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Old February 24th, 2011, 05:48 PM
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Alternate Australian Prime Ministers
No Constitutional Crisis 1975


Red - Labor
Blue - Liberal

21.) Gough Whitlam, 1972 - 1977; Won 1972, 1974, Lost 1977
22.) Malcolm Fraser, 1977 - 1982; Won 1977, 1980, Lost 1982
23.) Jim Cairns, 1982 - 1984; Won 1982, Resigned 1984
24.) Bill Hayden, 1984 - 1992; Won 1985, 1988, 1991, Resigned 1992
25.) Stewart West, 1992 - 1994; Lost 1994

26.) Peter Costello, 1994 - 2000; Won 1994, 1997, Lost 2000
27.) Kim Beazley, 2000 - 2003; Won 2000, Lost 2003
28.) Amanda Vanstone, 2003 - present; Won 2003, 2006, 2009
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Old February 25th, 2011, 06:19 AM
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This is the first version of my planned "Liberal Republicans, Conservative Democrats" TL. The POD is William Jennings Bryan joining the Republicans instead of the Democrats. Warning: Butterfly-lite.

List of Presidents 1897-2010
25. 1897-1901: William McKinley (R-OH)
26. 1901-1905: Adlai Stevenson I (D-IL)
27. 1905-1909: Theodore Roosevelt (R-NY)
1909-1913: Theodore Roosevelt (R-NY)
28. 1913-1917: William Hearst (D-CA)
1917-1921: William Hearst (D-CA)
29. 1921-1925: A. Mitchell Palmer (D-PA)
30. 1925: Robert LaFollete (R-WS)*
31. 1925-1929: Herbert Hoover (R-CA)
1929-1933: Herbert Hoover (R-CA)
32. 1933-1937: William Murray (D-OK)
1937-1941: William Murray(D-OK)
33. 1941-1945: Alf Landon (R-KS)
1945-1949: Alf Landon (R-KS)
34. 1949-1953: Douglas MacArthur (D-NY)
1953-1957: Douglas MacArthur (D-NY)
35. 1957-1961: Joseph Kennedy (D-MA)
1961: Joseph Kennedy (D-MS)**
36. 1961-1965: Albert Gore (D-TN)
37. 1965-1969: Richard Nixon (R-CA)
1969-1973: Richard Nixon (R-CA)
38. 1973-1977: John Ashbrook (D-OH)
1977-1981: John Ashbrook (D-OH)
39. 1981-1985: George H. W. Bush (R-CT)
1985-1989: George H. W. Bush (R-CT)
40. 1989-1991: Alexander Haig (D-MD)***
41. 1991-1993: Paul Simon (D-IL)****
42. 1993-1997: Tom Laughlin (R-WS)
1997-2001: Tom Laughlin (R-WS)
43. 2001-2005: Patricia Hearst (D-CA)
2005-2009: Patricia Hearst (D-CA)
44. 2009-: Mitt Romney (R-MA)

*Died in office
**Assassinated during a state visit to the Republic of Palestine
***Holds the dubious distinction of being the only president arrested for treason
****The guy with the bowtie, not the folk singer

List of Vice-Presidents
24. Garret Hobart 1897-1899 (R-NJ)*
None 1899-1901
25. David Hill 1901-1905 (D-NY)
26. Albert Beveridge 1905-1909 (R-IN)
27. Joseph Foraker 1909-1913 (R-OH)
28. James Beauchamp "Champ" Clark 1913-1921 (D-MO)
29. John William Davis 1921-1925 (D-WV)
30. Herbert Hoover 1925 (R-CA)**
None 1925-1929
31. Charles Dawes 1929-1933 (R-IL)
32. Albert Ritchie 1933-1936 (D-MD)*
None 1936-1937
33. Cordell Hull 1937-1941 (D-TN)
34. Wendell Willkie 1941-1944 (R-IN)*
None 1944-1945
35. Everett Dirksen 1945-1949 (R-IL)
36. Harley Kilgore 1949-1956 (D-WV)*
None 1956-1957
37. Albert Gore 1957-1961 (D-TN)**
38. Adlai Stevenson II 1961-1965 (D-IL)***
39. Hubert Humphrey 1965-1973 (R-MT)
40. Wilbur Mills 1973-1981 (D-AK)
41. Jerry Brown 1981-1989 (R-CA)
42. Paul Simon 1989-1991 (D-IL)**
43. Paul Laxalt 1991-1993 (D-NV)
44. H. Ross Perot 1993-2001 (R-TX)
45. John Kasich 2001-2009 (D-OH)
46. Bill Richardson 2009- (R-NM)

