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Questions, Comments?
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I'll try to put up the first few posts of the Robinson Administration sometime this week or weekend.
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Chapter Five Scrappy Joe The Robinson Administration Secretary of State ![]() Woodrow Wilson Quote:
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There'll be more, but this is what I have so far. And yes, I did copy a lot from the Wilson administration.
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So far, Wilson's the only cabinet member I recognize.
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All the other guys were at one point in the RL Wilson cabinet, though I switched around Palmer and Payne. Baker was Secretary of War between 1916 and 1921 (I think), Palmer was AG 1919-1921, and Payne I think was Treasury Secretary 1920-1921. I really wasn't sure who or what to put into the cabinet, so ideas are welcome.
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The Robinson Administration Part two
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Nice idea with Joseph Kennedy and Henry Wallace senior in the cabinet.
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I had Johnson as one of my presidents once as well in an old TL.
I hope you make good use of him.
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Working on a timeline. Will post link here when more ideas are formed.
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You mean Hiram Johnson? I'm not sure what'll happen to him. He may get the nomination in the future.
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Looks like Robinson will the one of the last (if the last) progressive POTUS from the Democratic Party.
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I'm a big fan of this time line but I do have one question. I am curious about the choice of Wilson at Secretary of State. With the loss in 1912 he remained the governor of NJ, presumably without foreign affairs experience. Indeed in OTL he was quoted as saying, "it would be the irony of fate if my administration had to deal chiefly with foreign affairs." Did I miss a change to his foreign affairs experience somewhere?
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The First Term of President Joseph T Robinson Quote:
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Coolidge: Well, something had to be done to stop Robinson. Ford: I've done my best representing business interests. However, business interest aren't what is going to sway the public against Robinson. Harding: In the Senate, Republicans are in a disarray. We've been unable to string together a coalition to at least halt his plans. The Republicans are practically dead and it seems pointless to bother operating inside their limits. Ford: You know what? I think that Robinson is going to make some grave error that will cost him the Catholics. Without the Catholics, their North-East is gone. Harding: With Smith on the ticket? Hah! Ford: Seriously. I've talked with his Navy Secretary, Joe Kennedy. He's got some serious disagreements with the President and Smith isn't fully on board. That infrastructure bill isn't helping Robinson with Catholic Democrats either after hearing about the incredible amount going to just the South. Coolidge: What can we do? Harding: We need to form a coalition and reach across the aisle to Catholic Democrats. Ford: Even Southern Democrats! Not all of them are Progressives like Robinson. Some are incredibly angry with things he's done. Harding: We might not get the Southern Conservatives on our side with Civil Rights, however we can build some bridges. Quote:
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I added the 1916 and 1920 Republican Primaries to the previous posts. Some things on the maps, such as Henry Ford and Charles Evan Hughes being involved, are from lack of creativity so be lenient. The place where I'm getting the data from, this place ,didn't have the 1920 Democratic Primaries. I might put up the 1912 primary results in the first post just as a frame of reference.
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Bump.
Hopefully an update will be forthcoming today.
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August 3rd, 1922: a conversation between Vice-President Al Smith, Postmaster General James Farley, and Navy Secretary Joe Kennedy...
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A bit too much foreshadowing, perhaps.
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President Joseph T Robinson August 6th, 1872-March 15th, 1922 ![]() Alfred Emmanuel Smith The 30th President of the United States of America And the 1st Roman Catholic President
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March 20th, 1923: In a conversation with his most trusted advisors, the President sits talking. The other three are Senator John "Fitz" Fitzgerald of Massachusetts who is a close Smith ally and was a candidate for the 1920 Democratic nomination. The other two are cabinet members: Navy Secretary Joe Kennedy and Postmaster General James Farley. Joe: Listen, Al. You might be in office, but as of now you're sitting on top of a mountain racked by earthquakes. There are a million different factions out there. There are the Southern Populists in the mold of old Scrappy Joe. There are the Southern Conservatives. There are the Northern Liberals. There are the Northern Conservatives. There are the Mid-Western Populists. There are the Mid-Western Conservatives. We need to stake out one group as our own and build bridges to the others! Fitz: We can easily control all Northern factions given our position now in Massachusetts and New York. I think we can bring in allies in Pennsylvania and New Jersey and Rhode Island is definite. However, as for the others, you have to situate yourself as the leader of the party. You're President. Al: I know! You don't think I know that? You don't think I know there's a war in the Democratic party? I was on the losing side for over two years! I know we're as good as dead in the South. First off, we contact Democrats in Western areas and we keep them loyal to the Presidency. In terms of the election next year, we keep their delegates voting Smith, not whoever the South will doubtlessly nominate as their candidate. Jim: Rumor has it that some random Populist down in Oklahoma will make a run. Governor Bill Murray is shouting up a storm from his Governor's mansion calling you a Papist. Al: Really, what Southerner isn't these days? Jim: I think you can be nominated in 1924. Assuming we pull this off. However, how're you going to get the needed votes in the general? In Dixie they'll only vote for you because you're a Democrat. You've got three guaranteed states up north. But what else? Progressives have nearly everything West of the Mississippi aside from four states: Arizona, New Mexico, Oklahoma, and Texas. Al: We'll worry about that when the time comes. Right now we need alliances then we proceed forward.
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