List alternate PMs or Presidents

[RogueBeaver]

For the lack of one Supreme Court vote...

Presidents of the Philippines

Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo (Lakas-CMD): January 20, 2001- November 12, 2007
Manuel Villar (Lib): November 12, 2007-present

Prime Ministers of the Philippines

Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo (Lakas-Kampi): November 22, 2007-present


For lack of 2 seats...

Prime Ministers of Canada

Pierre Trudeau (Lib): April 20, 1968- November 12, 1972
Robert Stanfield (PC): November 12, 1972- July 22, 1979
Michael Wilson (PC): July 22, 1979- March 1, 1987
Jean Chretien (Lib): March 1, 1987- October 12, 1997
Paul Martin (Lib): October 12, 1997- June 4, 2003
Peter Mackay (PC): June 4, 2003- August 30, 2010
Scott Brison (PC): August 30, 2010-present

[Wendell]

POD: 22nd Amendment fails to be ratified:

Harry Truman (D) 1945-1953
Dwight Eisenhower (R) 1953-1965
Hubert Humphrey (D) 1965-1977
Ronald Reagan (R) 1977-1989
William Clinton (D) 1989-2001
John McCain (R) 2001-2013

[glenn67]

Originally Posted by EvilSpaceAlien

The 22nd doesn't pass, but Equal Opportunity to Govern Amendment does.

1948: Harry S. Truman/Alben W. Barkley (D)
1952: Harold Stassen/Dwight D. Eisenhower (R)
1956: Harold Stassen/Dwight D. Eisenhower (R)
1960: Harold Stassen/Dwight D. Eisenhower (R)
1964: Lyndon B. Johnson/Robert F. Kennedy (D)
1968: Lyndon B. Johnson/Robert F. Kennedy (D)
1971: Robert F. Kennedy/incumbent* (D)
1972: Barry Goldwater/Ronald Reagan (R)
1976: Robert F. Kennedy/George McGovern (D)
1980: Robert F. Kennedy/George McGovern (D)
1984: Ronald Reagan/Bob Dole (R)
1988: Ronald Reagan/Bod Dole (R)
1992: Bob Dole/Jack Kemp (R)
1996: Bill Clinton/Daniel Inouye (D)
2000: Bill Clinton/Daniel Inouye (D)
2004: Bill Clinton/Daniel Inouye (D)
2008: Elizabeth Dole/John Boehner (R)
2012: Jennifer Granholm/Tom Udall (D)

*Johnson dies

What is the Equal Opportunity to Govern Amendment?

[Wendell]

Originally Posted by glenn67

What is the Equal Opportunity to Govern Amendment?

It waives the "Natural born" requirement for presidential eligibility.

[Joshua Ben Ari]

Originally Posted by Meadow

Fictional Face-off

Jim Hacker (Con) 1986-1990
Francis Urquhart (Con) 1990-2001*
Tom Makepeace (Con) 2001
Harry Perkins (Lab) 2001-2003**
Lawrence Wainwright (Lab) 2003-2007
Harold Saxon (Independence) 2007-2009***
Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart (Head of Provisional Military Government) 2009-2011
Alan B'stard (National Unity And Reconstruction For A New British Century) 2011-present

*Assassinated
**Resigned due to 'ill-health'
***Presumed killed in Great War of Anti Extra-Terrestrial Liberation

This is a very interesting list. Is there more?

[TNF]

POD: Gerald Ford campaigns a bit harder in the Midwest, allowing him to carry a few more states than he did IOTL, and allowing him to win the White House, despite losing the popular vote to Jimmy Carter.

