3rd Countries of an Alternate World Thread

Hominid said:

theReturner started a thread a while back where you make your own countries to create an alternate world. Well, that thread is done (it is now a map game), so now I'm starting a new one.

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Seeing as Hominid's is almost done, I decided I might start this one.

What makes this different from the other two, is that you don't put a history for your nation. In the other two that turned out to be contradictory and caused disputes. So, in this thread, we will post nations, and then work out a history once we have several of them, then continue to build that history independently of the nation posts as more and more nations are posted. Then we will figure out GDPs and militaries for nations.

Rules:
-All countries must make up ONE world.
-The smaller the better.
-Flags etc. are welcome but not required.
-Please provide a map.
-Claim a post before you create your nation
-Only create present-day countries.
-Feel free to create multiple countries.
-You are allowed to make one 'big' country, and as many 'small' countries as you want. However if you help with lists and data etc. then you may put more than one big country
-Don't put a history for your nation
-Use the template

A 'big' nation is anything larger than 2010 OTL Poland. A 'small' nation is anything smaller than 2010 OTL Poland.

template, do not add any more information, GDP and history will be figured out as we go

Official Name: Official name
Common Names: Common name or names
Government Type: Is it a communist dictatorship? A constitutional republic?
Capital: Name of the capital city
Head of State: Who actually controls the country?
Population: How many people live here
Languages: What languages?
Religion: What do they believe?
Founding date: When was it founded? If it died and came back later, put more than one
Date of maximum extent: When were they largest?
Date of current borders: When did they get their current borders?
Map: Put a map here

This is my 'big' nation. Yeah it's a cliche, so what. If multiple people think it's too big then I will shrink it. But for a 'big' nation I think it's an okay size.

Official Name: Roman Empire
Common Names: Greece, Rome, Constantinople, Byzantium
Government Type: Constitutional Monarchy (with Parliamentary Democracy)
Capital: Constantinople
Head of State: Iulius Konstantinos
Population: 95,000,000
Language: Greek, Latin
Religion: Orthodox Christianity
Founding date: 27 BC, 1475, 1950
Date of maximum extent: 116 AD
Date of current borders: 1970
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Official Name: La République Patagonie
Common Names: Patagonia
Government Type: Republic
Capital: Neuquén
Head of State: Louis Marcel
Population: 1,500,000 (2010 est)
Language: French, Mapudungun
Religion: Roman Catholicism
Founding date: 1860
Date of maximum extent: 1860
Date of current borders: 1860
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official Name: Imerpium Rommanum Occidentalis Constantium
Common Names: IROC, Western Roman Empire
Government Type: Federal Empire, states give power to the central government and emperor who rules with an elected council but the Emperor still maintains a lot of control.
Capital: Avarcium
Head of State: Emperor Constans XVII
Population: 110,000,000
Languages: "Germanic" Latin
Religion: Arian Christianity
Founding date: 407 AD, 590 AD 810 AD
Date of maximum extent: 455 AD
Date of current borders: 522 *though they would shrink and expand this was the ideal set of borders was constantly strived for.

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EDIT : good thing we didnt post history because look at what happened in Patagonia, how about we have historically the Franks move through Gaul and into Iberia and then become "France"

Just want to establish a precedent.

Oh great, now we're going to have too many 'ancient' nations. Also Axeman I would change the name, Orientalis means East.

Combined posts:

New rule. Claim a post so that we won't have to deal with combining maps.

And with that I claim a post.

Woops your right, meant Occidentalis.

Official Name: Republic of Portugal and Costafri
Common Names: Portugal
Government Type: Federal Republic
Capital: Lisbon
Head of State: Juan Fernando
Population: 11,000,000
Languages: Portuguese, Latin
Religion: Catholic Christianity
Founding date: 875, 1356, 1925
Date of maximum extent: 1754
Date of current borders: 1925
Map:



Costafri is derived from Costa Fria (cold coast). Costafri is Newfoundland in TTL

