Winston Churchil killed at Gallipoli

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Winston Churchil lord of Admirality realizsed the things were not going well.... Suddenly he felt an explosion below the ship he was on.... He saw frantic crewman givig repairs the ship had hit a mine and was now sinking horrified Churchill could do nothing the mine struck the keel of the ship and soon it sunk..... There were no survivors it was a dark day for Britain......





So what happens now fellow AH Comers.

[Cook]

I’d say what was the First Sea Lord doing on a ship anywhere near Gallipoli and on anything smaller than a battleship?

If you want to kill off Churchill just have the taxi going a little faster when it hits him in 1931.

[Cecil]

Didnt quite a few BBs sink when they were hit by mines at gallipoli?

[Torn but Flying]

I can't see that happening - maybe he either accompanies Kitchener to Russia or goes in his place, and gets killed when HMS Hampshire sinks though.

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Alright so in 1931 taxi goes faster. It hits him, he dies what happens in WWII

[MrP]

Originally Posted by Cook

I’d say what was the First Sea Lord doing on a ship anywhere near Gallipoli and on anything smaller than a battleship?

If you want to kill off Churchill just have the taxi going a little faster when it hits him in 1931.

Or have him killed when he's in the front lines in the trenches on the Western Front. I do love his reason for going to the front rather than staying in HQ. HQ was "dry" so to have a drink, one had to go to the dangerous bit. Booze before safety.

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Originally Posted by MrP

Or have him killed when he's in the front lines in the trenches on the Western Front. I do love his reason for going to the front rather than staying in HQ. HQ was "dry" so to have a drink, one had to go to the dangerous bit. Booze before safety.

So will anyone be interested in a TL about this if you guys are Ill post a Tl in this thread.

[pipisme]

I would be interested in reading a TL in which Winston Churchill is killed in the First World War.

[Gustavus Adolphus]

K I need help what battle did Churchil have the most danger of dying in.

[Awilla the Hun]

Not WW1, but I read in John O'Farrell's "An Utterly Impartial History of Britain" (so, an ultra reliable source!) that Churchill intended to join his soldiers at D-Day, attacking the beaches alongside them. This was the last time the British Monarch ever ordered the Prime Minister not to do something.

[Don Grey]

Originally Posted by Gustavus Adolphus

K I need help what battle did Churchil have the most danger of dying in.

Im intrested in what would happen if churchhill died in ww1 era and how it would effect britian in ww2. But when i see a thread where i read that the first lord of the admiralty is ona ship in gallipoli or in the trenches in the western front my head hurts. It ruins the quality of the TL.

Why dont we have a drunk churchhill (i know its so ASB) at his house fall down the stairs hit his head and die of internal bleeding how about that ?

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Originally Posted by Awilla the Hun

Not WW1, but I read in John O'Farrell's "An Utterly Impartial History of Britain" (so, an ultra reliable source!) that Churchill intended to join his soldiers at D-Day, attacking the beaches alongside them. This was the last time the British Monarch ever ordered the Prime Minister not to do something.

Lol Ok so Ill have him die in the trenches due to disease or gets shot, but what PM would take over in hitlers reign if Churchill is dead, what's the implication on relation beetween Britain and Nazi Germany....

[MrP]

Originally Posted by Don Grey

Im intrested in what would happen if churchhill died in ww1 era and how it would effect britian in ww2. But when i see a thread where i read that the first lord of the admiralty is ona ship in gallipoli or in the trenches in the western front my head hurts. It ruins the quality of the TL.

Why dont we have a drunk churchhill (i know its so ASB) at his house fall down the stairs hit his head and die of internal bleeding how about that ?

He really was in the trenches after Gallipoli, old boy.

