List of US Presidents, 1960 to 2020

[Brian Roastbeef]

1788: Benedict Arnold / George Clinton (independent)
1792: Benedict Arnold / George Clinton (Unity Party)
1796: Benedict Arnold / George Clinton (U)
1800: George Clinton / John Adams (U)
1804: George Clinton / Thomas Jefferson (U-Democratic-Republican)
1808: Alexander Hamilton / Aaron Burr (U)
1810: Alexander Hamilton / Rufus King (U) (Unfortunately, the Hamilton-Burr duel occurred due to the two having issues)
1811: Rufus King (U) (Hamilton resigns in shame)
1812: DeWitt Clinton / Nathaniel Macon (Federalist Party) (Rufus King defeated soundly)
1816: DeWitt Clinton / Nathaniel Macon (F)
1820: Nathaniel Macon / John Pope (F)
1824: John Q. Adams / James Madison (D-R)
1828: John Pope / Henry Clay (Federalist Party)
1832: John Pope / Henry Clay (Federalist Party)
1836: Andrew Jackson / John C. Calhoun (Democratic) (Republican was dropped off Party name)
1840: Andrew Jackson / John C. Calhoun (D)
1844: Andrew Jackson / John C. Calhoun (D) [observing the three-term limit unofficially set by Arnold]
1848: Lewis Cass / Charles F. Adams (Free Republic) (Opposition to Jacksonian Policy)
1852: John C. Calhoun / Milliard Fillmore (D)
1856: Henry Clay / Abraham Lincoln (F)
1860: Henry Clay / Abraham Lincoln (F)
1861: Abraham Lincoln (F) Henry Clay dies of old age.
1864: Abraham Lincoln / Hannibal Hamlin (F) / Alexander Stephens / Thomas Moore (D) [unresolved election dispute]
1865: Abraham Lincoln / Hannibal Hamlin (F) (Results settled by Speaker of the House. Stephen and Moore head southern states who secede in protest)
1868: Abraham Lincoln / Hannibal Hamlin (F)
1872: Hannibal Hamlin / Ulysses S. Grant (F)
1876: Thomas A. Hendricks / Robert E. Lee* (D)
1880: Horatio Seymour / Schuyler Colfax (F)
1884: Horatio Seymour / Schuyler Colfax (F)
1888: Samuel J. Tilden / William Hayden English(D)
1892: Isaac P. Gray / Elihu Root (F)
1894: Elihu Root (F)
1896: Elihu Root / John Sherman (F)
1900: Samuel J. Tilden / Adlai Stevenson (D)
1904: Adlai Stevenson / Grover Cleveland (D)
1908: Luke E. Wright / William H. Taft (F)
1912: Luke E. Wright / William H. Taft (F)
1916: Alton B. Parker / Charles W. Fairbanks (Conservative Party)
1920: Alton B. Parker / Calvin Coolidge (C)
1924: Alton B. Parker / Calvin Coolidge (C)
1927: Calvin Coolidge (C)
1928: Calvin Coolidge / Herbert Hoover (C)
1932: Calvin Coolidge / Herbert Hoover (C)
1936: Huey Long / Francis Townsend (Popular Federalist Party)
1940: Herbert Hoover / Robert Taft (C)
1944:Henry Wallace/ Fiorello La Guardia (PFP)
1948: Thomas E. Dewey / Earl Warren (C)
1952: Thomas E. Dewey / Earl Warren (C)
1956: John Foster Dulles / George F. Kennan (C)
1960: Goodwin Knight / J. Caleb Boggs (PFP)
1964: George F. Kennan / William F. Buckley, Jr. (C)
1968: Nelson Rockefeller / Maurice Britt (Whig Party) (Spit-votes from moderates in both parties)
1972: Hubert Humphrey / Fred Harris (PFP)
1976: Jimmy Carter / John Lindsay (W)
1980: Jimmy Carter / Henry Bellon (W)
1984: Francis A. Sinatra / Robert Darin (W)
1988: Joseph W. Namath / Earl E. Morrall (PFP)
1992: Francis A. Sinatra / Robert Darin (W)
1996: Bob Dole / Daniel J. Evans (C)
2000: Albert Gore, Jr. / William Clinton (Liberal Party)
2004: Sam Brownback (C) / Dick Gephardt (PFP)
2008: John McCain / Dave Mustaine (W)
2012: Jon Tester / Jeff Koons (PFP)
2016: Tom Coburn/ Chris Christie (C)
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OOC: By the way, IIRC we have a timeline or two that was started and waiting in queue after this one, so don't anybody start up anything completely new.

[Alternatehistorybuff5341]

Originally Posted by Brian Roastbeef

OOC: By the way, IIRC we have a timeline or two that was started and waiting in queue after this one, so don't anybody start up anything completely new.

