Where did Martin Bormann go,after World War 2

Bill Cameron

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mowque said:
I thought they found him in Berlin?
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Mowque,

They did. Pay no attention to what this knucklehead is claiming.

Bormann and a companion were killed in an artillery barrage while trying to slip out of Berlin. A third member of their party, who had become briefly separated from them, saw the bodies. The Soviet troops searched the bodies, finding Bormann's diary and his companion's paybook, they turned those documents over to their superiors, and then ordered a German civilian to bury them.

In the early 70s two bodies were found very close to where the German civilian said he had buried them. Dental records and healed fractures allowed one of the bodies to be identified as Bormann. In the 1990s a DNA analysis confirmed the earlier forensic identification.

Bormann died in Berlin during the early hours of May 1st, 1945. Various people and governments, including the USSR, kept rumors of his survival swirling for a variety of reasons.


Bill
 

BlairWitch749

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Aurther Axeman (the head of the Hitler youth confirmed he saw the bodies whilst escaping from Berlin in 1945) Borman and Stumpfegger's bodies were dug up in the 70's by the Russians. The Russians then 100 percent confirmed Stupfeggers body was legit and proved Axeman's account. They did DNA testing in the 90's to stifle the conspiracy theorists and checked the Borman skeleton against his son. It was a match and proven... Borman never made it out of Berlin. Its right on Borman's wiki page and its accurate.
 
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Atreus

Greg the Historian said:
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Killed during the fall of Berlin.

Artur Axeman saw the bodies of Bormann and Stumptfueger. The russians recovered them during the seventies. Bormann's dentist confirmed the identity via his dental records, as did DNA testing on the body.

Anybody who tells you otherwise is either a conspiracy theorist or stark raving mad (not that the two are mutually exclusive).
 

Ward

Atreus said:
Killed during the fall of Berlin.

Artur Axeman saw the bodies of Bormann and Stumptfueger. The russians recovered them during the seventies. Bormann's dentist confirmed the identity via his dental records, as did DNA testing on the body.

Anybody who tells you otherwise is either a conspiracy theorist or stark raving mad (not that the two are mutually exclusive).
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As a young man in the 50's and 60's the rumor was that he went to Argentina after the war .
 

Joseph K.

He moved to the USA, and was the bartender for legendary music producer Ronnie 'Z-Man' Barzell. After Barzell was killed, he moved to the midwest where he was the owner of a gas station.
 

Atreus

Ward said:
As a young man in the 50's and 60's the rumor was that he went to Argentina after the war .
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Yeah, I remember those rumors. You still hear them floating around, every so often. Of course, we didn't know then what we know now.

Back in the 50's and 60's, there was at least the possibility that something along those lines could have happened. They might not have been the most plausible ideas, but there wasn't any truly definitive proof of Bormann's death (aside from Axeman's account, and he wasn't exactly the most reliable narrator).

But since then, things have changed. The body of Bormann was found, in a location which matches axeman's account, and it was forensicly identified as being Bormann, with DNA testing a few decades later confirming this. All the evidence points to the inescapable conclusion that Martin Bormann died on 1 May 1945.

Basically, those sorts of rumors persist today for two reasons. The first is that they became a small part of our collective memory of history. A lot of people heard that Bormann may have escaped Berlin, and not all of them are going to accept otherwise (or even learn otherwise). The second is that an escaping high-level nazi is perfect fodder for a conspiracy theory, either in and of itself or as a cog in a larger wheel. And, given that Bormann's true fate was only confirmed after the fact, it is a lot easier to insist that he survived than the idea that, say, Goring or Ribbentrop escaped.
 
9 Fanged Hummingbird

9 Fanged Hummingbird

God I can't stand how sensationalist the History Channel has become. It's not even about history anymore! It's about the 2012 nonsense and the like and frickin' Ice Truckers. I remember way back when the History Channel actually had history on it, albeit WW2 history mostly but still, seems to be little more than a memory though...

Anyways, what ^he said, welcome. Bathroom's on the right in case you were wondering.
 
RogueBeaver

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I only watch the US History Channel docs now, because all they have up here is that *George Carlin* ICE ROAD TRUCKERS. Even then, they broadcast a "Dallas conspiracy theory" show that Gerald Ford denounced among others, and they had to retract it. History of conspiracies is not history, rather ideological fantasies/loony.
 
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