Western front

Churchill was First Lord of the Admiralty at the start of the First World War, but was obliged to leave the war cabinet after the disastrous Battle of Gallipoli. He attempted to obtain an appointment as a brigade commander, but settled for command of a battalion. After spending some time as a Major with the 2nd Battalion, Grenadier Guards, he was appointed Lieutenant-Colonel, commanding the 6th Battalion, Royal Scots Fusiliers (part of the 9th (Scottish) Division), on 1 January 1916. Correspondence with his wife shows that his intent in taking up active service was to rehabilitate his reputation, but this was balanced by the serious risk of being killed. As a commander he continued to exhibit the reckless daring which had been a hallmark of all his military actions, although he disapproved strongly of the mass slaughter involved in many western front actions.[48]

Lord Deedes opined to a gathering of the Royal Historical Society in 2001 why Churchill went to the front line: "He was with Grenadier Guards, who were dry at battalion headquarters. They very much liked tea and condensed milk, which had no great appeal to Winston, but alcohol was permitted in the front line, in the trenches. So he suggested to the colonel that he really ought to see more of the war and get into the front line. This was highly commended by the colonel, who thought it was a very good thing to do."[49]

[lothaw]

Originally Posted by MrP

Or have him killed when he's in the front lines in the trenches on the Western Front. I do love his reason for going to the front rather than staying in HQ. HQ was "dry" so to have a drink, one had to go to the dangerous bit. Booze before safety.

Haha, could call the TL "For want of a drink."

[Kelenas]

Wouldn't Churchill's death in WW1 cause butterflies earlier than WW2?

- Kelenas

[Grimm Reaper]

Ah, Awilla, George VI was far too subtle for that.

When Eisenhower and other top Allied commanders realized Churchill was serious and would not be easily dissuaded King George VI told them not to worry and that he would take care of the problem. He spoke with Churchill, learned of Churchill's plans(which he already knew), and told Winston that this was a smashing idea. In fact, now that he considered it, he would go with Winston that day.

Churchill got the hint.

[A.M. Turtle]

Well if you want Churchill dead he was running around in South Africa buring the Boer War. Perhaps he is shot when he escapes?

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Yeah It would Anyway here's the TL.


July: Churchil had a bit too much too drink and he enlisted for active service, his mission stop the German advance into France. He beleives he was destined to crush the damm Krauts he limped to the neareast recruitment center under a fake name, Private Ronald, Bates, he was signed in and sent to the Somme, Churchil woke up the next day on a train, at first he was shocked, the ell happened here mates why am I on a war train, his mates snickered, well Ronald were gonna face the Germans atthe Somme."
" Bloody ell" Churchil yelled with a start I'm churchil former first lord of Admirality, the mates laughed, sure you are. Churchil was stunned....
" You damm wankers get me off this train," everyone ignored him.


July second Churchil was stuck in the trenches eaten biscuits that had worms in them, thousands died and his regiment was being sent out next, no one beleives him to be churchil, " Blast it, I shouldve never gotten drunk." Churchils friend Mcguire came in, " well it's our turn storm the German trenches come on pal let's win, Churchil took a huge gulp of beer and became drunk, " ahh who gives a damm" he got his enfeild and went to front lines, the order was given and churchil charged like a madman, suddenly he felt blood across his chest, he felt pain and then he lost consiousness, that day Ronald who was in reality churchil was shot and had his head blown off by the Germans, his family weeper and his father became heartbroken and suffered a heart attack......


What do you guys think.

[Don Lardo]

Originally Posted by Kelenas

Wouldn't Churchill's death in WW1 cause butterflies earlier than WW2?

His death most certainly would cause major butterflies well before WW2. There's the Gold Standard decision he made as Chancellor of the Exchequer for example.

Of course we're dealing with an OP who put the First Lord of the Admiralty aboard a warship off Gallipoli during the landings, so historical knowledge, intelligent creativity, and plausibility most certainly do not apply.

Churchill can be plausibly killed several times well before the taxi cab accident in 1931 or even his service in the trenches during WW1. Aside from his participation as correspondent in Cuba, the Sudan Campaign, and Boer War, he was a sickly child and had a health crisis of sorts while at Sandhurst.

[Gustavus Adolphus]

So what do you think of his death.