List alternate PMs or Presidents

[Joshua Ben Ari]

List of Israeli Prime Ministers (from my "A World Without" timeline)
1948 to present

1. David Ben-Gurion, 14 May 1948- 26 January 1954 (Mapai)
2. Moshe Sharett 26 January 1954- 3 November 1955 (Mapai)
(1) David Ben-Gurion, 3 November 1955- 26 June 1963 (Mapai)
3. Levi Eshkol, 26 June 1963- 26 February 1969 (Mapai/Alignment)
4. Yigal Allon, 26 February 1969- 17 March 1969 (Mapai/Alignment)
5. Golda Meir, 17 March 1969- 3 June 1974 (Alignment)
6. Yitzhak Rabin, 3 June 1974- 20 June 1977 (Alignment)
7. Elie Wiesel, 20 June 1977- 10 October 1983 (Likud)
8. Menachem Begin, 10 October 1983- 20 October 1986 (Likud)
9. Shimon Peres, 20 October 1986- 13 July 1992 (Labour)
(6) Yitzhak Rabin, 13 July 1992- 18 June 1996 (Labour)
10. Binyamin Netenyahu, 18 June 1996- 6 July 1999 (Likud)
11. Ehud Barak, 6 July 1999- 7 March 2001 (Labour)
(7). Elie Wiesel, 7 March 2001- 4 May 2006 (Likud)
12. Binyamin Ben-Eliezer, 4 May 2006 to present (Labour)

[The Oncoming Storm]

Here's a list of Prime Ministers, Leaders of the Opposition and Chancellors of the Exchequer for a post war Britain TL I'm researching;

PRIME MINISTER

Clement Atlee, July 1945-November 1947
Anthony Eden, November 1947-February 1957 [1]
Harold Macmillan, February 1957-October 1963 [1]
Rab Butler, October 1963-May 1966 [1]
Ian MacLeod, May 1966-June 1969
Harold Wilson, June 1969-April 1976 [1]
James Callaghan, April 1976-May 1979
Margaret Thatcher, May 1979-November 1990 [1]
Michael Heseltine, November 1990-May 1997
Tony Blair, May 1997-March 2006 [1]
Gordon Brown, March 2006-May 2010
William Hague, May 2010-

LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION

Anthony Eden, July 1945-November 1947*
Herbert Morrison, November 1947-October 1951 [1]
Aneurin Bevan, October 1951-March 1959 [1]
Hugh Gaitskell, March 1959-January 1963 [2]
George Brown, January 1963-June 1968 [1]
Harold Wilson, June 1968-June 1969*
Ian Macleod, June 1969-July 1970 [2]
Edward Heath, July 1970-February 1975 [1]
Margaret Thatcher, February 1975-May 1979*
Denis Healey, May 1979-February 1981 [1]
Michael Foot, February 1981-April 1981 (Acting)
Tony Benn, April 1981-June 1983 [3]
Michael Foot, June 1983-October 1983 (Acting)
Neil Kinnock, October 1983-October 1992 [1]
John Smith, October 1992-July 1994 [2]
Tony Blair, October 1994-May 1997*
Michael Portillo, June 1997-May 2001 [3]
Michael Howard, June 2001-June 2005 [1]
William Hague, June 2005-May 2010*
Harriet Harman, May 2010-October 2010 (Acting)
Ed Milliband, October 2010-

CHANCELLOR OF THE EXCHEQUER

Hugh Dalton, July 1945-November 1947
Oliver Stanley, November 1947-November 1950 [2]
Rab Butler, November 1950-February 1957
Peter Thorneycroft, November 1957-October 1963 [1]
Ian MacLeod, October 1963-May 1966
Enoch Powell, May 1966-November 1967 [1]
Anthony Barber, November 1967-June 1969
Roy Jenkins, June 1969-April 1976
Denis Healey, April 1976-May 1979
Geoffrey Howe, May 1979-June 1983
Nigel Lawson, June 1983-October 1990 [1]
John Major, November 1990-May 1997
Robin Cook, May 1997-March 2003 [1]
Jack Straw, March 2003-March 2006
Alistair Darling, March 2006-June 2009 [1]
Ed Balls, June 2009-May 2010
George Osborne May 2010-

* Became PM following election
[1] Resigned
[2] Died
[3] Lost seat in General Election

[Joshua Ben Ari]

That's an incredible list, Oncoming Storm. How long did that take you to research for that?

Also, I'm noticing that Churchill doesn't have his second term as Prime Minister.