Presidents of the United States, 1974-2011
38. Gerald R. Ford (R-MI): August 9, 1974 - January 20, 1981
--1976: Gov. James E. "Jimmy" Carter / Sen. Walter F. Mondale (Democratic)
39. Edward M. Kennedy (D-MA): January 20, 1981 - January 20, 1989
--1980: Vice Pres. Robert J. "Bob" Dole / Rep. Jack F. Kemp (Republican)
--1984: Gov. John B. Connally / Sen. John C. "Jack" Danforth (Republican)
40. Lloyd M. Bentsen (D-TX): January 20, 1989 - January 20, 1997
--1988: Sen. William L. "Bill" Armstrong / Sen. Gordon J. Humphrey (Republican)
--1992: Gov. Thomas H. Kean / Sen. J. Danforth "Dan" Quayle (Republican)
41. William F. Weld (R-MA): January 20, 1997 - January 20, 2005
--1996: Vice Pres. Thomas A. "Tom" Daschle / Sen. Joseph Lieberman (Democratic)
--2000: Gov. Dianne G.B. Feinstein (Democratic) / Albert A. "Al" Gore (Democratic)
42. Howard B. Dean III (D-VT): January 20, 2005 - January 20, 2013
--2004: Vice Pres. Richard G. "Dick" Lugar / Gov. Thomas J. "Tom" Ridge (Republican)
--2008: Gov. Charles J. "Charlie" Crist / Sen. Olympia Snowe (Republican)

[EvilSpaceAlien]

Originally Posted by Meadow

How does the 22nd not passing get Stassen to be top of the ticket in 1952?

It doesn't. But the Draft Eisenhower movement was much smaller and unsuccessful ITTL (but Eisenhower said yes to the Veep nom), Taft's cancer was discovered earlier than OTL so he personally pulled his name out of the running, and thus Warren and Stassen became the main contenders for the nomination and Stassen was able to beat Warren in an upset.

Originally Posted by Meadow

No love/comments for this?

The Brigadier ruling Britain? Awesome.

Originally Posted by glenn67

What is the Equal Opportunity to Govern Amendment?

What Wendell said.

[RogueBeaver]

POD: Dewey wins in 1948.

Presidents of the United States

34. Thomas E. Dewey (R-NY): January 20, 1949- January 20, 1957
35. Earl Warren (R-CA): January 20, 1957- January 20, 1961
36. Stuart S. Symington (D-MO): January 20, 1961- January 20, 1969
37. Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY): January 20, 1969- January 20, 1973
38. Henry Jackson (D-WA): January 20, 1973- November 19, 1979*
39. Carl Sanders (D-GA): November 19, 1979- January 20, 1981
40. George H.W. Bush (R-TX): January 20, 1981- January 20, 1989
41. Sam Nunn (D-GA): January 20, 1989- January 20, 1993
42. Newt Gingrich (R-GA): January 20, 1993- January 20, 2001
43. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA): January 20, 2001- January 20, 2009
44. Hillary Rodham (R-IL): January 20, 2009-

[Meadow]

Originally Posted by Joshua Ben Ari

This is a very interesting list. Is there more?

There are plenty of fictional PMs out there, I went with the ones I knew best. I'll try and extend the list back to 1945 at some point.

[EvilSpaceAlien]

List of Prime Ministers of Sweden (1948-)
1948: Tage Erlander (Social Democrat)
1952: Tage Erlander (S)
1956: Tage Erlander (S)
1958: Tage Erlander (S)
1960: Tage Erlander (S)
1964: Tage Erlander (S)
1968: Tage Erlander (S)*
1969: Olof Palme (S)
1970: Olof Palme (S)
1973: Thorbjörn Fälldin (Centre Party)
Centre-Moderate-Liberal coaltion
1975: Gösta Bohman (Moderate Coalition Party)**
1976: Olof Palme (S)
1979: Thorbjörn Fälldin (C)
C-M-L
1982: Thorbjörn Fälldin (C)
C-M-L
1985: Olof Palme (S)
1988: Olof Palme (S)
1991: Olof Palme (S)*
1992: Mona Sahlin (S)***
1993: Thage G. Peterson (S)
1994: Thage G. Peterson (S)
1998: Thage G. Peterson (S)*
1999: Göran Persson (S)
2002: Lars Leijonborg (Liberal People's Party)
Liberal-Moderate-Centre-Christian Democrat-Green coalition
2006: Lars Leijonborg (L)
L-M-C-Cd-G
2010: Lars Leijonborg (L)
L-M-C
2012: Sofia Arkelsten (M)**
2014: Veronica Palm (Worker's Party)****
Worker's Party-Social Democrat-Green-Left Party coaltion

*Resigned
**Coalition collapsed
***Assassinated
****The Worker's Party is a left wing party formed by a split in the Social Democrats in the late 2000s. Its ideological position is more to the left of the Social Democrats, but to the right of the Left Party

Results of the 2016 General Election
Worker's Party: 26,9%
Liberal People's Party: 23,6%
Social Democratic Party: 21,0%
Moderate Party: 10,5%*
Green Party: 7,5%
Centre Party: 4,8%
Left Party: 4,2%
Other: 1,5%

*formed by the merger of the Moderate Coaltion Party and the Christian Democratic Party in 2010

[Wendell]

Originally Posted by RogueBeaver

POD: Dewey wins in 1948.

