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Old December 16th, 2011, 01:26 AM
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DPM resign? Why?
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My thinking is, with a PoD that averts Watergate but still this late, there's a good chance there's still going to be a face-off at some point between an executive branch seeking to expand its power and the legislative. Could be a re-election scandal, maybe a something akin to Iran-Contra, or something else, not sure...
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Think I did the list for this before, wanted to do the elections...

1980
Fmr Gov Ronald Reagan (CA) / George HW Bush (TX)
Pres Jimmy Carter (GA) / VP Walter Mondale (MN)

1984
Pres Ronald Reagan (CA) / VP George HW Bush (TX)
Fmr VP Walter Mondale (MN) / Jesse Jackson (DC)

1988
VP George HW Bush (TX) / Rep Jack Kemp (NY)
Fmr Gov Jerry Brown (CA) / Sen Al Gore (TN)

1992
Sen Bill Bradley (NJ) / Gov Bill Clinton (AR)
Pres George HW Bush (TX) / VP Jack Kemp (NY)

1996
Pres Bill Bradley (NJ) / VP Bill Clinton (AR)
Fmr VP Jack Kemp (NY) / Fmr Gen Colin Powell (VA)

2000
Fmr Gen Colin Powell (VA) / Sen Barry Goldwater Jr (CA)
VP Bill Clinton (GA) / Gov Harvey Milk (CA)
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1953-1961: Dwight D. Eisenhower (Independant)
1952: Robert Taft (R) and Adlai Stevenson (D)
1956: Richard Nixon (R) and Joseph Kennedy, Jr. (D)
1961-1965: Lyndon B. Johnson (Democratic)
1960: Richard Nixon (R)
1965-1973: Nelson Rockefeller (Republican)
1964: Lyndon B. Johnson (D) and Barry Goldwater (Conservative)
1968: Hubert Humphrey (D) and George Wallace (Conservative)
1973-1981: John F. Kennedy (Democratic)
1972: William Scranton (R), Ronald Reagan (Conservative), and George Wallace (State's Rights)
1976: John Connally (R)
1981-1985: George H.W. Bush (Republican)
1980: Jerry Brown (D)
1985-1993: Robert F. Kennedy (Democratic)
1984: George H.W Bush (R)
1988: Jack Kemp (R)
1993-2001: Colin Powell (Republican) [1]
1992: Jerry Brown (D) and Pat Buchanan (Conservative)
1996: William Clinton (D), Paul Wellstone (Green), and Pat Buchanan (Conservative)
2001-2005: John McCain (Republican)
2000: Bill Bradley (D) and Donald Trump (Conservative)
2005-2009: John Kerry (Democratic)
2004: John McCain (R), Paul Wellstone (Green), Gary Johnson (Libertarian), and Donald Trump (Conservative)
2009-2013: Newt Gingrich (Republican)
2008: John Kerry (D) and Ralph Nader (Green)
2013-2021: Eliot Spitzer (Democratic) [2]
2012: Mitt Romney (R), Russ Feingold (Green), Newt Gingrich (Conservative), and Gary Johnson (Libertarian)
2016: Rudy Giuliani (R), Russ Feingold (Green), Mark Sandford (Libertarian), and Sam Brownback (Conservative)

[1] First African-American president
[2] First Jewish-American president

Democratic Party: Center to Center-Left. Economically Liberal and Socially Liberal
Republican Party: Center to Center-Right. Economically Conservative and Socially Liberal
Conservative Party: Center-Right to Right-Wing. Economically Conservative and Socially Conservative
Green Party: Center-Left to Left Wing. Economically Democratic Socialist and Socially Liberal
Libertarian Party: Libertarian. Economically Libertarian and Socially Liberal
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Old December 17th, 2011, 07:13 PM
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List of presidents of Presidents of the Republic of Texas ,Prime Ministers of New Netherlands and Presidents of the United States of America from my world of the New Netherlands.


