Map Thread VII

[Faeelin]

Originally Posted by B_Munro

The scenario once you think about it, not so much the books themselves. The French have apparently conquered all of Europe and a large part of Russia (all of England has been incorporated into the French state) and moved their capital to St. Petersburg, although there is mention of a seperate Netherlands. New Britain has conquered all the Americas, and the Catholic Latin American population is apparently on reservations or largely exterminated (the author was a bit unclear). The political model is apparently Czarist Russia rather than the Uk or Prussia, with famines and a violent revolutionary movement (and which after it take over, narrowly avoids falling under the control of a Stalin-analogue. Wankiness and poor analogies.

Bruce

Ah, pity. I stopped reading after it became clear the author hates America, but I almost kept reading for New Britain.

[8Deer]

MoF 25 entry. The Aztecs defeat Cortes, but it is very costly. The Aztec priests believe that the Spaniards were sent by the gods to punish them, so they step up the amount of sacrificing. Armed with guns by English and Portugese traders, the Aztecs conquer their rivals the Tarascans and the Tlaxcala. Tens of thousands are sacrificed and many more are enslaved. The Aztecs then expand north against the Chichimeca barbarians. These people are considered inferior to the Aztecs, so they are treated especially badly.

The current year is 1725. The Aztec Empire is on the brink of collapse, due to the fact that the Mexica ruling class are hated by everyone. Despite this, the tlatoani is preparing for a massive invasion of Aztlan, the legendary homeland of the Nahua peoples. Whether the tlatoani is ignorant of the sad state of the Empire, or whether he chooses to ignore it is unknown. It is certain, though, that the end of the Empire is coming. The only question is if whatever comes out of the Empire's collapse will be better or worse than the Empire itself.

EDIT: Decided it wasn't dystopian enough, so I removed it from the contest.

[CaliBoy1990]

Originally Posted by B_Munro

Thanks muchly!

Bruce

You've always made some pretty interesting maps, IMHO.

[Atesh]

I started a union card, here is the beginning.

[Imperator Frank]

Originally Posted by Atesh

I started a union card, here is the beginning.

It could use more unions.

[Glegg]

Originally Posted by Atesh

I started a union card, here is the beginning.

Juste un truc : en anglais, ça se dit "map"

A part ça, idée sympa : faudrait juste que tu redessine les bordures des pays.

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Juste one thing : in english, we say "map"

Except this, nice idee : should just draw other borders.

[Philip]

Originally Posted by Atesh

I started a union card, here is the beginning.

Bridge-wank!

[JJDXB]

Originally Posted by Atesh

I started a union card, here is the beginning.

I could do with more unions too

Just take South Sudan out of the equation, since its primarily Christian. I think.

[chris456]

trying out different communist countries (the dots are ssr):

[B_Munro]

Here's my map for the current contest. First, the blather...

A somewhat more intense Spanish Flu epidemic butterflies the leadership of the US and USSR from the 20s on, and a somewhat different WWII is fought, leading to Red Army on Rhine. China goes Communist as OTL, and a Cold War even more tense than OTL ensues. The balloon goes up in 1971.

The US suffered horrendous damage, especially in the mid-west, some areas of the east coast, and California. As a result of a government lopped off some ways down the chain of succession and conflict between the armed forces leadership and the left-ish (supposed) new President, two essentially independent successor governments emerged in the North and in the South and West, and when the one took a turn to the left in its emergency measures, while the other took a turn to the right, the US essentially broke in two, although it took some years for it to become official. The Republic of America, going with the old "if you can't beat them..." chestnut, has become a left-wing dictatorship, although less ideological and more technocratic than their Chinese allies: indeed, they would be more natural allies with the Soviets, if it weren't for that little nuking thing.

The USSR, although suffering casualties even higher than the US, failed to collapse, instead its surviving leadership - and much of the surviving population- simply left the devastated regions, forcing at atomic gunpoint the less-damaged Mediterranean and Middle Eastern nations to extend them hospitality. Allying with the local Communist parties, they settled in and continued the Long Struggle to bring about global socialist success.

The less badly damaged east of the USSR broke away as a seperate regime, and allied itself with the Chinese, which having stayed out of the war only had to deal with fallout and thereby rather gained in relative power. The UAS consider themselves the _true_ successors to the old USSR and think of the new Soviet Union as dreafully bourgeois. The Chinese, with UAS help, have modernized in an old-fashioned Stalinist-Kruschevite manner up to about OTL 1970s USSR standards of development (with loads of ICBMs).

Ideological confict between the Chinese/American block and the Soviets left space for the emergence of a third leftist movement, the third-world Agrarian Populists, which vary from West India, which is a respectable industrial power and allows from the Soviet or Chinese point of view an alarming amount of Capitalism, to the almost Pol-Potesque unpleasantness of Greater Ghana. The weakest of the three groupings, the APs attempt to maintain strict neutralism while maintaining an almost universal Nation at Arms to discourage invasion.