*Died in office
** Succeded to the presidency
*** First VP appointed to the position

Defeated Tickets
1896: Grover Cleveland/Arthur Sewall
1900: William McKinley/William Jennings Bryan
1904: Adlai Stevenson/Alton Parker
1908: George Gray/Woodrow Wilson
1912: Robert La Follette/Hiram Johnson
1916: Charles Fairbanks/Elihu Root
1920: Frank Lowden/William C. Sproul
1924: William McAdoo/Oscar Underwood
1928: James A. Reed/Joseph Robinson
1932: Charles Dawes/John J Blaine
1936: William Edgar Borah/Frank Knox
1940: Franklin Delano Roosevelt/John Nance Gardener
1944: John Bankhead/Alben Barkley
1948: Thomas Dewey/Prescott Bush
1952: Thomas Dewey/Estes Kefauver
1956: Estes Kefauver/Richard Nixon
1960: Richard Nixon/Nelson Rockefeller
1964: Albert Gore/Adlai Stevenson
1968: John Kennedy/John Lindsay
1972: Hubert Humphrey/Fred Harris, Eugene McCarthy/Shirley Chisolm
1976: Fred Harris/Frank Church
1980: Lloyd Bentsen/Gerald Ford
1984: Jimmy Carter/Jack Kemp
1988: Jerry Brown/Gary Hart
1992: Al Gore, Jr/Donald Rumsfeld
1996: Joe Kennedy III/Arlen Specter
2000: George W. Bush/Olympia Snowe
2004: Mel Carnahan/Tom Daschle
2008: Mike Huckabee/John Kennedy, Jr
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Old February 25th, 2011, 03:05 PM
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Alternate Chinese Presidents

POD: The Nationalists (Kuomintang) defeat the Communists in 1948 and win the Chinese Civil War. Chiang Kai-Shek got a Constitution passed which included democratic elections. He is the first democratically elected President in 1950 by defeating nominally weak opposition. The President serves a term of 5 years, with a special election to be held six months after the President dies, resigns or is removed by a vote of the National Assembly for impeachment or medical reasons. The Prime Minister serves as interim President until the special election.

1. Chiang Kai-Shek (K): 1948-1975
2. Chiang Ching-Kuo (K): 1975-1986
3. Zhu Rongji (K): 1986-1987

4. Jiang Zemin (SD): 1987-1990
5. Tung Chee-Hwa (L): 1990-2000
6. Lee Teng-Hui (K): 2000-2008
7. Hung Kam Po (L): 2008-2009
8. Sir Donald Tsang (P): 2009-Present

K=Kuomintang
SD=Social Democrats
L=Liberal
P=Progressive

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1. Son of Chiang Kai-Shek. Resigned in 1986 for health reasons
3. Did not run for President in 1987 special election
4. First incumbent President to lose re-election
6. First hakka (indigenous Taiwanese) President of China. Resigned for health reason in 2008
7. Interior Minister and Deputy Prime Minister in the Tung administration. Led the Liberals in the National Assembly during Lee's Presidency and became Prime Minister after the Liberals won the 2007 elections, the first instance of co-habitation in the Chinese government.
8. A career civil servant in Hong Kong during British colonial rule (that ended in 1997), Tsang was knighted by Queen Elizabeth II. Elected mayor of Hong Kong in 2001, Tsang presided over unprecedent job growth and major renovation of Victoria Park. Founded the Progressive Party in 2006 which attracted moderates from the Social Democratic and Kuomintang parties. Tsang defeated Hung in the 2009 special election to become the first Roman Catholic President of China and won a landslide for a full 5 year term in 2010 that swept the Progressives to a majority in the National Assembly

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Old February 25th, 2011, 08:21 PM
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POD: The Nationalists (Kuomintang) defeat the Communists in 1948 and win the Chinese Civil War.
7. Hung Kam Po (L): 2008-2009
Is that actor Sammo Hung?