List of Presidents of the Republic of Texas

The authority and responsibilities of the President of the Republic of Texas is similar to that of the President of the United States; to serve the people of Texas, and to serve as the head of the military and the state, and which is detailed in the Constitution of the Republic of Texas of 1836. The Constitution specifies a term of two years for the first elected President (Sam Houston) and terms of three years thereafter; the President cannot succeed himself, but there are otherwise no term limits. The President is elected separately from the Vice-President, by popular vote, and there is no requirement to be native-born.

1st David G. Burnet, March 16th 1836 to October 22nd 1836.
2nd Sam Houston, 1836 to 1838, constitution specified a term of two years for the first elected President.
3rd Mirabeau B. Lamar, 1838 to 1841.
4th Sam Houston, 1841 to 1844, second term as president.
5th Anson Jones, 1844 to 1846.
6th Sam Houston, 1846 to 1849, third term as president.
7th John Alexander Greer, 1849 to 1851.
8th James Wilson Henderson, 1851 to 1854.
9th Elisha Marshall Pease, 1854 to 1857.
10th Sam Houston, 1857 to 1860, fourth term as president.
11th Edward Clark 1860 to 1863.
12th Francis Richard Lubbock, 1863 to 1866.
13th Elisha Marshall Pease, 1866 to 1869, second term as president.
1869 to 1872 also known as the president less period as no person managed to be voted into office. The Vice President in that period Fletcher Summerfield Stockdale (1868 to 1871) and Malcolm D. Graham (1871 to 1872) assumed the function as president as the Vice President of the Republic of Texas is elected separately from the President.
14th Richard Coke, 1872 to 1875.
15th Richard B. Hubbard, 1875 to 1878.
16th Oran Milo Roberts, 1878 to 1881.
17th Richard Coke, 1881 to 1884, second term as president.
18th John Ireland, 1884 to 1887.
19th Lawrence Sullivan Ross, 1887 to 1890.
20th James Stephen Hogg, 1890 to 1893.
21st George Cassety Pendleton, 1893 to 1896.
22nd Joseph D. Sayers, 1896 to 1899.
23rd James Nathan Browning, 1899 to 1902.
24th Thomas Mitchell Campbell, 1902 to 1905.
25th Oscar Branch Colquitt, 1905 to 1908.
26th Thomas Mitchell Campbell, 1908 to 1911, second term as president.
27th Oscar Branch Colquitt, 1911 to 1914, second term as president.
28th James E. Ferguson, 1914 to 1917.
29th William P. Hobby Sr, 1917 to 1920.
30th Pat Morris Neff, 1920 to 1923.
31st Thomas Whitfield Davidson, 1923 to 1926.
32nd Dan Moody, 1926 to 1929.
33rd Ross S. Sterling, 1929 to 1932.
34th Edgar E. Witt, 1932 to 1935.
35th James V. Allred, 1935 to 1939.
36th Coke R. Stevenson, 1939 to 1940, current President of the Republic of Texas.

Prime Ministers of New Netherlands

When Napoleon Bonaparte seized the Netherlands in 1795, Director-General Pierre Van Cortlandt assumed administrative control of the colonies of New Netherlands and when the Kingdom of New Netherland was proclaimed the office of Director General was replaced by that of prime minster.

Stephen Van Rensselaer, 1795 to 1803, first Prime minster of the Kingdom of New Netherlands, serving two terms.

Jeremiah Van Rensselaer, 1803 to 1810, died in office during his third term.

DeWitt Clinton, 1810 to 1818, was elected into office in a special election.
Herman Knickerbocker, 1818 to 1826, served two terms in office.

Martin Van Buren, 1837 to 1857, first Prime minster to serve five terms in office.

Robert Campbell, 1857 to 1861, first Prime Minster to serve only one term in office.

Charles Benedict Calvert, 1861 to 1865, second Prime Minster to serve only one term in office.

Schuyler Colfax, 1865 to 1877, served three terms in office.

Theodore Fitz Randolph, 1877 to 1885, served two terms in office.

Leon Abbett, 1885 to 1889, third Prime Minster to serve only one term in office.