[John Fredrick Parker]

I've actually got plans for this list

UK Prime Ministers
Edward Heath (1970-74) (C)
Harold Wilson (1974-76) (L)
Michael Foot (1976-79) (L)
Edward Heath (1979-89) (C)
Michael Heseltine (1989-92) (C)
David Owen (1992-2001) (L)

[The Oncoming Storm]

I've been working on it for a while for my own interest, I've gathered a lot of information since I joined the forum just before the New Year. I'm still unsure as to whether or not to publish when I complete it as I would only do so if I was sure that it would stand up to scrutiny.

As for Churchill, I've always felt that his second term was simply a lap of honour that achieved little of real consequence, he also stayed on far too long as PM. I've always been intrigued by Eden as he was always felt to have had the potential to be a great PM but he was a sick man when his turn finally came and he will forever by tainted by Suez so I've wondered as to what he could have done had he had a better chance.

So the first POD is that Eden persuades Churchill to concentrate on the Potsdam Conference and take a back seat during the 1945 election campaign. Under Eden the Tories fight a far more effective campaign and Labour only manages to secure a wafer thin majority. As a result, Churchill accepts that Eden's time has come and stands down to concentrate on warning about the Soviet threat, with it's tiny majority the Atlee Government is beset with divisions and collapses in the autumn of 1947. Eden leads the Tories to a landslide victory and things then go in a very different direction than IOTL. The bit I'm unsure of is whether an Eden led Tories could have prevented Labour's landslide or if the mood in the country was so decisively in Labour's favour that Eden wouldn't have been able to make a difference.

[Joshua Ben Ari]

You should definitely go ahead and publish it! Hell, consider me to be the first subscriber.

That's an interesting POD. Interesting take on British politics, I'd always found the 1945 election to be particularly interesting. I'll definitely be looking forward to reading this.

[The Oncoming Storm]

Thanks for the kind words Joshua! It will take a while to complete it as I've a lot of other commitments ATM and if I start publishing it then I'll want to complete it and not leave it unfinished!

[Joshua Ben Ari]

You're welcome. I'll wait for something like this- it looks really interesting.

[Hunam]

Since I felt like looking over some of the stuff I've got down for UN-iverse, I'll post these three gems. No doubt I'll end up changing things before all is said and done:

US Presidents, 1933-2010
32. Franklin D. Roosevelt (D) March 4, 1933-March 4, 1941
33. Wendell Willkie* (R) March 4, 1941-December 1, 1944
34. Charles L. McNary (R) December 1, 1944 - March 4, 1949
35. Thomas E. Dewey (R) March 4, 1949 - March 4, 1953
36. Adali Stevenson** (D) March 4, 1953 - July 4, 1960
37. Hubert Humphrey* (D) July 4, 1960 - September 11, 1967
38. Edward Muskie (D) September 11, 1967 - March 4, 1969
39. Nelson Rockefeller (R) March 4, 1969 - March 4, 1977
40. Charlton Heston (R) March 4, 1977 - March 4, 1981
41. John Glenn (D) March 4, 1981 - March 4, 1989
42. James H. Meredith (R) March 4, 1989 - March 4, 1997
43. Wesley Clark (D) March 4, 1997 - March 4, 2005
44. Fred Thompson (R) March 4, 2005 - Present

* - Died of natural causes in office
** - Assassinated

USSR General Secretaries, 1922-2010
1. Josef Stalin (CPSU) April 3, 1922 - March 27, 1954
2. Nikita Krushchev (CPSU) August 1, 1954 - January 12, 1969
3. Leonid Brezhnev (CPSU) March 1, 1969 - July 17, 1975
4. Yuri Andropov (CPSU) July 17, 1975 - January 1, 1983
5. Victor Kulikov (CPSU) January 1, 1983 - January 1, 1985*
6. Mikhail Gorbachev (CPSU) January 1, 1985 - January 1, 1990
7. Pavel Grachev (CPSU) January 1, 1990 - January 1, 1995
8. Mikhail Gorbachev (LDP) January 1, 1995 - January 1, 2000
9. Boris Yeltsin (LDP) January 1, 2000 - June 6, 2003
10. Dimitri Putin^ (LDP) June 6, 2003 - Present

*- Beginning of the "constitutional Secretariat"
^- does not exist in OTL

UN Secretary Generals, 1945-2010
1. Gladwyn Jebb (UK) October 24, 1945 - February 1, 1946
2. Trygve Lie (Norway) February 1, 1946 - November 10, 1952
3. Eurioc Gaspar Dutra (Brazil) November 10, 1952 - January 1, 1955
4. Thomas E. Dewey (USA) January 1, 1955 - January 1, 1965
5. Soon May-ling (China) January 1, 1965 - January 1, 1970
6. Kwame Nkrumah* (Ghana) January 1, 1970 - April 15, 1972
7. Javier Perez de Cuellar (Peru) April 15, 1972 - January 1, 1980
8. Nelson Rockefeller (USA) January 1, 1980 - January 1, 1985
9. Amha Selassie (Ethiopia) January 1, 1985 - January 1, 1990
10. Junius Richard Jayewardene (Sri Lanka) January 1, 1990 - January 1, 1995
11. Kofi Annan (Ghana) January 1, 1995 - January 1, 2005
12. Phillip Nasr^ (USA) January 1, 2005 - Present

