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Jake Featherston looks like Joseph Goebbels and/or Sean Penn - I thought everyone knew that!
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Old May 19th, 2011, 08:55 PM
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Still from the 2004 movie Freedom. In this scene, Featherston (Eugene Matthis) prepares to flee Richmond.
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Old May 19th, 2011, 09:00 PM
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Old May 19th, 2011, 09:07 PM
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Ferdinand Koenig (James Gandolfini) takes one last look at Richmond before fleeing in this scene from Freedom.
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Old May 19th, 2011, 09:20 PM
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Famous football star Babe Ruth, the quarterback of the Brooklyn Dive Bombers campaigning with future president Al Smith in 1936. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...e_Ruth_Gov.jpg
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Old May 19th, 2011, 09:26 PM
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Group Leader Hiram McCullough (Thomas Thyme) informs Secretary of State Bush (Henry French) of Featherston's decision to abandon Richmond.

From 2004 film Freedom.
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Old May 24th, 2011, 03:35 AM
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Featherston stops to exhort shell-shocked defenders to continue the fight for Richmond even as he heads to a car that will take him out of the doomed city.

From 2004 film Freedom.

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Old May 24th, 2011, 03:36 AM
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2010 is very significant. To me at least. It's the year I graduated.
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Old May 24th, 2011, 03:43 AM
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Featherston stops to exhort shell-shocked defenders to continue the fight for Richmond even as he heads to board a plane that will take him out of the doomed city.

From 2004 film Freedom.
Featherston wouldn't have flown out of Richmond; he only took the plane when he did because they had reached the U.S. corridor through Georgia and Potter persuaded him that it would be easier than sneaking through the lines in civvies.
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Old May 24th, 2011, 03:45 AM
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Featherston wouldn't have flown out of Richmond; he only took the plane when he did because they had reached the U.S. corridor through Georgia and Potter persuaded him that it would be easier than sneaking through the lines in civvies.
Technically, anything not written by Turtledove is open to interpretation. He could have flown out personally on a small plane while the others caught up later.
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Featherston wouldn't have flown out of Richmond; he only took the plane when he did because they had reached the U.S. corridor through Georgia and Potter persuaded him that it would be easier than sneaking through the lines in civvies.
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Technically, anything not written by Turtledove is open to interpretation. He could have flown out personally on a small plane while the others caught up later.
With some degree of plausibility and consistency, yes.

I'm not sure why Featherston would risk flying 23 miles from Richmond to Petersburg, with the airport almost halfway between the two sites, when he usually traveled through Virginia in an ambulance.
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With some degree of plausibility and consistency, yes.

I'm not sure why Featherston would risk flying 23 miles from Richmond to Petersburg, with the airport almost halfway between the two sites, when he usually traveled through Virginia in an ambulance.
because he went up to the front line and it's hard to land an airplane on the front line? And an airplane is faster than an ambulance, which pays off when you are trying to get far away from somewhere very quickly.
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because he went up to the front line and it's hard to land an airplane on the front line?
Are you asking me or are you telling me?

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And an airplane is faster than an ambulance, which pays off when you are trying to get far away from somewhere very quickly.
It also gets noticed faster than an ambulance, which is what would have happened had Featherston, who is not a stupid man, stupidly flown right over an area filled up the ass with U.S. fighters.
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Old May 24th, 2011, 04:56 AM
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It also gets noticed faster than an ambulance, which is what would have happened had Featherston, who is not a stupid man, stupidly flown right over an area filled up the ass with U.S. fighters.
I am suggesting it as a possibility.

Fighters that were focused on taking Richmond. And having fighters in the air =/= no possibility of escape by plane.
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I am suggesting it as a possibility.

Fighters that were focused on taking Richmond. And having fighters in the air =/= no possibility of escape by plane.
A very fair point. I won't even mention how insanely demented it is for the president to move toward the front line and take off right in the middle of the battlefield because, hey, airplanes are faster than vans.

And having a very slim chance of making it to Petersburg (and do what, land on on the "front line" there?) by airplane != the safest, smartest choice for someone obsessed with his personal safety as Featherston was.
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Featherson in those pics looks like a Nazi (the cap and the uniform look very Naziish"
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A very fair point. I won't even mention how insanely demented it is for the president to move toward the front line and take off right in the middle of the battlefield because, hey, airplanes are faster than vans.

And having a very slim chance of making it to Petersburg (and do what, land on on the "front line" there?) by airplane != the safest, smartest choice for someone obsessed with his personal safety as Featherston was.
Molotov flew by airplane in the Worldwar series didn't he? And that was an even more suicidal choice.
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Molotov flew by airplane in the Worldwar series didn't he? And that was an even more suicidal choice.
Molotov also wasn't the embodiment of his country whose death would effectively mean surrender, and Berchtesgaden is a lot farther away from Moscow than Petersburg is from Richmond. And if I recall correctly the things they had to worry about most were the cold temperatures and not crashing before refueling.

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