More relevantly, what are the ideologies of these parties in the alternate history, roughly?
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Old February 25th, 2011, 09:49 PM
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Is that actor Sammo Hung?
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More relevantly, what are the ideologies of these parties in the alternate history, roughly?
Kuomintang: a nationalist and anti-Communist party that was also the personal fiefdom of Chiang and his family. Generally pro-business, statist and anti-labor. USA and Australia were closest allies of Kuomintang governments. Currently, it is a right of center party.

Liberal: Unabashedly pro-business and for free trade, unlike the Kuomintang. Philosophically for classic liberalism. Similar OTL to Japanese Liberal Democrats

Social Democrats: socially liberal and economically leftist

Progressive: reformist in nature, socially liberal and economically moderate. Generally for free trade
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Kuomintang: a nationalist and anti-Communist party that was also the personal fiefdom of Chiang and his family. Generally pro-business, statist and anti-labor. USA and Australia were closest allies of Kuomintang governments. Currently, it is a right of center party.

Liberal: Unabashedly pro-business and for free trade, unlike the Kuomintang. Philosophically for classic liberalism. Similar OTL to Japanese Liberal Democrats

Social Democrats: socially liberal and economically leftist

Progressive: reformist in nature, socially liberal and economically moderate. Generally for free trade
Stands to reason.
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Old February 26th, 2011, 03:24 AM
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An expansion on a previous post...

US Presidents
Lyndon B Johnson (1963-68) (D)
Robert F Kennedy (1969-72) (D)

Ronald Reagan (1973-80) (R)
Jerry Brown (1981) (D) (assassinated)
John Glenn (1981-88) (D)
Colin Powell (1989-96) (R)
Lamar Alexander (1997-2000) (R)

Robert F Kennedy Jr (2001-08) (D)

Canada, Prime Ministers
Lester Pearson (1963-68) (L)
Paul Hellyer (1968-72) (L)

Robert Stanfield (1972-81) (C)
John Turner (1981-90) (L)
Kim Campbell (1990-2002) (C)
Paul Martin (2002-09) (L)

UK Prime Ministers
Harold Wilson (1964-75) (L)
Enoch Powell (1975-79) (C)
Roy Jenkins (1979-87) (L)
Enoch Powell (1987-90) (C)
Margaret Thatcher (1990-96) (C)

David Owen (1996-2003) (L)
Gordon Brown (2003-07) (L)


France, Presidents
Charles de Gaulle (1959-72) (UNR)
Jean Lecanuet (1972-79) (DC)
Jacques Chirac (1979-86) (UNR)
François Mitterrand (1986-2000) (PS)
Alain Juppé (2000-07) (UNR)

USSR, General Secretary of the Communist Party
Leonid Brezhnev (1964-69) (assassinated)
Alexei Kosygin (1969-80)
Mikhail Suslov (1980-82)
Yuri Andropov (1982-84)
Mikhail Gorbachev (1984-97)
Alexander Lebedev (1997-2009)

EDIT NOTE: Changed Trudeau to Hellyer
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Old February 26th, 2011, 03:26 AM
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List of Presidents of the United States of America