George Craig Ludlow, 1889 to 1897, served two terms in office.

Theodore Roosevelt, 1897 to 1918, second Prime minster to serve five terms in office.

M. William Bray, 1918 to 1922, fourth Prime Minster to serve only one term in office.

Robert F. Wagner, 1922 to 1930, served two terms in office.

Franklin D. Roosevelt, 1930 to 1940, the current Prime minster of New Netherlands, now in his third term in office.

List of Presidents of the United States of America

George Washington, 1789 to 1797.

John Adams, 1797 to 1801.

Thomas Jefferson, 1801 to 1809.

James Madison , 1809 to 1817.

James Monroe, 1817 to 1825.

Andrew Jackson, 1825 to 1837, first president to serve three terms in office.

Richard Mentor Johnson, 1837 to 1841.

William Henry Harrison , 1841, died in office.

John Tyler, 1841 to 1845.

James Knox Polk, 1845 to 1849.

Zachary Taylor, 1849 to 1850, died in office.

James Buchanan, Jr, 1850 to 1853.

Lewis Cass, 1853 to 1857.

James Buchanan, 1857 to 1861.

Abraham Lincoln, 1861 to 1865, was assassinated while in office.

Andrew Johnson, 1865 to 1869.

Ulysses Simpson Grant, 1869 to 1877.

Rutherford Birchard Hayes, 1877 to 1881.

Winfield Hancock, 1881 to 1885.

James G. Blaine, 1885 to 1889.

Benjamin Harrison, 1889 to 1897.

William Jennings Bryan, 1897 to 1901.

William McKinley, Jr., 1901 to 1909.

William Howard Taft, 1909 to 1913.

Woodrow Wilson, 1913 to 1921 , second president to serve three terms in office.

Warren G. Harding , 1921 to 1923, died in office and was succeed by his vice-president Irvine Luther Lenroot.

Irvine Luther Lenroot , 1923 to 1924 , lost elections in the United States presidential election of 1924.

John William Davis , 1924 to 1928.

Herbert Clark Hoover, 1929 to 1937.

Alf Landon, 1937 to 1940, current president of the United States of America. His vice president is Frank Knox.
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Old December 26th, 2011, 04:18 AM
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Dewey defeats Truman... but not in the popular vote.

† = died in office of natural causes, ‡ = assassinated

Presidents of the United States of America
1933-1945: Franklin D. Roosevelt (Democratic)
1945-1949: Harry S Truman (Democratic)
1949-1953: Thomas Dewey (Republican)
1953-1961: Harry S Truman (Democratic)
1961-1962: Lyndon B. Johnson (Democratic)
1962-1968: Hubert Humphrey (Democratic)
1968-1976: Nelson Rockefeller (Republican)
1976-1983: Ronald Reagan (Democratic)
1983-1993: Douglas Wilder (Democratic)
1993-2001: Howard Baker (Republican)
2001-2009: Kathleen Brown (Democratic)
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Old December 31st, 2011, 03:25 AM
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Think I did the list for this before, wanted to do the elections...

1980
Fmr Gov Ronald Reagan (CA) / George HW Bush (TX)
Pres Jimmy Carter (GA) / VP Walter Mondale (MN)

1984
Pres Ronald Reagan (CA) / VP George HW Bush (TX)
Fmr VP Walter Mondale (MN) / Jesse Jackson (DC)

1988
VP George HW Bush (TX) / Rep Jack Kemp (NY)
Fmr Gov Jerry Brown (CA) / Sen Al Gore (TN)

1992
Sen Bill Bradley (NJ) / Gov Bill Clinton (AR)
Pres George HW Bush (TX) / VP Jack Kemp (NY)

1996
Pres Bill Bradley (NJ) / VP Bill Clinton (AR)
Fmr VP Jack Kemp (NY) / Fmr Gen Colin Powell (VA)

2000
Fmr Gen Colin Powell (VA) / Sen Barry Goldwater Jr (CA)
VP Bill Clinton (GA) / Gov Harvey Milk (CA)
That would make for a pretty good timeline.
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Old January 22nd, 2012, 08:46 AM
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PoDs: Barry Goldwater supports the Civil Rights Act (with reservations), Malcom X isn't killed in 1965, and more butterflies besides...