Presidents of the United States

34. Thomas E. Dewey (R-NY): January 20, 1949- January 20, 1957
35. Earl Warren (R-CA): January 20, 1957- January 20, 1961
36. Stuart S. Symington (D-MO): January 20, 1961- January 20, 1969
37. Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY): January 20, 1969- January 20, 1973
38. Henry Jackson (D-WA): January 20, 1973- November 19, 1979*
39. Carl Sanders (D-GA): November 19, 1979- January 20, 1981
40. George H.W. Bush (R-TX): January 20, 1981- January 20, 1989
41. Sam Nunn (D-GA): January 20, 1989- January 20, 1993
42. Newt Gingrich (R-GA): January 20, 1993- January 20, 2001
43. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA): January 20, 2001- January 20, 2009
44. Hillary Rodham (R-IL): January 20, 2009-

Is Symington even plausible given these circumstances? Also, why does Jackson not serve out his term?

[Rogov]

(not mine: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/...olutionary-AAR )

Chairmen of the VSVR:
1850: Karl Marx (Marxist) (provisional chairman)
1850-1855: Wilhelm Weitling (German Socialist)
1855-1860: Karl Marx (Marxist)
1860-1865: Karl Marx (Marxist)
1865-1870: Friedrich Engels (United Cooperationist)
1870-1875: Friedrich Engels (United Front)
1875-1880: Vladimir Lenin (Marxist-Leninist)
1880-1883*: Piotyr Kropotkin (Anarchist)
1884-1890: Vladimir Lenin (Marxist-Leninist)
1890-1895: Rosa Luxemburg (Luxemburgist)
1895-1896**: Rosa Luxemburg (Marxist Bloc)
1896-1900: Karl Liebknecht (Marxist Bloc)
1900-1905: Leon Trotsky (Marxist-Leninist)
1905-1910: Chairman Leon Trotsky (Marxist-Leninist), First Convenor Emma Goldman (Democratic Anarchist), Second Convenor Anton Drexler (National Communist
1910: Three-way election between the Marxists, Democratic Anarchists, and National Communists

*term interrupted by the VSVR Civil War, between Leninists-Militarists (led by the Lenin and Schlieffen and utilizing the Red Army) and Anarchists (led by the radical wing commanded by Kadon, the formerly imprisoned leader of the Young Anarchists, and Malatesta; utilizing the long-standing Libertarian militia that once defended the capital against Blanqui's treacherous coup)
**assassinated by a lone gunman

[EvilSpaceAlien]

Inspired by a certain other thread on the forum, with a slight adjustment made to the original scenario.

1980: Ronald Reagan (R-CA)*/George H.W. Bush (R-TX)**
1981: Tip O'Neill (D-MA)/Daniel Inouyne (D-HI)
1984: Bob Dole (R-KS)/Paul Laxalt (R-NV)
1988: Daniel Inouye (D-HI)/Gary Hart (D-CO)
1992: Daniel Inouye (D-HI)/Gary Hart (D-CO)
1996: Jack Kemp (R-NY)/Pete Wilson (R-CA)
2000: Jack Kemp (R-NY)/Pete Wilson (R-CA)
2004: Geraldine Ferraro (D-NY)/Bill Richardson (D-NM)
2008: Geraldine Ferraro*** (D-NY)/Bill Richardson (D-NM)
2009: Bill Richardson (D-NM)/Russ Feingold (D-WI)
2012: Bill Richardson (D-NM)/Russ Feingold (D-WI)

*Assassinated.
**Dies in a plane crash on the way back to D.C. after Reagan's assassination.
***Resigns to spend more time with her family since she is suffering from multiple myeloma.