1864: George McClellan/G.H Pendleton (D)
1868: Ulysses Grant/Schylur Colfax (R)
1872: Ulysses Grant/Henry Wilson (R)
1876: Rutherford B. Hayes/William Wheeler (R)
1880: James Garfield/Chester Arthur (R)
1884: James Blaine/John Logan (R)
1888: James Blaine/John Logan (R)
1892: Grover Cleveland/Adlai Stevenson (D)
1896: William McKinley/Garret Hobart (R)
1900: William McKinley/Theodore Roosevelt (R)
1904: Theodore Roosevelt/Charles Fairbanks (R)
1908: Theodore Roosevelt/Charles Fairbanks (R)
1912: Charles Fairbanks/Charles Evans Hughes (R)
1916: Charles Fairbanks/Charles Evan Hughes (R)
1920: Charles Evan Hughes/Elihu Root (R)
1924: Calvin Coolidge/Frank Lowden (R)
1928: Herbert Hoover/Charles Curtis (R)
1932: Franklin Roosevelt/John Nance Garner (D)
1936: Franklin Roosevelt/John Nance Garner (D)
1940: Wendell Willkie/Charles McNary (R)
1944: Wendell Willkie/Charles McNary (R)
1948: Douglas MacArthur/George Patton(R)
1952: Dwight Eisenhower/ Richard Nixon (R)
1956: Dwight Eisenhower/Richard Nixon (R)
1960: Richard Nixon/Nelson Rockefeller (R)
1964: Richard Nixon/Nelson Rockefeller (R)
1968: Nelson Rockefeller/Margaret Chase Smith (R)
1972: Nelson Rockefeller/Margaret Chase Smith (R)
1976: George McGovern/Sargent Shriver (D)
1980: George McGovern/Sargent Shriver (D)
1984: Ronald Reagan/George H.W. Bush (R)
1988: Ronald Reagan/George H.W. Bush (R)
1992: Ronald Reagan/George H.W. Bush (R)
1996: William Clinton/Al Gore (D)
2000: William Clinton/Al Gore (D)
2004: Al Gore/Joseph Lieberman (D)
2008: Al Gore/Joseph Lieberman (D)
2010: Robert Rubin/Norm Coleman (D)
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Old February 26th, 2011, 03:33 AM
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List of Presidents of the United States of America

1864: George McClellan/G.H Pendleton (D)
<<<<<<<<<SNIP>>>>>>>>>>>
1996: William Clinton/Al Gore (D)
2000: William Clinton/Al Gore (D)
2004: Al Gore/Joseph Lieberman (D)
2008: Al Gore/Joseph Lieberman (D)
2010: Robert Rubin/Norm Coleman (D)
So McClellan wins without the South having won its independence?
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Old February 26th, 2011, 04:32 AM
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Prime Ministers of Canada (1963-present) in a 'World Without (X)'* timeline:

1963-1968: Lester B. "Mike" Pearson (LPC)
1968-1972: Paul Martin Sr. (LPC)

1972-1977: Robert Stanfield (PC)
1977-1982: John Turner (LPC)
1982-1995: John Crosbie (PC)(1)
1995-1999: Laurence Decore (LPC)(2,3)
1999-2000: Jean Chretien (LPC)

2000-2009: Micheal "Mike" Harris (PC)
2009-(Inc): Danielle Smith (LPC)(4)


Leaders of the Opposition:

1963-1968: John Diefenbaker (PC)
1968-1972: Robert Stanfield (PC)

1972-1973: Paul Martin Sr. (LPC)
1973-1977: John Turner (LPC)

1977-1979: Robert Stanfield (PC)
1979-1982: John Crosbie (PC)

1982-1987: John Turner (LPC)
1987-1993: Jean Chretien (LPC)(5)
1993-1995: Laurence Decore (LPC)

1995-1996: John Crosbie (PC)
1996-2000: Micheal "Mike" Harris (PC)

2000-2003: Jean Chretien (LPC)
2003-2007: Paul Martin Jr. (LPC)(6)
2007-2009: Danielle Smith (LPC)

2009-2010: Micheal "Mike" Harris (PC)
2010-(Inc): Gordon Campbell (PC)


*POD Trudeau's 1949 trip to China unexpectedly became one-way only.