Lyndon Johnson (D) 1963-68
Barry Goldwater (R) 1969-76
Dale Bumpers (D) 1977-81*
Muhammad Ali (D) 1981-88†
Warren Christopher (D) 1989-92

John L Gafddis (R) 1993-2000††

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††elected Governor of Ohio 1990

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Prime Ministers of Hawaii (since 1887)

POD: Lili'uokalani does not fight back against the Bayonet Constitution of 1887

William Wilder, 1887-1892 (Reform)
Sanford Dole, 1892-1904 (Reform)
John A. Cummins, 1904-1906 (National Reform)
Walter Frear, 1906-1910 (Reform)
John A. Cummins, 1910-1913 (National Reform)
[1]
William A. Kinney, 1913-1919 (Reform)
Henry A. Baldwin, 1919-1934 (Reform)
George Wright, 1934-1937 (Reform)

Lawrence M. Judd, 1937-1941 (Reform)
[2]
<none, Japanese occupation, 1941-1942>
Lawrence M. Judd, 1942-1943 (Reform)
Ingram Stainback, 1943-1954 (Reform)
[3]
John A. Burns, 1954-1972 (National Liberal)
Spark Matsunaga, 1972-1986 (National Liberal)
Daniel Inouye, 1986-1997 (National Liberal)

Linda Lingle, 1997-2010 (Reform)
Mazie Hirono, 2010- (National Liberal)


[1]- Died in office
[2]- Surrendered to Imperial Japan after the 1941 Invasion of Hawaii
[3]- Removed anti-Asian voting restrictions from the Hawaiian Constitution
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From my TL: A Rise of Progressivism

1896-1904: William McKinley/ Theodore Roosevelt (Republican)
1904-1908: William Jennings Bryan/ Adlai Stevenson I (Democrat)
1908-1916: Teddy Roosevelt/ William Howard Taft (Progressive)
1916-1920: Howard Taft/ Elihu Root (Progressive) [1]
1920: Elihu Root (Progressive)
1920-1924: Leonard Wood/ Burton K. Wheeler (Progressive)
1924-1932: Calvin Coolidge/ John B. Kendrick (Conservative)
1932-1944: Huey Long/ John Nance Garner (Populist)
1944-1947: Robert Taft/ Douglas MacArthur (Conservative) [2]
1947-1948: Douglas MacArthur/ Richard Russell Jr. (Conservative) [3]
1948: Richard Russell Jr./ Kenneth Royall (Conservative)
1948-1956: Earl Warren/ Thomas Dewey (Progressive)
1956-1958: John Patterson/ Joseph Bracken Lee (Conservative) [4]
1958-1960: Joseph Bracken Lee/ Barry Goldwater (Conservative)
1960-1968: Joseph P. Kennedy Jr./ Lyndon B. Johnson (Progressive)
1968-1972: Russell B. Long/ Terry Sanford (Populist) [5]
1972-1980: Charlton Heston/ John Ashbrook (Conservative)
1980-1988: Ted Kennedy/ Ernest Hollings (Progressive-Populist)
1988-1992: Ernest Hollings/ Paul Tsongas (Progressive-Populist)
1992-2000: Elizabeth Dole/ Colin Powell(Conservative)
2000-2004: Paul Wellstone/ Blanche Lincoln (Progressive-Populist)
2004-2006: Bernadine Healy/ John Thune (Conservative)
2006-2008: Bernadine Healy/ Condoleezza Rice (Conservative) [6]
2008-2016: John F. Kennedy Jr./ Barrack Obama (Progressive-Populist)


[1] Taft assassinated in 1920 by suffragette.
[2] Robert Taft dies in 1947 of a heart attack.
[3] Douglas MacArthur impeached in 1948 for war crimes in Korea and China.
[4] Patterson assassinated by black activists.
[5] Long does not run for re-election after a cheating scandal.
[6] Vice President John Thune dies in a terrorist attack.
 
