How realistic is "Italian Surge"?

[Constantinople]

I have read this a couple times and I am wondering what you guys think of it.
I would like to see it continued.

Italian Surge:
http://www.changingthetimes.co.uk/sa...an%20Surge.htm

[MrP]

Mm, part way through it and enjoying it. That said, I don't think it's as realistic as it could be. Mainly as nothing's going wrong for the Italians by late 1939, and their military's looking too deuced competent by half. The Fermi nuclear incident was very interesting - and I can quite see that being parlayed into something greater

[hans]

It's very funny !
It's most improbably AH !

[Constantinople]

Ja, it is not super realistic, but seeing italy do something else besides lose is nice.

[Forum Lurker]

Italy sat astride the world for centuries, and spawned what's quite possibly the single most influential culture in all of European history. Admittedly, they did it millenia ago, but it's still something of which they should be proud.

[Constantinople]

I mean the last couple hundred years, plus the Italians are much more germanic than they were 2000 years ago.

[simonbp]

To be quite honest, the only thing keeping any major power from deploying primative (Little Boy-style, gun-based designs) was having a suffiecent quantitly of fissile material. The US got lucky in that they bought up a whole bunch of west African Uranium ore before the war thinking that it might have some military use and that they had the resources to build the massive Y-12 facility in Oak Ridge, Tennessee to enrich it from 0.07% U235 to ~5%. If in the 1930's, some power (UK, USSR, France, Germany, Japan, even Italy) had gotten a large enough interest in building an atomic bomb and aranged the proper resources, the could easily have beaten the US.

Now, a more efficent, implosion-triggered bomb (a la Fat Man) requires a bit more research, and would probably require collaboration (just as it did in real life).....

Simon

[Constantinople]

Did you read the whole thing?

[JimmyJimJam]

Originally Posted by simonbp

To be quite honest, the only thing keeping any major power from deploying primative (Little Boy-style, gun-based designs) was having a suffiecent quantitly of fissile material. The US got lucky in that they bought up a whole bunch of west African Uranium ore before the war thinking that it might have some military use and that they had the resources to build the massive Y-12 facility in Oak Ridge, Tennessee to enrich it from 0.07% U235 to ~5%. If in the 1930's, some power (UK, USSR, France, Germany, Japan, even Italy) had gotten a large enough interest in building an atomic bomb and aranged the proper resources, the could easily have beaten the US.

Yeah and I guess some roman could have invented gunpower, too.

[MrP]

Originally Posted by JimmyJimJam

Yeah and I guess some roman could have invented gunpower, too.

A smidge unfair, JJJ. After all, they had steam power. Just didn't have any reason to take it beyond theory. Whereas Italian Surge does have several of the important Manhattan Project scientists ending up in Italy. It's not terribly likely that they'd do this, but it's certainly got vast amounts more probability than Roman gunpowder

[Mr.Bluenote]

Well, I kinda liked it! It's not terribly realistic or even plausible, mind you, but fun and different. It among other things inspired me to write the Italia Eterna ATL (which I will finish some time, yes!).

Italy under Mussolini is actually rather interesting in regards to WI's. There were so many opportunities wasted and missed, that one can get dizzy just thinking about them!

Regards and all!

- Mr.Bluenote.

[Superdude]

The one thing I don't like is that the Allied Powers are always losing.

[Constantinople]

I found this on my HD and I was wondering if anybody ever saw it. I might have posted it in a map thread somewhere. Either way, its not a bad map!

[DuQuense]

link broken

[Constantinople]

Yeah. Though I was just talking about the map. Is it any good?


Edit: here is the link

http://www.changingthetimes.net/samp...an%20Surge.htm