[Wendell]

POD: Changes in French politics just after World War II lead post-war Africa to be organized differentl. As a result, French West Africa becomes independent as the Federation of West Africa in 1960. The following is a list of its presidents:

Félix Houphouët-Boigny (West African Democratic Rally) 1961-1971
Modibo Keita (West African People's Party) 1971-1977
Leopold Sedar Senghor (West African People's Party) 1977-1981
Ali Saibou (West African Movement for Development) 1981-1986
Maurice Yaméogo (West African Democratic Rally) 1986-1993
Lansana Conté (West African Democratic Rally) 1993-2001
Amadou Toumani Touré (West African People's Party) 2001-2011

[John Fredrick Parker]

PoD -- Mao's army destroyed in 1934

US Presidents
Franklin D Roosevelt (D) 1933-45
Harry Truman (D) 1945-56
Scott Lucas (D) 1957-60
Henry C Lodge (R) 1961-65*
William Stratton (R) 1965-72
Ronald Reagan (D) 1973-80
Jackie Robinson (R) 1981-88
Jay Rockefeller (R) 1989-92
Steven Spielberg (D) 1993-2000

*assassinated

[EvilSpaceAlien]

POD: Reagan loses in '84. Not sure how, but he does.

1980: Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/George H.W. Bush (R-TX)
1984: Gary Hart (D-CO)/Geraldine Ferraro (D-NY)
1988: Gary Hart (D-CO)*/Geraldine Ferraro (D-NY)
1989: Geraldine Ferraro (D-NY)/vacant
1992: Geraldine Ferraro (D-NY)/Al Gore (D-TN)
1996: Dan Quayle (R-IN)/Pete Wilson (R-CA)
2000: Al Gore (D-TN)/Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH)
2004: Al Gore (D-TN)/Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH)
2008: Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Newt Gingrich (R-GA)
2012: Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Newt Gingrich (R-GA)

*Hart assassinated

[Snowstalker]

POD: No Chappaquiddick. May become a timeline.

1972: Richard Nixon*/Gerald Ford (R)
1974: Gerald Ford/Nelson Rockefeller (R)
1976: Edward Kennedy/Lloyd Bentsen (D)
1980: Edward Kennedy/Lloyd Bentsen (D)
1984: Lloyd Bentsen/Gary Hart (D)
1988: Bob Dole/George Deukmejian (R)
1992: Bob Dole/George Deukmejian (R)
1996: Bill Clinton/Howard Dean (D)
2000: Bill Clinton/Howard Dean (D)
2004: John McCain/Tom Ridge (R)
2008: John McCain/Tom Ridge (R)
2012: Amy Klobuchar/Joe Manchin (D)

[EvilSpaceAlien]

List of People's Minister of State of the Worker's Republic of Sweden
1926: Hugo Sillén* (Communist Party of Sweden)
1933: Karl Kilbom (Communist Worker's Party of Sweden**)
1951: Set Persson (CWPS)***
1960: Nils Holmberg (CWPS)
1967: C.H. Hermansson**** (CWPS)

*Killed in an internal power struggle.
**The name of the party was changed after the internal coup that ousted Sillén and his associates.
***Dies while in office.
****Presided over the reforms that turned Sweden into a proper democratic nation.

List of Presidents of the Democratic Socialist Republic of Sweden
1986: C.H. Hermansson (Socialist Party) (interim)
1988: Olof Palme (S)
1993: Gudryn Schyman (S)
1996: Göran Persson (Liberal Party)
1999: Göran Persson (L)
2002: Göran Persson (L)
2005: Anders Borg (Progress Party)
2007: Anders Borg (P)
2010: Alice Åström (S)
2013: Alice Åström (S)
2016: Ida Gabrielsson (S)

Socialist Party (S) (sv: Socialistiska Partiet)
Leader: Prime Minister Ida Gabrielsson
economically left, socially liberal
The main left wing party and the direct successor to the communist party. OTL equivalent is the Left Party

Liberal Party (L) (sv: Liberala Partiet)
Leader: MP Margot Wallström
economically moderate, socially moderate
A centrist political party that promotes social liberalism and social democracy. OTL equivalent is the Social Democratic Party, the Green Party, and the Centre Party pre-Olofsson.