Official Name: Republica de las Provincias Unidas del Rio de la Plata (Rio de la Plata United Provinces' Republic)
Common Names: Las provincias; provincias, Argentina, Plata
Government Type: Federal Republic
Capital: Asuncion
Head of State: Juan Martín Schneider
Population: 55,000,000
Languages: Spanish, Portuguese, Guarani, Guaicurú, Quechua, Tehuelce and other Indigenous languages // Officially: Spanish
Religion: Roman Catholic officially.
Founding date: 1536 - 1824 - 1867 - 1898
Date of maximum extent: 1898
Date of current borders: 1898
Map:

Official Name: Dangunate of Josun
Common Names: Josun
Government Type: Constitutional monarchy, parliamentary democracy
Capital: Pyongyang
Dangun: Jung-hee
Prime Minister: Kim Sung-yong
Population: 140 million
Languages: Josun (OTL Korean)
Religion: 22% Buddhist, 72% Christianity (82% analog combo of Mormonism and Baptist fundamentalism, 12% Orthodox, 3% Arian, 2% Catholic), 2% Jewish, 2% Muslim, 2% Atheist
Important dates: First Dynasty 2333 BCE, Current Dynasty 918, First Constitution 1872 CE, Current constitution 1955 CE
Date of maximum extent: 1950
Date of current borders: 1953
Map:


Yeah it's big, but the fact that most of the land is unpopulated evens it out IMO.

The basic thing is the Gojoseon Kingdom doesn't balkanize, and becomes an analog to Genghis Khan's Mongolian Empire. Of course it loses control over mostly everything like OTL, but keeps Siberia since no one else wants it. I imagined it having control over parts of Alaska and Canada too, but losing that after World War Whatever Number maybe? Maybe Central Asia and Greater Mongolia too.

What are some wars that we can suggest for the history of this world? I would suggest a World War One, Two, maybe Three and Four. A Great War of Europe, Crusades up to twenty, War between the Romes...

Well the basic history behind this is that Constantine the Usurper secures Gaul and Britannia like OTL but does not lose Britannia to a revolt, and then tag teams with Bonifous in North Africa to force the recognition of Gaul and North Africa as independent.

From this point we could see the Franks move into Spain, the Goths stay in Italy completely, and the Vandals pushed into North Africa or integrated.

I think this should be the basic first POD for this world, at least in Western Europe.

Well the basic history behind this is that Constantine the Usurper secures Gaul and Britannia like OTL but does not lose Britannia to a revolt, and then tag teams with Bonifous in North Africa to force the recognition of Gaul and North Africa as independent.

From this point we could see the Franks move into Spain, the Goths stay in Italy completely, and the Vandals pushed into North Africa or integrated.

I think this should be the basic first POD for this world, at least in Western Europe.

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How about in the area of Spain, that's currently unclaimed, in the area of the Pyrenee and the historical OTL kingdom of Aragon, French is spoken, in the rest Spanish is spoken.

In Italy, a Gothic-Latin language is consider Italian for simplicity, and North Africa speaks Vandal.

And how about this world's lingua franca is Latin

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How much of the world should Portugal control by 1754 at its zenith, anyway? I'm thinking it should have had all of OTL Brazil, plus the Rio de la Plata nation thats on here, a few East Indies islands, Angola, Newfoundland, and Florida. Oh and Portugal of course.

In 1755 Portugal loses one of its East Indies islands which technically breaks the Zenith, then the War of Portugal now undated takes away most the rest of the land, several colonies revolt, and it is defeated in the First World War, then after the Second World War it is re-established.

Official Name: Slovianskie Panstvo (lat. Dominium Slavicum)
Common Names: Slavia, Sclavenia,
Government Type: Constitutional Monarchy
Capital: Sowigrad (lat. Strigopolis)
Head of State: hospodyna Libusza V
Population: 68,000,000
Language: official Western Slavic numerous local dialects
Religion: Slavic Christianity (combination of Celtic, Orthodox and Arianism)
Founding date: 794 AD
Date of maximum extent: 1408
Date of current borders: 1974
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Founded by Slavomir the Strix, commander of Slavic mercenary corps in Byzantine army. Afetr their time of service expired Emperor Basilius II considered it would be better to eliminate Slavic leaders than to pay them with promised lands. The assassination attempt failed and Slavomir led his corps north out of the Empire robbing every library he could find, abducting many specialists (scholars, architects etc.) and destroying everything else. He founded his new kingdom on Vistula with Sowigrad (City of Owls) as the capital (IOTL Sandomierz, Poland).

