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Old December 18th, 2010, 11:36 PM
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I just had a major computer failure and a timeline I was working on, so all I'm left with is my memories and this map. IIRC, it's set in the mid 1700s, just after the successful Jacobite revolution and Stuart Restoration.

The POD is that Peter the Great is killed as a child, and his half sister Sophia takes the throne. As a result of this, the Great Northern War goes rather differently, and Sweden wins.

Sometime later, Frederick pisses off Poland-Lithuania by proclaiming himself King of Prussia. Sweden isn't too happy about this, so it joins Poland-Lithuania in a war against Frederick, who has gathered several North German states to his side. Frederick is killed, Prussia returned to Poland-Lithuania as a Duchy, Brandenburg broken in two, and large amounts of northern Germany annexed by Sweden.

Butterflies ensue, (I cant remember what they were at the moment) and Philip wins, eventually becoming the monarch of both Franc and Spain, though Aragon breaks away under Charles and fights off Philip, declaring it's independence once more.

Aragon quickly becomes involved in the East Indies business, setting up several trade posts in India and conquering several Native Indonesian Kingdoms, as well as ousting the Portuguese from Ceylon.

With French help, the Jacobite uprising of '45 occurs earlier and is more successful, returning Charles Stuart to the throne of England and Scotland, and driving George into exile in the Americas, where he set up that nation on the East Coast.

The Bourbon Empire is now closely allied to Britain, and about to side with them in a major European conflict growing out of the Fourth Northern War, when Denmark and Russia, along with much of Germany have another shot at dislodging Sweden from their Baltic hegemony.

I've slightly neglected South America and Africa here, so they're not totally up to date with the rest of the map.
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Old December 19th, 2010, 12:43 AM
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I just hadthey're not totally up to date with the rest of the map.
Light blue in northern italy= Venice or what?
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Old December 19th, 2010, 12:49 AM
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Yes, that's Venice. Though I'm not sure if it should still be there at this point. I think it was invaded by the Austrians during the war of the Spanish Succession.
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Old December 19th, 2010, 01:07 AM
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Old December 19th, 2010, 02:21 AM
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So here is my first attempt at a "realistic" looking map, based on a map from an old timeline I never finished. Most of the graphical elements are copypasta'd from other people's maps, but I was really just trying to see what I could do. I think it turned out pretty well myself.

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Old December 19th, 2010, 02:25 AM
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So here is my first attempt at a "realistic" looking map, based on a map from an old timeline I never finished. Most of the graphical elements are copypasta'd from other people's maps, but I was really just trying to see what I could do. I think it turned out pretty well myself.

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Pretty good, but why does New York give up the southern extent of its western claim?
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Old December 19th, 2010, 02:49 AM
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Pretty good, but why does New York give up the southern extent of its western claim?
What, in real life? Because they never really had a realistic claim on it anyway and relinquished the claim in favor of the Federal Government in the hopes Virginia would do the same.
If you're referring just to something on the map, I'm afraid you'll have to rephrase the question, as I don't understand.
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Old December 19th, 2010, 02:56 AM
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I think NY actually had a claim extending a little bit farther south than the map shows.
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Old December 19th, 2010, 02:58 AM
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I think NY actually had a claim extending a little bit farther south than the map shows.
Oh, well I don't know then. I based this map, from what I remember, on a handful of maps from old textbooks and things I found online. I can't remember if there was any reason for it.
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Old December 19th, 2010, 03:18 AM
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Oh, well I don't know then. I based this map, from what I remember, on a handful of maps from old textbooks and things I found online. I can't remember if there was any reason for it.
It looks nice though!
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Old December 19th, 2010, 03:19 AM
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What, in real life? Because they never really had a realistic claim on it anyway and relinquished the claim in favor of the Federal Government in the hopes Virginia would do the same.
If you're referring just to something on the map, I'm afraid you'll have to rephrase the question, as I don't understand.
The New York claim had as its suthern border the Tennessee River.
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Old December 19th, 2010, 03:22 AM
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It looks nice though!
That it does.
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Old December 19th, 2010, 03:28 AM
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Those claims make no sense!
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Old December 19th, 2010, 03:30 AM
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Those claims make no sense!
Who knew that history briefly featured New York wank?
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Old December 19th, 2010, 03:33 AM
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I think Mass and Conn are more insane claiming landlocked territories they don't even border.
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Old December 19th, 2010, 03:59 AM
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I think Mass and Conn are more insane claiming landlocked territories they don't even border.
Ah, the cunning use of flags.
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Old December 19th, 2010, 04:05 AM
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Flags?
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Old December 19th, 2010, 04:17 AM
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Flags?
I think he means planting flags on random spots of land.
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I think he means planting flags on random spots of land.
Ah, ok.
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