1 First PM to hail from Newfoundland.
2 First PM from Alberta. Unlike OTL, the LPC has remained competative west of the Great Lakes. OTOH the provincial capital of Ontario is still referred to as "Tory Toronto" for a reason...
3 Died in office. (Cancer)
4 First female PM.
5 Until his sudden ascension to the premiership in 1999 Mr. Chretien was regarded as the first leader of the Liberal Party since Confederation not to eventually become Prime Minister.
6 Following his resignation from parliament in 2007, he became the first Liberal leader since Confederation not to eventually be elected PM.
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Old March 1st, 2011, 05:22 AM
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I've decided to post the list of US Presidents from my most succesful Victoria game (OTL presidents from before the game start are included for completeness sake - BTW the game year is 1864 as of this writing):

1. George Washington 1789-1797
2. John Adams 1797-1801
3. Thomas Jefferson 1801-1809
4. James Madison 1809-1817
5. James Monroe 1817-1825
6. John Quincy Adams 1825-1829
7. Andrew Jackson 1829-1837
8. Martin Van Buren 1837-1841*
9. Richard Johnson 1841-1849
10. John Bell 1849-?

No Party, Federalist, Democratic-Republican, Jacksonian Democrat, Native American (AKA the Know-Nothings)

*Died in Office
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Old March 1st, 2011, 04:08 PM
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LBJ dies in 1955:

Richard Nixon (R) 1961-1965
Albert Gore, Sr. (D) 1965-1969
George Romney (R) 1969-1977
George Wallace (D) 1977-1981
George H. W. Bush (R) 1981-1989
Lloyd Bentsen (D) 1989-1997
Peter B. Wilson (R) 1997-2005
Albert Gore, Jr. (D) 2005-2013
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40. Ronald Reagan (R) 1981*
41. George H. W. Bush (R) 1981-1989
42. Mario Cuomo (D) 1989-1993
43. Bob Dole (R) 1993-2001
44. John F. Kennedy Jr. (D) 2001-2009
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Old March 1st, 2011, 06:52 PM
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Probably improbable considering the possibility of the success of such an event but let's say my list of Presidents comes from a universe where President Truman is successfully assassinated by those two Puerto Rican pro-independence activists Oscar Collazo and Griselio Torresola.

Harry Truman (Democrat) 1945 - 1950
Alben William Barkley (Democrat) 1950 - 1953
Robert Taft (Republican) 1953
Earl Warren (Republican) 1953 - 1965
George Wallace (Democrat) 1965 - 1969
Nelson Rockefeller (Republican) 1969 - 1977
James Earl Carter (Democrat) 1977 - 1985
Walter Mondale (Democrat) 1985 -1993
Harold Stassen (Republican) 1993 - 1995
Dwight David Eisenhower II (Republican) 1995 - 2005
Lincoln Davenport Chafee (Republican) 2005 - 2009
Howard Brush Dean III (Democrat) 2009 - 2013


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Old March 1st, 2011, 07:32 PM
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Candian Prime Ministers 1867-2010

1867: John A. MacDonald (Conservative)
1872: John A. MacDOnald (C)
1874: Edward Blake (Liberal)
1878: Edward Blake (L)
1882: Edward Blake (L)
1887: Edward Blake (L)
1891: Edward C. Bowers (L)
1896: Charles Tupper (C)
1900: Charles Tupper (C)
1904: Wilfrid Laurier (L)
1908: Robert Borden (C)
1911: Robert Borden (C)
1917: Robert Borden (Pro-War Conservative)
1921: Thomas Crerar (Progressive-Liberal Coalition)
1925: J. S. Woodsworth (Labour)
1926: Arthur Meighen (C)
1930: J. S. Woodsworth (L)
1935: J. S. Woodsworth (Labour-Communist-Liberal Coalition)
1940: William Lyon Mackenzie King (Centrist)
1945: Solon Earl Low (C)
1949: James Coldwell (L)
1953: George A. Drew (C)
1957: George A. Drew (C)
1958: George A. Drew (C)
1962: John Diefenbaker (C)
1963: Lester B. Pearson (New Liberal)
1965: Lester B. Pearson (NL)
1968: David Lewis (Worker's Party)
1972: David Lewis (WP)
1974: Pierre Trudeau (NL)
1979: Pierre Trudeau (NL)
1980: Pierre Trudeau (NL)
*assassinated 1983
1983: Brian Mulroney (Canada Party)
1988: Preston Manning (CP)
1992: Preston Manning (CP)
1997: Jean Chretien (NL)
2000: Joe Clark (C)
2005: Stephen Harper (C)
2010: Jack Layton (New Labour & Socialist Alliance)

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Old March 5th, 2011, 02:50 PM
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Ross Perot in '96

Ross Perot and his Reform Coalition wins the 1996 presidential election, as well as gaining several seats in the Senate and House. This results in the the rise of the Reform Party as a viable option, as well as the decline of the Republicans into a party just for the religious right and economic libertarians.