seraphim74 said:

Official Name: Slovianskie Panstvo (lat. Dominium Slavicum)
Common Names: Slavia, Sclavenia,
Government Type: Constitutional Monarchy
Capital: Sowigrad (lat. Strigopolis)
Head of State: hospodyna Libusza V
Population: 68,000,000
Language: official Western Slavic numerous local dialects
Religion: Slavic Christianity (combination of Celtic, Orthodox and Arianism)
Founding date: 794 AD
Date of maximum extent: 1408
Date of current borders: 1974
Map:

Founded by Slavomir the Strix, commander of Slavic mercenary corps in Byzantine army. Afetr their time of service expired Emperor Basilius II considered it would be better to eliminate Slavic leaders than to pay them with promised lands. The assassination attempt failed and Slavomir led his corps north out of the Empire robbing every library he could find, abducting many specialists (scholars, architects etc.) and destroying everything else. He founded his new kingdom on Vistula with Sowigrad (City of Owls) as the capital (IOTL Sandomierz, Poland).

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You ignored Plumber's post.

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Also to everyone else... let's not do as many ancient nations.

Official Name: Most Serene Republic of Venice-and-Genoa
Common Names: Republic of Venice-and-Genoa, Venetian-Genoese Republic, Venice-Genoa
Government Type: Semi-presidential republic (originally oligarchic crowned republic)
Capital: Venice (executive), Genoa (legislative and judicial)
Head of State: Doge Alessandro Cassinelli
Population: 25,589,000
Language: Venetian, Genoan, Gotiano (all descended from Gothic-Latin)
Religion: 93% Catholic, 3% Protestant, 2% Jew, 2% other
Founding date: 697 (Venice), 1005 (Genoa), 1496 (de jure unification of governments)
Date of maximum extent: 1768
Date of current borders: 1911

Originally posted by Xwarq

You ignored Plumber's post.

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My deepest apologies, especially to Plumber. And since because of my mistake Saye Aensland ignored Plumber's empire too, here I put corrected, newest map.

Official Name: Crusader Kingdom of Jerusalem & Carthage
Common Names: Jerusalem & Carthage, New Phoenicia
Government Type: Constitutional Monarchy
Capital: Jerusalem (executive), Carthage (legislative and judicial)
Head of State: King Hannibal de Lusignan
Population: 125,589,000
Language: French, English, Constructed Punic
Religion: 53% Catholic, 33% Protestant, 12% Jew, 2% other
Founding date: 978 (Jerusalem), 1104 (Carthage) 1212 (de jure unification of crusader nations)
Date of maximum extent: 1768
Date of current borders: 1911






Founded by Crusader factions who succesfully conquered the Maghreb & Levant. Founded by the Lusignan dynasty who alter unified the Carthaginian Christian Kingdom with his own Jersuale based one effectively creating a Christian superstate.

During the reformation, the Kingdom embraced Protestantism but as of late has seen a great resurgance of Catholicism with over 50% of natives claiming to be Catholic.
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Official Name: Confederacy of Kindrids
Common Names: Pictland
Government Type: Confederation of constitutional monarchies
Capital: Lorne
Head of State: Bridei MacAlpine
Population: 16 Million
Languages: Pictish, Scottish, Irish, British
Religion: Mostly Pagan-Christian
Founding date: Unified in 1125
Date of maximum extent: 1775
Date of current borders: 1928
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Nishi Nippon Republic

Official Name: The Republic of Western Japan and the Ryukyu Islands
Common Names: Nishi Nippon Republic
Government Type: Presidential Republic
Capital: Osaka
Head of State: President Hashimoto
Population: 34,345,000
Language: Kansai Japanese, Kyushu Japanese, Ryukyuian
Religion: 85% Buddhist/Shinto, 10% Catholic, 5% Protestant
Founding date: 1851
Date of maximum extent: 1863
Date of current borders: 1872