Aw dang. I was wanting to start a 'No Pearl Harbor" TL List.

[Mr. Magi]

1788: Benedict Arnold / George Clinton (independent)
1792: Benedict Arnold / George Clinton (Unity Party)
1796: Benedict Arnold / George Clinton (U)
1800: George Clinton / John Adams (U)
1804: George Clinton / Thomas Jefferson (U-Democratic-Republican)
1808: Alexander Hamilton / Aaron Burr (U)
1810: Alexander Hamilton / Rufus King (U) (Unfortunately, the Hamilton-Burr duel occurred due to the two having issues)
1811: Rufus King (U) (Hamilton resigns in shame)
1812: DeWitt Clinton / Nathaniel Macon (Federalist Party) (Rufus King defeated soundly)
1816: DeWitt Clinton / Nathaniel Macon (F)
1820: Nathaniel Macon / John Pope (F)
1824: John Q. Adams / James Madison (D-R)
1828: John Pope / Henry Clay (Federalist Party)
1832: John Pope / Henry Clay (Federalist Party)
1836: Andrew Jackson / John C. Calhoun (Democratic) (Republican was dropped off Party name)
1840: Andrew Jackson / John C. Calhoun (D)
1844: Andrew Jackson / John C. Calhoun (D) [observing the three-term limit unofficially set by Arnold]
1848: Lewis Cass / Charles F. Adams (Free Republic) (Opposition to Jacksonian Policy)
1852: John C. Calhoun / Milliard Fillmore (D)
1856: Henry Clay / Abraham Lincoln (F)
1860: Henry Clay / Abraham Lincoln (F)
1861: Abraham Lincoln (F) Henry Clay dies of old age.
1864: Abraham Lincoln / Hannibal Hamlin (F) / Alexander Stephens / Thomas Moore (D) [unresolved election dispute]
1865: Abraham Lincoln / Hannibal Hamlin (F) (Results settled by Speaker of the House. Stephen and Moore head southern states who secede in protest)
1868: Abraham Lincoln / Hannibal Hamlin (F)
1872: Hannibal Hamlin / Ulysses S. Grant (F)
1876: Thomas A. Hendricks / Robert E. Lee* (D)
1880: Horatio Seymour / Schuyler Colfax (F)
1884: Horatio Seymour / Schuyler Colfax (F)
1888: Samuel J. Tilden / William Hayden English(D)
1892: Isaac P. Gray / Elihu Root (F)
1894: Elihu Root (F)
1896: Elihu Root / John Sherman (F)
1900: Samuel J. Tilden / Adlai Stevenson (D)
1904: Adlai Stevenson / Grover Cleveland (D)
1908: Luke E. Wright / William H. Taft (F)
1912: Luke E. Wright / William H. Taft (F)
1916: Alton B. Parker / Charles W. Fairbanks (Conservative Party)
1920: Alton B. Parker / Calvin Coolidge (C)
1924: Alton B. Parker / Calvin Coolidge (C)
1927: Calvin Coolidge (C)
1928: Calvin Coolidge / Herbert Hoover (C)
1932: Calvin Coolidge / Herbert Hoover (C)
1936: Huey Long / Francis Townsend (Popular Federalist Party)
1940: Herbert Hoover / Robert Taft (C)
1944:Henry Wallace/ Fiorello La Guardia (PFP)
1948: Thomas E. Dewey / Earl Warren (C)
1952: Thomas E. Dewey / Earl Warren (C)
1956: John Foster Dulles / George F. Kennan (C)
1960: Goodwin Knight / J. Caleb Boggs (PFP)
1964: George F. Kennan / William F. Buckley, Jr. (C)
1968: Nelson Rockefeller / Maurice Britt (Whig Party) (Spit-votes from moderates in both parties)
1972: Hubert Humphrey / Fred Harris (PFP)
1976: Jimmy Carter / John Lindsay (W)
1980: Jimmy Carter / Henry Bellon (W)
1984: Francis A. Sinatra / Robert Darin (W)
1988: Joseph W. Namath / Earl E. Morrall (PFP)
1992: Francis A. Sinatra / Robert Darin (W)
1996: Bob Dole / Daniel J. Evans (C)
2000: Albert Gore, Jr. / William Clinton (Liberal Party)
2004: Sam Brownback (C) / Dick Gephardt (PFP)
2008: John McCain / Dave Mustaine (W)
2012: Jon Tester / Jeff Koons (PFP)
2016: Tom Coburn/ Chris Christie (C)
2020:Tom Coburn/ Joseph B. Scarnati (C)

[anon_user]

Black Angel's TL (US only, as this is for US presidents, not Confederates) -
1864: George B. McClellan/George Hunt Pendleton (Democratic)
1868: Charles Sumner/Ulysses S. Grant (Republican)
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[Alternatehistorybuff5341]

Originally Posted by anon_user

Black Angel's TL (US only, as this is for US presidents, not Confederates) -
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WAIT STOP! I have an idea.