1992: Bill Clinton/Al Gore (Democrat)

-1st runner-up: Ross Perot/James Stockdale (Independent)
-2nd runner-up: George H.W. Bush/Dan Quayle (Republican)
1996: Ross Perot/Patrick Choate (Reform Coalition)
-1st runner-up: Bill Clinton/Al Gore (D)
-2nd runner-up: Bob Dole/Lamar Alexander (R)
2000: Ross Perot/Patrick Choate (RC)
-1st runner-up: Al Gore/Paul Wellstone (D)
-2nd runner-up: Lamar Alexander/George W. Bush (R)
2004: Howard Dean/Thomas Daschle (D)
-1st runner-up: John McCain/Joe Lieberman (RC)
-2nd runner-up: Pat Buchanan/Dick Armey (R)
2008: Howard Dean/Thomas Daschle (D)
-1st runner-up: Michael Bloomberg/Alan Keyes (RC)
-2nd runner-up: Newt Gingrich/Jim DeMint (R)
2012: Donald Trump/Lincoln Chafee (RC)
-1st runner-up: Thomas Daschle/Hillary Rodham (D)
-2nd runner-up: Ron Paul/Sarah Palin (R)
2016: Donald Trump/Lincoln Chafee (RC)
-1st runner-up: Tim Kain/Gavin Newsom (D)
-2nd runner-up: Sarah Palin/Michelle Bachman (R)
2020: Antonio Villaraigosa/Kristen Gillibrand (D)
-1st runner-up: Lincoln Chafee/Evan Bayh (RC)
-2nd runner-up: Rand Paul/Nikki Haley (R)
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Old March 5th, 2011, 06:03 PM
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George Wallace (Democrat) 1965 - 1969
Is this the 1958 Wallace, a strong ally of President Warren?

Alternate Dominion of Southern America Presidents (Threat from British Southern America caused an earlier Constitutional Convention)

1. George Washington (1785-1793)
2. John Jay (1793-1801)
3. Alexander Hamilton (1801-1809)
4. Thomas Jefferson (1809-1817)
5. James Madison (1817-1825)
6. Gilbert Lafayette (1825-1833)
7. Albert Gallatin (1833-1841)
8. Andrew Jackson (Feb. 2-April 4 1841)*
9. William Henry Harrison (1841-1845)*
10. Austin Houston (1845-1853)
11. Louis-Joseph Papineau (1853-1861)
12. Hamilton Davis (1861-1865)**
13. Abraham Norton (1865-1877)
14. Romualdo Pacheco (1877-1885)

15. Lawrence Joshua Chamberlain (1885-1893)
16. Robert Lincoln (1893-1900)**
17. Theodore Roosevelt (1900-1917)
18. Francisco Villa (1917-1925)
19. Herbert Ford (1925-1932)
20. Franklin D. Roosevelt (1933-1946)*
21. Bill Rogers (1946-1957)
22. Omar Bradley (1957-1965)
23. Lou Armstrong (1965-1973)
24. Ken Inouye (1973-1981)

25. Ronald Nixon (1981-1989)
26. Elle Richards (1989-1997)
27. Oliver Specter (1997-2001)
28. Jeremiah Church (2001-2009)
29. Barack Obama (2009-)

Independent (all of them are Federalist-leaning)
Federalist
Republican

*Died in office
**Assassinated


The Adamses are the first and second Chief Justices BTW
Benjamin Franklin was the first Vice President and the job is more important than OTL.
I got a little lazy towards the end, though the Obama thing was a satire on AH itself.

