Alternate symbol for Nazi German.
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For the party or the flag?
The SS symbol, AFAIK, was based on the swastika.
Since Hitler pretty much wanted to remake the German Empire (plus a massive wank), the most likely alternate flag for Nazi Germany would be the flag of the GE, which actually was used from 1933-1935 as Germany's flag until it was banned.
The SS symbol, AFAIK, was based on the swastika.
Since Hitler pretty much wanted to remake the German Empire (plus a massive wank), the most likely alternate flag for Nazi Germany would be the flag of the GE, which actually was used from 1933-1935 as Germany's flag until it was banned.
The Vulture
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I think Maverick's suggestion is best- simple, immediately recognizable, and tied in well with their occultism.
Some variation of Dagaz (runic letter D), for Deutchland.
Its original meaning is 'day', so one could pile a lot of bs about 'new dawn' and such onto it.
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Its original meaning is 'day', so one could pile a lot of bs about 'new dawn' and such onto it.
In the Chaplin film 'The Great Dictator' the Nazi parody's symbol is the 'double cross'. I took that symbol, rotated/flipped it and when I filled in the space between the 2 crosses there was something like the 'sig' rune!
So here's my alternate symbol and how the alternate Nazi flag would look.
So here's my alternate symbol and how the alternate Nazi flag would look.
I Blame Communism
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As other people have been saying, you can essentially take any sufficently bold and striking symbol associated with vikings - and the German occult-nationalist subculture of the late Empire had a million of 'em. Besides the swastika in its several incarnations, there's the runic alphabet, Thor's hammer, the sun cross (like Quisling used), the hands of god (more usually Slavic, but associated with the Vandals, and when did Nazism ever make sense?), and so on and so forth.
The Germanic symbols, in particular the D rune, are definitely viable alternatives.
Thor's hammer also makes sense here - but it seems to be too concrete, too closely linked to a specific story. I suppose Hitler was deliberately seeking something with more abstract associations (power, vigor).
One symbol not yet mentioned is one the Nazis actually used: the Eagle.
In their own variation of course, but leaned from its association with Germany since the 19th century (because of the glorification of Hohenstauffen).
This again is concrete, but already cooked down sufficiently as a heraldic symbol.
However, it is not really Nazi (or even German) specific.
The Swastika, as the D rune, have the prime advantage that they are completely unknown to the average European of that time, completely abstract, and so can serve as a perfect means of identification for the Nazis, and for association of almost everything you declare it stands for.
So I think, the Swastika was really a smart choice (as would have been the D rune).
You mean black and white and red?
Think of the 20s: A political party can't just use a former national flag as party symbol.
Moreover, there were enough issues which separated the Nazis from the from the Empire of 1870 - but they decoyed its old supporters by their common hostility to the republic. The Nazis thus attracted particularly military elites and partially businessmen - because they needed them.
But using the same colors is all you can get here. Again, the Nazis went well with something unrepeated, something unmistakable.
Thor's hammer also makes sense here - but it seems to be too concrete, too closely linked to a specific story. I suppose Hitler was deliberately seeking something with more abstract associations (power, vigor).
One symbol not yet mentioned is one the Nazis actually used: the Eagle.
In their own variation of course, but leaned from its association with Germany since the 19th century (because of the glorification of Hohenstauffen).
This again is concrete, but already cooked down sufficiently as a heraldic symbol.
However, it is not really Nazi (or even German) specific.
The Swastika, as the D rune, have the prime advantage that they are completely unknown to the average European of that time, completely abstract, and so can serve as a perfect means of identification for the Nazis, and for association of almost everything you declare it stands for.
So I think, the Swastika was really a smart choice (as would have been the D rune).
You mean black and white and red?
Think of the 20s: A political party can't just use a former national flag as party symbol.
Moreover, there were enough issues which separated the Nazis from the from the Empire of 1870 - but they decoyed its old supporters by their common hostility to the republic. The Nazis thus attracted particularly military elites and partially businessmen - because they needed them.
But using the same colors is all you can get here. Again, the Nazis went well with something unrepeated, something unmistakable.
Thande
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Wow, nice find. I have this bizarre mental image now of Hitler posting his flag ideas in the Flag Thread and getting everyone's opinions on them