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Old August 9th, 2009, 03:25 PM
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Canada's Bosnia and Sarajevo

In honour of the "1995 Quebec referendum thread," how could the separation of Quebec turn violent? Specifically, how could it develop into a situation similar to Bosnia. Yes, before anyone tells me, I know the situations are vastly worlds apart, but the question is: how could the tension escalate into a shooting war? Point of departure is the '95 Referendum. Bonus if Montreal becomes Sarajevo (Anglophones/Alophones/Federalist Quebecois vs Separatists).
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do not respond if your only intention is to accuse me of being a racist or of hating Quebec (neither of which is true, nor is it my intention in this thread).
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Old August 9th, 2009, 03:41 PM
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Probably just let the Canadian government do what it planned to do. Idiots.
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Old August 9th, 2009, 03:47 PM
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maybe there is an assassination of a major canadian politician. Soon people blame each other and things get messy in Quebec.

USA invokes Monroe doctrine and sends soldiers to enforce the referendum. Resulting quagmire is the equivalent to vietnam.

Meanwhile, US-Canadian relations go down the drain with NAFTA.
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Old August 9th, 2009, 09:28 PM
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Umm...the Monroe doctrine has to do with foreign interference in the Americas. Canada is not a foreign country, it occupies a very large portion of North America. Secondly, the POD is only the 1995 referendum itself, which the US was not happy about, and certainly would not enforce.
The ministers and beaurocrats of the Canadian goverment at the time of the Separatist crisis were not "idiots." They were Canadian officials taking a hard line against Quebec, which was itself behaving idiotic.
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Old August 10th, 2009, 04:14 AM
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maybe there is an assassination of a major canadian politician. Soon people blame each other and things get messy in Quebec.

USA invokes Monroe doctrine and sends soldiers to enforce the referendum. Resulting quagmire is the equivalent to vietnam.

Meanwhile, US-Canadian relations go down the drain with NAFTA.
Also Monroe doctrine would only apply if a European power was seeking to gain territory in North America. Besides Monroe Doctrine is not law, the U.S. could ignore a violation of it if they chose and they have on several occasions looked the other way on "violations".
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Old August 10th, 2009, 04:22 AM
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Well say Quebec won the vote. Afterwards they are denied by Canada to seperate into there own country. Protest and Rallies pop up all over Quebec for, and even some aganist seperation. A major Quebec Nationalist ( since I know nothing, I don't know any ) Is killed at such a rally, and the result is mass riots and violence.

This would need a lot of things to happen, but it's probably more likely than someone saying 'hmm lets have a revolt!' then agian, I don't know very much about the issue of Quebec besides some want to seperate and form there own nation.
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Old August 10th, 2009, 04:35 AM
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If Jacques Parizeau (the Premier of Quebec) or Lucien Bouchard (leader of the Bloc Quebecois) were assassinated, that would probably serve to provoke tempers beyond the boiling point. Western Canadian members of parliament begin openly calling for Quebec to be "crushed," making absurd Separatist lies about Anglo - Canada hating Quebec appear true. Ottawa intervenes and forbids the sovereignty referendum and voila, armed rebellion will undoubtedly spring up.
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