TR runs again TL (earlier WWI leads to him seeking a fourth term)

26. Theodore Roosevelt / Charles W. Fairbanks (Republican) 1901-1917
27. Oscar Underwood / Herbert Hoover (Democratic) 1917-1921

28. Leonard Wood / Charles Curtis (Republican) 1921-1923*
29. Charles Curtis / Hiram Johnson (Republican) 1923-1929
30. Henry Ford / James Watson (Republican) 1929-1933
31. Franklin D. Roosevelt / John Nance Garner (Democratic) 1933-1945
/ Harry Truman (Democratic) 1945
32. Harry Truman / Eleanor Roosevelt (Democratic) 1945-1950*
33.
Eleanor Roosevelt / Henry Wallace (Democratic) 1950-1957
34. Omar Bradley / Paul Robeson (Democratic) 1957-1965
35. Nile Kinnick / Richard Nixon (Republican) 1965-1973
36. Ron Dellums / George Wallace (Democratic) 1973-1981
37. Richard Nixon / John Connally (Republican) 1981-1989
38. John Connally / Donald Rumsfeld 1989-1993

39. Mario Cuomo / Hillary Blythe (Democratic) 1993-2001
40. Hillary Blythe / Bill Richardson (Democratic) 2001-2005
41. Jeb Bush / Bobby Jindal 2005-2009
42. Antonio Villaraigosa / Al Gore (Democratic) 2009-

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Scoop Jackson in '76

1976: Henry "Scoop" Jackson/Jerry Brown (D)
1980: Henry "Scoop" Jackson/Jerry Brown (D)
1981: Jerry Brown/Gary Hart (D)*
1984: Jerry Brown/Gary Hart (D)

1988: Harold Stassen/Jack Kemp (R)
1992: Harold Stassen/ Jack Kemp (R)

1996: Bill Clinton/Bob Kerrey (D)
2000: Bill Clinton/Bob Kerrey (D)

2004: Dick Cheney/Elizabeth Dole (R)
2006: Elizabeth Dole/Jeb Bush (R)**

2008: Richard Dean Anderson/Hillary Clinton (D)***
2012: Richard Dean Anderson/Hillary Clinton (D)
2016: Victoria Kennedy/Jesse Jackson Jr. (D)

*Scoop Jackson dies three months after his second inauguration.
**Cheney impeached
***President MacGyver O'Neill (two L's) for the win!!!

Johnson runs for a second term/Bobby Kennedy lives

1968: Lyndon B. Johnson/Hubert Humphrey (D)
1971: Hubert Humphrey/Robert F. Kennedy (D)*
1972: Hubert Humphrey/Robert F. Kennedy (D)

1976: Ronald Reagan/Bob Dole (R)
1980: Robert F. Kennedy/Birch Bayh (D)
1984: Robert F. Kennedy/Birch Bayh (D)

1988: Howard Baker/Paul Laxalt (R)
1992: Howard Baker/Paul Laxalt (R)
1996: Paul Laxalt/Jack Kemp (R)

2000: Bob Graham/John Edwards (D)
2004: John McCain/Steve Forbes (R)
2008: John McCain/Steve Forbes (R)

2012: Russ Feingold/Barack Obama (D)
2016: Russ Feingold/Barack Obama (D)


*Johnson dies earlier due to the stress caused by the job
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Bill Clinton in '88
1988: Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Joe Biden (D-DE)
1992: Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Joe Biden (D-DE)

1996: Steve Forbes (R-NY)/John McCain (R-AZ)
2000: Steve Forbes (R-NY)/John McCain (R-AZ)

2004: Al Gore (D-TN)/Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH)
2008: Al Gore (D-TN)/Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH)
2012: Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH)/Bill Richardson (D-NM)


1988 map: http://www.alternatehistory.com/disc...6&postcount=37

1992-2012 map: http://www.alternatehistory.com/disc...6&postcount=40
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1976: Gerald R. Ford (R)
1980: Jerry Brown (D)
1984: Jerry Brown (D)

1988: Robert J. Dole (R)
1992: Robert J. Dole (R)

1996: Al Gore (D)
2000: John McCain (R)
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