Progress Party (P) (sv: Framstegspartiet)
Leader: MP Sven Otto Littorin
economically liberal (classic), socially moderate
The main right wing party that promotes individual rights and economic freedom. OTL equivalent is the Moderate Party and the People's Party

Other parties:

Trotskyist Justice Party (Tjp) (sv: Trotskyistiska Rättvisepartiet)

Green Alliance (D)(sv: Gröna Förbundet)

Freedom Party (Fp) (sv: Frihetspartiet)

Democratic Party - the Royalists (Dr) (sv: Demokratiska Partiet - Rojalisterna)
2016 General election
Socialist: 42,9%
Liberal: 22,7%
Progress: 14,0%
Democratic Royalist: 6,8%
Freedom: 6,7%
Democratic: 2,9%
Trotskyist: 2,1%
Other: 2,2%

Result:
Socialist-Democratic Royalist-Green coalition government

[EvilSpaceAlien]

Nixon assassinated in '69
1969: Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Spiro Agnew (R-MD)
1969 (August): Spiro Agnew (R-MD)/Gerald Ford (R-MI)*
1972: Gerald Ford (R-MI)/Harold Stassen (R-MN)**
1973: George McGovern (D-SD)/Henry M. Jackson (D-WA)
1977: George McGovern (D-SD)/Henry M. Jackson (D-WA)
1981: Harold Stassen (R-MN)/Ronald Reagan (R-CA)
1985: Harold Stassen (R-MN)/Ronald Reagan (R-CA)
1989: Geraldine Ferraro (D-NY)/Bill Clinton (D-AR)
1993: Geraldine Ferraro (D-NY)/Bill Clinton (D-AR)
1997: Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Jerry Brown (D-CA)
2001: Colin Powell (R-NY)/Elizabeth Dole (R-NC)
2005: Colin Powell (R-NY)/Elizabeth Dole (R-NC)
2009: Bill Richardson (D-NM)/Paul Krugman (D-NY)
2013: Bill Richardson (D-NM)/Paul Krugman (D-NY)
2017: Tim Pawlenty (R-MN)/Bobby Jindal (R-LA)
2021: Ben R. Luján (D-NM)/Gavin Newsom (D-CA)

Defeated tickets:
1968: Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Edmund Muskie (D-ME) - George Wallace (AI-AL)/Curtis LeMay (AI-CA)
1972: Gerald Ford (R-MI)/Harold Stassen (R-MN) - George Wallace (AI-AL)/Thomas Jefferson Anderson (AI-TN)
1976: John Connally (R-TX)/Bob Dole (R-KS)
1980: Edmund Muskie (D-ME)/Jimmy Carter (D-GA)
1984: Gary Hart (D-CO)/Edward Kennedy (D-MA)
1988: Bob Dole (R-KS)/George H.W. Bush (R-TX)
1992: John Sununu (R-NH)/Paul Laxalt (R-NV)
1996: Dan Quayle (R-IN)/Jack Kemp (R-NY)
2000: Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Jerry Brown (D-CA)
2004: Joe Biden (D-DE)/Al Gore (D-TN)
2008: Elizabeth Dole (R-NC)/John McCain (R-AZ)
2012: Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Mike Huckabee (R-AR)
2016: Paul Krugman (D-NY)/Antonio Villaraigosa (D-CA)
2020: Tim Pawlenty (R-MN)/Bobby Jindal (R-LA)

[Snowstalker]

Originally Posted by Snowstalker

POD: No Chappaquiddick. May become a timeline.

1972: Richard Nixon*/Gerald Ford (R)
1974: Gerald Ford/Nelson Rockefeller (R)
1976: Edward Kennedy/Lloyd Bentsen (D)
1980: Edward Kennedy/Lloyd Bentsen (D)
1984: Lloyd Bentsen/Gary Hart (D)
1988: Bob Dole/George Deukmejian (R)
1992: Bob Dole/George Deukmejian (R)
1996: Bill Clinton/Howard Dean (D)
2000: Bill Clinton/Howard Dean (D)
2004: John McCain/Tom Ridge (R)
2008: John McCain/Tom Ridge (R)
2012: Amy Klobuchar/Joe Manchin (D)

So, ya think I should make this into a timeline?