Map of the Fortnight: Main thread

[Muwatalli']

The true Believers
and
In the wake of Giants

[TurkishCapybara]

Proposed again:

Originally Posted by TurkishCapybara

Sunshine, Lollipops and..

Make a Utopia/Optimistic world.

[QuoProQuid]

Originally Posted by Krall

Hmm, so you can show any extinct nation or civilisation, provided it didn't become extinct the same way it did in OTL, as interpreted by foreign historians trying to piece together how it might have looked in its heyday?

I rather like that idea, actually.

Glad you do. Once I finish with my current load of work I might actually try to contribute to the Map of the Fortnight.

[jmberry]

What would the restrictions be for the Earth-2 challenge?

[Krall]

Originally Posted by jmberry

What would the restrictions be for the Earth-2 challenge?

Both future and ASB maps would be allowed, especially since all maps would be ASB. Any history that's meant to be plausible can't be implausible, I suppose, but that's about it.

[Krall]

It looks like "My Name is Ozymandias" is the most popular challenge suggestion at the moment, with "The True Believers" close behind. If "The True Believers", or some other suggestion, gets much more popular before I post up the new threads tomorrow then I'll use that, but it certainly looks like the next contest round will be "My Name is Ozymandias".

The current contest will remain open to new entries until I post the new threads, as per usual, so if anyone wants to get in a last minute entry, now's the time!

[My Username is Inigo Montoya]

I support The True Believers.

[Ares96]

I think "My Name is Ozymandius" sounds good.

[Future8]

I also support The True Believers though I probably will not get to participate this time.

[Iori]

Throught the Mirror Darkly / The Hatters Parliament;

Show a world or nation in which an OTL ideology/ies not seen as bad has/ve been taken to a twisted extreme, IE anti-Racism leading to it being illegal for whites to marry whites and blacks to marry blacks etc.

[Krall]

Originally Posted by JaneStillman

I support The True Believers.

Originally Posted by Ares96

I think "My Name is Ozymandius" sounds good.

Originally Posted by Future8

I also support The True Believers though I probably will not get to participate this time.

Ah, unfortunately this makes both suggestions even in terms of support.

I'm going to go with "The True Believers" for MotF 56, partially so that it doesn't become one of those suggestions that is always rather popular but never gets used, and partially because I personally think it's a bit better than "My Name is Ozymandius".

I'll have the new threads up later today!

Originally Posted by Iori

Throught the Mirror Darkly / The Hatters Parliament;

Show a world or nation in which an OTL ideology/ies not seen as bad has/ve been taken to a twisted extreme, IE anti-Racism leading to it being illegal for whites to marry whites and blacks to marry blacks etc.

I apologise in advance but, as a pedant, I must note that you should have used "e.g." instead of "i.e.".

I'm not really sure if this suggestion would produce good results - there really aren't that many OTL ideologies seen almost universally as good that could be taken to twisted extremes, apart from "anti-(insert form of prejudice here)", and making plausible timelines to produce these extreme ideologies would be extremely difficult. It's also not really the kind of thing that can be shown on a map.

[Iori]

Originally Posted by Krall

I apologise in advance but, as a pedant, I must note that you should have used "e.g." instead of "i.e.".

Hey, I've been up along time, and it was dark out (early morning), so I'm allowed to make mistakes.

I'm not really sure if this suggestion would produce good results - there really aren't that many OTL ideologies seen almost universally as good that could be taken to twisted extremes, apart from "anti-(insert form of prejudice here)", and making plausible timelines to produce these extreme ideologies would be extremely difficult. It's also not really the kind of thing that can be shown on a map.

Well what I meant was ideologies not nearly Universally viewed as bad like Fascism, Nazism, whatever Pol Pot was etc..

Personally I was imagining two different maps when I thought of it, one showing a country divided into districts with a scale of how far along they'd each 'Progressed' and another, showing areas that were being 'de-nationalized'.

[Kalan]

I have a question: What is a religion and how do we discriminate them from ideologies? In particular, I'm interested wether Confucianism and Taoism qualify as religion

[B_Munro]

Originally Posted by Krall

I'm not really sure if this suggestion would produce good results - there really aren't that many OTL ideologies seen almost universally as good that could be taken to twisted extremes, apart from "anti-(insert form of prejudice here)", and making plausible timelines to produce these extreme ideologies would be extremely difficult. It's also not really the kind of thing that can be shown on a map.

Seem more like a political satire universe than anything else...

BTW, would you allow DBWI maps in the new contest?

Bruce

[Krall]

Originally Posted by Kalan

I have a question: What is a religion and how do we discriminate them from ideologies? In particular, I'm interested wether Confucianism and Taoism qualify as religion

Hmm, generally I'd rather have a wider definition of religion rather than a narrower one, but I don't think Confucianism would count as a religion - it's more a philosophy as to how one should live one's life, and doesn't really involve a system of worship. The definition of Taoism is somewhat vague, but I'd allow it since it relates to or encompasses Chinese religious tradition and a system of worship.

If I appear to be misinformed or confused about Confucianism and/or Taoism please do correct me - but that's how I see them at the moment.

I'd also like to note that making a map about a religious sect (e.g. Sunni Islam) instead of a religion as a whole is permissible. I'll edit the challenge description to include that.

Originally Posted by B_Munro

BTW, would you allow DBWI maps in the new contest?

Bruce

So, a map from the perspective of an alternate history timeline, speculating that the PoD that created them had gone the other way? I don't really see why that shouldn't be allowed, though it is a bit confusing - go for it!

[tormsen]

Originally Posted by Krall

Hmm, generally I'd rather have a wider definition of religion rather than a narrower one, but I don't think Confucianism would count as a religion - it's more a philosophy as to how one should live one's life, and doesn't really involve a system of worship. The definition of Taoism is somewhat vague, but I'd allow it since it relates to or encompasses Chinese religious tradition and a system of worship.

If I appear to be misinformed or confused about Confucianism and/or Taoism please do correct me - but that's how I see them at the moment.

Confucianism is a part of the Chinese religious tradition, it involves worship of Heaven as a component and is not just a philosophical tradition. It kind of straddles the line between religion and philosophy, but I wouldn't exclude it by any means.

[Krall]

Originally Posted by tormsen

Confucianism is a part of the Chinese religious tradition, it involves worship of Heaven as a component and is not just a philosophical tradition. It kind of straddles the line between religion and philosophy, but I wouldn't exclude it by any means.

Alright then, I'll take your word for it and allow it.

[Kaiphranos]

Soooo... I'm not the only one working on an entry for this round, am I?

[Turquoise Blue]

Here is a idea for a future MoF.

In the Footsteps of Illustrious Men.
Show the world ten years after a famous, world-changing, person died. Future is OK, ASB no. The famous person has to be ATL, but they can be OTL if they went a different way.

[QuoProQuid]

Originally Posted by Kaiphranos

Soooo... I'm not the only one working on an entry for this round, am I?

I'm working on one.