^ - Does not exist IOTL
* - Died of natural causes in office
Security Council Permanent Member
Other Nation

[Thande]

British Prime Ministers post-WW2

Clement Attlee (1945-1951)*
Winston Churchill (1951-1955)**
Anthony Eden (1955-1957)**
Harold Macmillan (1957-1963)**
Alec Douglas-Home (1963-1964)*
Harold Wilson (1964-1970)*
Ted Heath (1970-1974)*
Harold Wilson (1974-1976)**
Jim Callaghan (1976-1981)**
Denis Healey (1981-1983)*
Jim Prior (1983-1991)*
David Owen (1991-2000)**

* = defeated in election, ** = resigned or lost party leadership recall vote

[historybuff]

That UN-Iverse thing sounds pretty interesting, I'll wait to see if it gets turned into a TL.

[Joshua Ben Ari]

List of Presidents of the United States of America (from "A World Without")

William McKinley (1897-1901)
Theodore Roosevelt (1901-1909)
William Howard Taft (1909-1913)
Woodrow Wilson (1913-1921)
Alexander Mitchell Palmer (1921-1929) [1]
Robert Latham Owen (1929-1932)
William Gibbs McAdoo (1932-1940)
Walter Franklin George (1940-1948)
Robert Alphonso Taft (1948-1956) [2]
Francis Eugene Walter (1956-1964)
George Smathers (1964-1972)
Richard Joseph Daley (1972-1976)
Richard Milhous Nixon (1976-1980)[3]
Ronald Wilson Reagan (1980-1988)
Richard Milhous Nixon (1988-1992)
John Bayard Anderson (1992-1996)
William Jefferson Clinton (1996-2004)

[1] Yes, THAT Alexander Mitchell Palmer.
[2] In OTL, opposed the New Deal, very conservative, wanted to curb labor unions.
[3] First Republican president in 63 years.

Red= Republican
Blue= Democratic

[Thande]

Presidents of the United States of America 1960 onwards


John F. Kennedy (1960-63*)
Lyndon B. Johnson (1963-68)
Richard Nixon (1968-1974**)
Gerald Ford (1974-1976)
Jimmy Carter (1976-1984)
John B. Anderson (1984-1988)
H. Ross Perot (1988-1992)
Mario Cuomo (1992-2000)

*Assassinated
**Resigned

[President_Gore]

Alternate History
Baldwin wins the 1924 Election

38.) Stanley Baldwin, 1923 - 1925; Won 1924, Lost 1925
39.) Arthur Henderson, 1925 - 1933; Won 1925, 1929, Lost 1933
40.) Neville Chamberlain, 1933 - 1938; Won 1933, Lost 1938
41.) Herbert Morrison, 1938 - 1941; Won 1938, Resigned 1941
42.) Clement Attlee, 1941 - 1950; Won 1945, 1949, Resigned 1950
43.) Anuerin Bevan, 1950 - 1954; Lost 1954
44.) Anthony Eden, 1954 - 1957; Won 1954, Resigned 1957
45.) Alec Douglas-Home, 1957 - 1962; Won 1958, Lost 1962
46.) George Brown, 1962 - 1970; Won 1962, 1966, Lost 1970
47.) William Whitelaw, 1970 - 1981; Won 1970, 1974, 1979, Retired 1981
48.) Janet Young, 1981 - 1986; Won 1983, Lost 1986
49.) Roy Hattersley, 1986 - 1991; Won 1986, Lost 1991
50.) William Roache, 1991 - 1997; Won 1991, 1995, Resigned 1997
51.) Ann Widdecombe, 1997 - 1999; Lost 1999
52.) Jack Straw, 1999 - 2008; Won 1999, 2003, 2007, Retired 2008
53.) David Miliband, 2008 - 2011; Lost 2011
54.) Liam Fox, 2011 - 2016; Won 2011, Lost 2016
53.) David Miliband, 2016 - 2024; Won 2016, 2020, Lost 2024

In the absence of Churchill and Thatcher, the perceived greatest Prime Minister's of the 100 year period from 1924 to 2024 were Clement Attlee (1941 - 1950) for his conduct of the Second World War and introduction of the National Health Service; Sir Alec Douglas-Home (1957 - 1962) for his leadership in saving the West from the Cuban Missile Crisis after the removal of President Nixon in 1961 and William Whitelaw (1970 - 1981) for his Strike Amendment Law, introduction of the National Education Service and reform of local government.