Aside from the Communists, there are the right-wing anti-Socialist states, the powerful military dictatorship of the USA [1], the authoritarian Confederation, the racially segregated South Africans, and the paranoid and Very Anti-Asian New Australians, plus a few dibs and dabs of territory here and there. Although capitalist, their economies suffer from limited trade, corruption, the burden of massive security states, and in the case of S. Africa, serious underuse of their human potential.

The world is probably doomed. There are more nuclear weapons than there were at the Cold War 1980s peak OTL, with no less than 14 atomic arsenals, six of them large. Pollution is terrible, and global warming marches forward while coal is burned in huge amounts. The Chinese and the People's republic of India are pressing against the limits of their systems, and if the Monsoon is interrupted by climate change, Bad Things will happen. The technocratic Soviets and the US are actually making some progress with computerized planning, mass food production in indoor greenhouses, etc. but things are overall a mess. Apocalyptic Christianity is on the rise in the US. Glimmerings of hope exist, in the semi-civilized Socialism of central Africa and West India, in the democratic undercurrents that still flow in parts of Europe and North America, in the upcoming 2011 world Peace Conference, once again trying to find a formula to shrink nuclear arsenals. But will anything break the cycle of hatred and paranoia before environmental collapse, global nuclear war, or perhaps global nuclear war triggered by environmental collapse?

Bruce

[1] It does have elections, but there is only one legal party - the fusion "American Party", which generally asks "how high?" when the military says "jump."

[B_Munro]

And now, map.

Bruce

[Krall]

Originally Posted by chris456

trying out different communist countries (the dots are ssr):

Do you mean the dots are communist rebels?

[Imperator Frank]

Originally Posted by B_Munro

And now, map.

Bruce

all I can say is: O_O

[chris456]

yes and the black ones are ssr. the reds are rebellions

[Emperor-of-New-Zealand]

Originally Posted by B_Munro

necessary evil

Brilliant

I always have wondered though. In such violent post-apocalyptic worlds, wouldn't communism function quite nicely? I mean, with scarce resources and such..

[B_Munro]

Originally Posted by Emperor-of-New-Zealand

Brilliant

I always have wondered though. In such violent post-apocalyptic worlds, wouldn't communism function quite nicely? I mean, with scarce resources and such..

It'll still work crappyly, but since everyone else is screwed up, too, it looks better by comaparison...

Bruce

[rvbomally]

Ah, touching on my personal dystopia of nuclear hell, a crushed (and partially communist) US and communist world rule. Good work, amazing as always!

[Ephraim Ben Raphael]

My MOF Entry:

In 1962 an incident concerning the placement of Nuclear Missles in Communist Cuba triggered a Global Thermonuclear War. Between the USSR and the United States civilization was all but destroyed. But it would get worse.

The bleeding sickness was rumoured to be a biological weapon accidentally released by one of the superpowers, though no one ever knew for sure. Over a period of five years it swept the globe, with a 96% fatality rate even the handful who survived the disease found themselves wandering alone to be quickly killed off by a combination of environmental hazards and the simple fact that the population density was now to low to be self-replicating.

By 2010 mankind is reduced to only a couple surviving pockets of humanity. Ironically the largest of these is in a place that was never meant to maintain human life- Antarctica. The researchers and military personel present on the southernmost continent survived the "End" and the bleeding sickness that followed thanks to their isolation and unimportance. Surviving on the seeds of antarctic grasses, lichens, and sea weed, as well as fauna such as penguins, seals and sea birds their descendants continue to eke out a precarious existence, frequently flirting with extinction yet remaining the largest single population of H. Sapiens on Earth with continent wide numbers hovering around 20,000.

The largest single settlement in Antarctica is the city of Jubany in the south Shetland Islands with a population of almost 1,500, followed by the city of New London (former Base D) with 1,000 inhabitants. Politics in the Antarctic Peninsula are complicated with the most complex states on offshore islands and organized villages dotting the mainland. Deception (officially the Kingdom of Britain) has fallen from its dominant position due to volcanic eurptions in its capitol, but the lure of warmth and sulfur deposits keep them coming back to Deception Island. The "Republic" of Jubany is on the rise with its own sources of sulfur for gunpowder and trade with the mining villages of San Martin that provides it with copper. At the same time the Kingdom of Arturo Prat and the "Republic" of New America (founded by an American vessel that was in the area in 1962) are minor powers seeking to disrupt the established order by extending influence into the independent villages of Esperanza, Higgins, New England, and Paradise.

Antarctican society is exterememly harsh, cannibalism is the rule (now incorporated into a somewhat unplesant version of Christianity, "this is my body and this is my blood" etc) not the exception and the sick or elderly are regularly killed for their flesh, a practice present even in the more "civilized" island kingdoms. The first steps have begun towards domesticating penguins and technology is strange, gunpowder is used in a very primitive manner alongside seal-skin kayaks and hunting spears, and basic electricity exists in a couple places next to igloos and copper swords.

[Communist Wizard]

B_Munro: High quality as always.
Ephraim's map gets points for originality.

[Ephraim Ben Raphael]

Originally Posted by Communist Wizard

B_Munro: High quality as always.
Ephraim's map gets points for originality.

Yes! I am original!