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Prime Minister of Great Britain:
1979-1984: Margaret Thatcher (Conservative)
1984-1987: Michael Foot (Labour) [1]
1987: Lord Whitelaw (National Government) [2]
1987-1989: Adam Susan (National Government) [3]


High Chancellor of Great Britain:
1989-1998: Adam Susan (Norsefire) [4], [5]
1998: Peter Creedy (Norsefire), acting [6]

1998-1999: Queen Zara (Independent) [7]

Prime Minister of Great Britain:
1999-2001: Michael Heseltine (Functionalist) [8]
2001-2008: Tony Blair (Social Democrat) [9]
2008-2011: Gordon Brown (Social Democrat)

2011-present: William Hague (Functionalist)

[1] Killed when his plane went down during the Archangel missile crisis
[2] Formed a caretaker government at the request of Queen Elizabeth following a split in the Labour Party over who should succeed Foot
[3] A former Chief Constable, took over from Whitelaw as an accepted, independent successor of all three major parties
[4] Assumed the new executive office of High Chancellor following the assassinations of the Royal Family excluding Princess Zara during the 1989 election. Susan assumed command and his re-assuring of the country led to a landslide victory
[5] Assassinated by Rose Almond during a parade on November 3rd 1998
[6] Took over from Susan as the "Emergency Commander" but was murdered on November 5th 1998.
[7] Used her royal prerogative powers to assume control following the downfall of the Norsefire government. This quelled the violence and allowed for fresh elections to be held in May 1999. This marked the first time since the Victorian era that a monarch had run the day to day affairs of Britain. She was hailed for her role in restoring the political and electoral system and ensuring a return to the traditional governments prior to 1987
[8] Won the first free elections since 1984 with a Functionalist (formerly Conservative) minority government
[9] Defeated Heseltine after he called a snap election with his Social Democrat (formerly Labour and Liberal) party
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Old January 22nd, 2012, 10:38 PM
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Fixing an old one -- realized Jerry Brown couldn't be Gregory Peck's VP (same state)

US Presidents
Richard Nixon (R) 1961-63**
Nelson Rockefeller (R) 1963-68

John F Kennedy (D) 1969-74*
Carl Albert (D) 1974-76

Douglas M. Head (R) 1977-80
Audie Murphy (D) 1981-88†
Jerry Brown (D) 1989-92††

Bill Clinton (R) 1993-2000
John F Kennedy, Jr (R) 2001-08

UK Prime Ministers
Harold Macmillan (C) 1957-63*
Rab Butler (C) 1963-70

Harold Wilson (L) 1970-81*
Tony Benn (L) 1981-85*
Neil Kinnock (L) 1985-90

Kenneth Clarke (C) 1990-99
Gordon Brown (L) (1999-2005)*

French Presidents
Charles de Gaulle (UNR) 1958-65
Francois Mitternand (FGDS) 1965-79
Valery G d'Estaing (UDF) 1979-86***
Jacques Chirac (UNR) 1986-91
Lionel Jospin (FGDS) 1991-2001
Jacques Chirac (RPR) 2001-08

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***terms shortened to five years

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Old January 24th, 2012, 03:36 PM
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Prime Ministers of Canada

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Tim Buck, 1935-1963 (Communist)
Leslie Morris, 1963-1964 (Communist) [1]
William Kashtan, 1964-1993 (Communist) [1]
George Hewison, 1993 (Communist) [2]
Brian Mulroney, 1993-1998 (Conservative)
Preston Manning, 1998-2003 (Conservative)

Jean Chretien, 2003-2007 (Liberal)
Jean Chretien, 2007-2009 (Liberal minority)
Michael Ignatieff, 2009-2010 (Liberal minority)

Peter Mackay, 2010- (Conservative)