I started a CS Presidents thread a few days ago. How about we make a US presidents list from the TL we made in that thread. Here is the list we got.

1861: Jefferson Davis / Alexander Stephens (Democrat)
1867: Robert E. Lee / Thomas S. Bocock (D)
1873: Judah P. Benjamin/ John H. Reagan (D)
1879: Albert G. Brown / Thomas S. Bocock (D)
1885: James Longstreet / Stonewall Jackson (Conservative)
1891: Clifford Anderson / Edwin Goodwin Read (Liberty)
1897: Joseph C.S. Blackburn / Irvine Bulloch
1903: John Sharp Williams/ Woodrow Wilson (L)
1909: Woodrow Wilson/ Thomas E. Watson (L)
1915: Carter Glass / J. C. W. Beckham (D)
1921: John J. Pershing / John W. Davis (D)
1927: John J. Pershing / John W. Davis (D) (Amendment to the Constitution allows a POTCS to run for reelection)
1933: Huey Long / Theodore Bilbo (L)
1939: Huey Long / Theodore Bilbo (L)
1945: Walter W. Bankhead / Harry S. Truman (D)
1951: Harry Truman / Estes Kefauver (D)
1957: James F. Byrnes/ Estes Kefauver (L)
1963: Jennings Randolph / Teófilo Borunda (L) (President Byrnes turned down a secodn term, whishing to follow the 'tradition set down by our Founders'. The Randolph Admin. is notable having the first Non-White VP)
1969: Harrison Stafford/Terry Sanders (Socilist) (Won election in unexpected landslide.)
1975: Harrison Stafford/Terry Sanders (S)
1981: Kermit Roosevelt II/John F. Kennedy (D)
1987: Lee Harvey Oswald/John Connally (Communist Party) (Landslide victory; immediately overthrown by Military Junta, starting the Second Confederate Civil War)
1988: General Parker Saletto (Effective dictatorship)
1993: Ross Perot /Douglas Wilder (D) Saletto overthrown in 1992 by subordinates
1995: General Parker Saletto (Co-dictatorship with several other generals) Ross Perot and Douglas Wilder assassinated by Saletto-friendly coup.
1999: The Richmond Oligarchy (Successor to the Co-dictatorship and Proto-Democracy, formed after Saletto's fatal heart attack)
2003: Richard Vinciena (Elected by the Oligarchy, declares himself as "permanent ruler of the Confederacy", is immediately hailed as a hero, due to his youth and wealth.)
2011: Richard Vinciena (re-elected unopposed in patently fraudulent election)
2017: Richard Vinciena (re-elected unopposed)
2023: Matthew McConaughey / Bill Frist (Popular Party) (McConaughey is the populist leader of the bloodless "Cotton Revolution")
2026: Stephen Colbert / Andrew W. Mays (Unity Party) (McConaughey refuses to run for reelection, citing that he doesn't want to create another oligarchic power structure.)

[Brian Roastbeef]

Black Angel's TL (US only, as this is for US presidents, not Confederates) -
1864: George B. McClellan/George Hunt Pendleton (Democratic)
1868: Charles Sumner/Ulysses S. Grant (Republican)
1872: Ulysses S. Grant / Edwin Morgan (R)
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OOC: Are we still assuming that the Southern states are no longer a part of the USA, though?

Edit: Yeah, interesting, AHB. I've been in that thread, though didn't contribute. If you have ideas to work around that, then I'll be happy to go along.

[anon_user]

Well, no reason we can't keep going with this TL being the same as that one.
On the other hand, I have a vague preference for this being a different TL, if only so that we don't have to be quite so careful with the origins of people.

[Alternatehistorybuff5341]

Originally Posted by anon_user

Well, no reason we can't keep going with this TL being the same as that one.
On the other hand, I have a vague preference for this being a different TL, if only so that we don't have to be quite so careful with the origins of people.

That's understandable. It was just an interesting idea I had.

[Brian Roastbeef]

Originally Posted by anon_user

Well, no reason we can't keep going with this TL being the same as that one.
On the other hand, I have a vague preference for this being a different TL, if only so that we don't have to be quite so careful with the origins of people.

Well, if the CSA is still independent then we just have to make sure they're northerners.

Just watch out for John Kennedy. His grandfather traveled south sometime in the 1870s.

[Alternatehistorybuff5341]

Originally Posted by Brian Roastbeef

Well, if the CSA is still independent then we just have to make sure they're northerners.

Just watch out for John Kennedy. His grandfather traveled south sometime in the 1870s.

