and I called the one I typed up a "rough draft", which it quite frankly should've been. And then my computer died for two months, then I had to read up on several books and fix the damn thing and restore all my stuff, and then I went on vacation. So I've been putting it off for a while, but the procrastination ends here. Or at least it temporarily ends here, who knows what the future may bring.
Anyhow, it's on to the TL itself. The last one had several problems many of which will change. In fact almost everything will change. The PoD will probably no longer be so far back, but I will still go on about a lot of stuff before the PoD to give you a clearer idea of Maya politics and as others suggested let you acclimate to the different names of TTL, as I will be exclusively using the ancient, true names of cities and places as long as they are known, and I might make up some as well if they are unknown. I'm so naughty. Basically, this TL will spend much more time in the Classic era long before the Spanish come. So if you want to skip ahead and just read about that part, you can either wait patiently or read the original version of this, Land of Turkey and Deer, but be aware that I will no longer be updating it.
Also, I must give you guys some sources that can help you get a clearer idea of this stuff. I must also thank this webpage, for the graphic calendar converter I shall make great use of. Why must I use it, you ask? Well why not? Also, here are some useful maps for you guys: a trade map, a neat map, and a detailed map. Can't get enough maps. I would post a political map of the area if I could find one on the web, but I can't right now. Also, for things I am unable to find out in any book or webpage, I will be using some material from the novel In the Courts of the Sun. After all, I got my username from that book. If you guys want, I may also make a detailed list of Mayan cities TTL that has all of their modern OTL names and whatnot. Oh, and so you don't get confused, I will be using mostly the older orthography of the Mayan languages, at least for established place names. Basically, everything is pronounced as it would be in Spanish, with a few exceptions. 'X' represents a 'sh' sound, a double vowel (such as 'aa' or 'oo') simply represents an elongated vowel, and a lone apostrophe is a glottal stop.
Also, forgot to mention, the Maya calendar may play some importance here, so you might want to read these notes of mine. I will use multiple Mayan calendrical terms for it was of great importance to them, and ultimately the TL. Basically, since they counted by 20's, and not by tens like us, they had a unit of time called a katun, which was twenty tuns, a tun being 365 suns, or days. A baktun was 20 katuns. The long count calendar is organized by baktun, then katun, then tun, then uinal (20 days, a Maya month), then the day itself. For example, February 28th 2011 is 12.19.18.2.18. That is, it's the 12th Baktun, 19th Katun of the baktun, 18th tun of the katun, 2nd month of the year, and 18th day of the second month. If you know Maya units, you can easily tell that in two days it'll be a new month. December 21st of next year is the start of the 13th baktun, so yay. Also, there are numerous references to "katun preophecies". The Maya believed time to be cyclical, and what happened in one cycle would repeat itself, so rather than being actual prophecies these were more like forecasts.
Whew, longest TL intro ever, dude. Finally, here comes the part where I man up, chug down half a box of Cokes, and type like the Devil himself. Enjoy the show.
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