[1]- Died in office
[2]- Acting, presided over the re-democratization of Canada
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1945-1957: Harry Truman (Democratic) [1]
1957-1965: Earl Warren (Republican) [2]
1965-1969: Hubert Humphrey (Democratic) [3]
1969-1977: Nelson Rockefeller (Republican) [4]
1977-1985: Robert F. Kennedy (Democratic)
1985-1993: Robert Dole (Republican)
1993-1997: Colin Powell (Republican) [5]
1997-2001: Paul Tsongas (Democratic) [6]
2001-2009: John McCain (Republican)
2009-2013: George Allen (Republican) [7]
2013-2021: Tammy Baldwin (Democratic) [8][9]

[1] After a shocking victory for the Democrats in 1948, Truman enacts an expansion of Social Security and the creation of a Universal Health Care system.
[2] Earl Warren proved to be popular with liberal Republicans and Northern Democrats with his pro-desegregation views. Along with Cheif Justice Thomas Dewey, the Warren Administration sees the end of segregation and a Civil Rights Act in 1962.
[3] The Humphrey Administration is considered a massive failure with Haiti and Cuba falling to communism.
[4] Nelson Rockefeller's administration was considered mixed. Despite Soviet threats, Rockefeller and the liberal Dominican Republic invaded Communist Haiti in 1970. Though the war would end fairly quickly, many Americans would die because of a deadly guerilla war that would last until the late 1970s. By the mid 1970s, stagflation would kick in with high inflation and 8.4% unemployment.
[5] First African-American elected President.
[6] Like Rockefeller, Tsongas would have a mixed presidency. By far the greatest event was the fall of the Soviet empire due to economic and internal pressure in 1999. Unfortunately, the popping of the Dot Com bubble would put the world into recession in 2000.
[7] After replacing the popular President McCain, Allen would have to deal with a worse recession when in 2011, the Housing bubble pops and brings down major financial institutions like Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers, and Merril Lynch. In a last ditch attempt to prevent a massive collapse, the conservative George Allen reluctantly allows the Federal takeover of AIG. The unemployment rate sat at 17.1% when Allen leaves office.
[8] First female President
[9] Baldwin enacts her "New Progress" economic and domestic recovery reforms. Included are new regulations on the derivatives market, more free-trade agreements, a public works campaign to fix American infrastructure and schools, and a temporary Workfare program.
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Kennedy not assassinated

1961-69 John F. Kennedy (D)
1969-77 Ronald Reagan (R)
1977-81 John A. Volpe (R)
1981 Cliff Finch (D) [1]
1981-89 Robert F. Kennedy (D)
1989-93 Sam Nunn (D)
1993-2001 Bob Kasten (R)
2001-09 William J. Clinton (D)
2009-2011 Mitt Romney (R) [1]
2011-present Stephanie Meyer (R)
[1] Assassinated.
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1945-1957: Harry Truman (Democratic) [1]
1957-1965: Earl Warren (Republican) [2]
1965-1969: Hubert Humphrey (Democratic) [3]
1969-1977: Nelson Rockefeller (Republican) [4]
1977-1985: Robert F. Kennedy (Democratic)
1985-1993: Robert Dole (Republican)
1993-1997: Colin Powell (Republican) [5]
1997-2001: Paul Tsongas (Democratic) [6]
2001-2009: John McCain (Republican)
2009-2013: George Allen (Republican) [7]
2013-2021: Tammy Baldwin (Democratic) [8][9]