The worst Prime Minister's of the 100 year period were Roy Hattersley (1986 - 1991) for the worst recession since the start of the century that occured under his Premiership; Herbert Morrison (1938 - 1941) for his inability to unite the country at the start of the Second World War and Anthony Eden for the failure of his Middle East foreign policy.

Rankings
Attlee
Whitelaw
Douglas-Home
Brown
Straw
Roache
Young
Henderson
Bevan
Miliband
Fox
Widdecombe
Baldwin
Chamberlain
Morrison
Eden
Hattersley

[Joshua Ben Ari]

List of General Secretaries of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (from "A World Without")

Joseph Stalin (1922-1953)
Nikita Khrushchev (1953-1964)
Leonid Brezhnev (1964-1969)*
Alexi Kosygin (1969-1977)
Yuri Andropov (1977-1984)
Konstantin Chernenko (1984-1985)
Grigori Romanov (1985-1991)
Mikhail Gorbachev (1991-1998)
Gennady Yanayev (1998-2010)
Mikhail Kasyanov (2010- present)
*assassinated by Victor Ilyin in January 1969

[Cathcon1]

This is a copy off of a style used by someone else that makes it look like wikipedia. I couldn't figure out how to do that, so here's the Paint version. Sorry if the colors are reveresed, I intended to use on uselectionatlas.org (the atlas forum) where the colors are reversed.



Notes:
33. Died in office
34. Remained a Republican
37. Assassinated
39. First Catholic President
40. Assassinated
41. First Mormon President, declined to seek re-election
43. Declined to seek re-election because of age and health issues
46. Had first Hispanic Vice-President
47. First African American President

[jack_donaghy_is_the_shado]

Time line for a novel I'm working on, btw the 33rd POTUS is fictional:

1945 Franklin D. Roosevelt/ Quentin J. Adamshock D
1945-1949 Quentin Adamshock D
1949-1953 Quentin Adamshock/ George C. Marshall D
1953-1956 Quentin Adamshock/ Adlai E. Stevenson D
1956-1957 Adlai Stevenson (acting president (Adamshock had been wounded in assasination attempt afte winning reelection
1957 Quentin Adamshock (disagree with Stevenson kept from returning as Veep)
1957-1961 Quentin Adamshock (Progressive)
1961 Martin L. King Jr. (acting president( King was SecState when the 1960 election went to the House
1961-1962 Quentin Adamshock/ Richard Nixon
1962-1965 Richard Nixon (President Adamshock passes away)
1965-1969 John F. Kennedy/Barry M. Goldwater (Democratic-Republican)
1969-1973 Barry Goldwater/ Spiro Agnew (JFK decided against another term due to health and scandal)
1973-1981 Martin King Jr./ George S. McGovern
1981 George McGovern/ Shirley Chisholm (President McGovern assassinated)
1981-1985 Shirley Chisholm/ Elmo Zumwhalt
1985-1993 Clinton Eastwood/Sylvester Stallone
1993-1997 Edward M. Kennedy/Harvey Milk
1997-2005 William J. Adamshock/Colin Powell (someone got adopted)
2005-2009 Colin Powell/ John Edwards
2009-2013 Colin Powell/ Selena Quintanilla

[Arkhangelsk]

Originally Posted by jack_donaghy_is_the_shado

Time line for a novel I'm working on, btw the 33rd POTUS is fictional:

-snip-

2009-2013 Colin Powell/ Selena Quintanilla

I don't know how you made Selena VP, but it makes me happy, so I'm glad you did so.

On another side note I was actually wondering the other day how her life/career would have panned out without being killed in 1995.

[jack_donaghy_is_the_shado]

Originally Posted by Arkhangelsk

I don't know how you made Selena VP, but it makes me happy, so I'm glad you did so.

On another side note I was actually wondering the other day how her life/career would have panned out without being killed in 1995.

You're very welcome! I'm trying to apply "sane" amount of butterflies and the resulting changes, and I thought Selena would make a pretty good addition, taking a break from music and representing Texas in Congress. And of course Powell's veep doesn't keep it zipped up, a bright, charismatic family girl takes his place.

[Hunam]

Originally Posted by historybuff

That UN-Iverse thing sounds pretty interesting, I'll wait to see if it gets turned into a TL.

Eventually, I'll make it; right now, the ETA is mid-summer, but plans may change. We'll need to see how things fall out.