Oh, and we have been expanding the TL since we completed the list. CS President Benjamin funded a coup in Sacramento that re-established the Republic of California.

[anon_user]

I suppose...
I'm surprised the CSA hadn't had more coups. Interesting TL - Saletto strikes me as a sort of Pinochet-analog, with Oswald as the CSA's Allende (the first democratically elected Communist, overthrown very quickly).

I'm not sure about California separatism, but I suppose it could work.

[Brian Roastbeef]

California could weird things up for this TL...

I suppose we could justify things though if necessary. For example Reagan could stay in Illinois, and Nixon's father could remain in Ohio...

I could go either way I guess. Maybe we just do our own thing, then if somebody wants to reconcile the two TLs the kinks about family origins could be figured out then...

[Progressive Populist]

1864: George B. McClellan/George Hunt Pendleton (Democratic)
1868: Charles Sumner/Ulysses S. Grant (Republican)
1872: Ulysses S. Grant / Edwin Morgan (R)
1876: Ulysses S. Grant / Edwin Morgan (R)
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[black angel]

1864:George B. McClellan/George Hunt Pendleton (Democratic)
1868: Charles Sumner/Ulysses S. Grant (Republican)
1872: Ulysses S. Grant / Edwin Morgan (R)
1876: Ulysses S. Grant / Edwin Morgan (R)
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[Dean501]

1864:George B. McClellan/George Hunt Pendleton (Democratic)
1868: Charles Sumner/Ulysses S. Grant (Republican)
1872: Ulysses S. Grant / Edwin Morgan (R)
1876: Ulysses S. Grant / Edwin Morgan (R)
1880: Charles Francis Adams, Sr./ Henry B. Payne (Liberal Republican
1882:Henry B. Payne (Charles is shot by Confederate Sympathiser)/ Abraham Hall (LR)
1884:Henry B. Payne/ Abraham Hall (LR)
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[Zacoftheaxes]

Hey wait someone else in this thread put Dave Mustaine on a list?

Free high five.

[black angel]

1864:George B. McClellan/George Hunt Pendleton (Democratic)
1868: Charles Sumner/Ulysses S. Grant (Republican)
1872: Ulysses S. Grant / Edwin Morgan (R)
1876: Ulysses S. Grant / Edwin Morgan (R)
1880: Charles Francis Adams, Sr./ Henry B. Payne (Liberal Republican
1882:Henry B. Payne (Charles is shot by Confederate Sympathiser)/ Abraham Hall (LR)
1884:Henry B. Payne/ Abraham Hall (LR)
1888: John Bidwell/James H. Kyle (Populist-Prohibition Party)
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[tb75]

1864:George B. McClellan/George Hunt Pendleton (Democratic)
1868: Charles Sumner/Ulysses S. Grant (Republican)
1872: Ulysses S. Grant / Edwin Morgan (R)
1876: Ulysses S. Grant / Edwin Morgan (R)
1880: Charles Francis Adams, Sr./ Henry B. Payne (Liberal Republican
1882:Henry B. Payne (Charles is shot by Confederate Sympathiser)/ Abraham Hall (LR)
1884:Henry B. Payne/ Abraham Hall (LR)
1888: John Bidwell/James H. Kyle (Populist-Prohibition Party)
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[Mr. Magi]

1864:George B. McClellan/George Hunt Pendleton (Democratic)
1868: Charles Sumner/Ulysses S. Grant (Republican)
1872: Ulysses S. Grant / Edwin Morgan (R)
1876: Ulysses S. Grant / Edwin Morgan (R)
1880: Charles Francis Adams, Sr./ Henry B. Payne (Liberal Republican
1882:Henry B. Payne (Charles is shot by Confederate Sympathiser)/ Abraham Hall (LR)
1884:Henry B. Payne/ Abraham Hall (LR)
1888: John Bidwell/James H. Kyle (Populist-Prohibition Party)
1892: Grover Cleveland/ Adlai Stevenson I (Democratic)
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[black angel]

1864:George B. McClellan/George Hunt Pendleton (Democratic)
1868: Charles Sumner/Ulysses S. Grant (Republican)
1872: Ulysses S. Grant / Edwin Morgan (R)
1876: Ulysses S. Grant / Edwin Morgan (R)
1880: Charles Francis Adams, Sr./ Henry B. Payne (Liberal Republican
1882:Henry B. Payne (Charles is shot by Confederate Sympathiser)/ Abraham Hall (LR)
1884:Henry B. Payne/ Abraham Hall (LR)
1888: John Bidwell/James H. Kyle (Populist-Prohibition Party)
1892: Grover Cleveland/ Adlai Stevenson I (D)
1896: Grover Cleveland/ Adlai Stevenson I (D)
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