[1] After a shocking victory for the Democrats in 1948, Truman enacts an expansion of Social Security and the creation of a Universal Health Care system.
[2] Earl Warren proved to be popular with liberal Republicans and Northern Democrats with his pro-desegregation views. Along with Cheif Justice Thomas Dewey, the Warren Administration sees the end of segregation and a Civil Rights Act in 1962.
[3] The Humphrey Administration is considered a massive failure with Haiti and Cuba falling to communism.
[4] Nelson Rockefeller's administration was considered mixed. Despite Soviet threats, Rockefeller and the liberal Dominican Republic invaded Communist Haiti in 1970. Though the war would end fairly quickly, many Americans would die because of a deadly guerilla war that would last until the late 1970s. By the mid 1970s, stagflation would kick in with high inflation and 8.4% unemployment.
[5] First African-American elected President.
[6] Like Rockefeller, Tsongas would have a mixed presidency. By far the greatest event was the fall of the Soviet empire due to economic and internal pressure in 1999. Unfortunately, the popping of the Dot Com bubble would put the world into recession in 2000.
[7] After replacing the popular President McCain, Allen would have to deal with a worse recession when in 2011, the Housing bubble pops and brings down major financial institutions like Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers, and Merril Lynch. In a last ditch attempt to prevent a massive collapse, the conservative George Allen reluctantly allows the Federal takeover of AIG. The unemployment rate sat at 17.1% when Allen leaves office.
[8] First female President
[9] Baldwin enacts her "New Progress" economic and domestic recovery reforms. Included are new regulations on the derivatives market, more free-trade agreements, a public works campaign to fix American infrastructure and schools, and a temporary Workfare program.
IOTL, Tsongas died of non-Hodgkins lymphoma in 1997. I don't see him surviving any longer in that TL.
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IOTL, Tsongas died of non-Hodgkins lymphoma in 1997. I don't see him surviving any longer in that TL.
Uh, the POD is in 1948?
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Uh, the POD is in 1948?
That still probably wouldn't butterfly away Tsongas' lymphoma OR probably cause a cure for non-Hodgkins lymphoma to be found. Plus, Tsongas was born before the POD so you can't say that this is a "different" Paul Tsongas, so I'd assume his health would be largely similar to the Paul Tsongas in our universe.
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Presidents of the United States based on who I guess AH.com will vote into office. With OTL death dates.

George Washington (Independent): 1789-1797
John Adams (Federalist): 1797-1801
Thomas Jefferson (Democratic-Republican): 1801-1809
James Madison (Democratic-Republican): 1809-1817
James Monroe (Democratic-Republican): 1817-1825

John Q. Adams (National Republican): 1825-1833
Henry Clay (National Republican): 1833-1837

Martin Van Buren (Democratic): 1837-1845
James K. Polk (Democratic): 1845-1849

Martin Van Buren (Free Soil): 1849-1853
Franklin Pierce (Democratic): 1853-1857
John C. Fremont (Republican): 1857-1861
Abraham Lincoln (Republican / National Union): 1861-1865*

Andrew Johnson (National Union / Democratic / Independent): 1865-1869
Ulysses S. Grant (Republican): 1869-1877
Samuel J. Tilden (Democratic): 1877-1881
James B. Weaver (Greenback): 1881-1885
Grover Cleveland (Democratic): 1885-1893
James B. Weaver (Populist): 1893-1897
William McKinley (Republican): 1897-1901
Eugene Debs (Social Democratic) 1901-1905
Theodore Roosevelt (Republican): 1905-1909
Eugene Debs (Socialist): 1909-1913
Theodore Roosevelt (Progressive): 1913-1917
Charles Evans Hughes (Republican): 1917-1921
Eugene Debs (Socialist): 1921-1925
Bob La Follette (Progressive): 1925*
Burton K. Wheeler (Progressive): 1925-1929

Al Smith (Democratic): 1929-1933
Franklin Roosevelt (Democratic): 1933-1945*
Harry Truman (Democratic): 1945-1949

Thomas Dewey (Republican): 1949-1953
Dwight Eisenhower (Republican): 1953-1961

John F. Kennedy (Democratic): 1961-1963*
Lyndon B. Johnson (Democratic): 1963-1969
Hubert H. Humphrey (Democratic): 1969-1973
George S. McGovern (Democratic): 1973-1977
Jimmy Carter (Democratic): 1977-1985
Walter Mondale (Democratic): 1985-1989
Michael Dukakis (Democratic): 1989-1993
Bill Clinton (Democratic): 1993-2001
Al Gore (Democratic): 2001-2005
John Kerry (Democratic): 2005-2009
Barack Obama (Democratic): 2009-2017
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