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So I pretty much finished the Code Geass TL, as well as the pre-Gundam 00 TL that serves as the prequel to the Endless Conflict one. So any more ideas to Endless Conflict?
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I'm quite a bit busy right now, which is why I still can't commit myself into making and commenting on your timelines enough right now. And also, there are these challenges of making our timelines, realistic enough while still allowing our favoritisms to roam free and create havoc on the antagonist, which happens to be the Draka like Holy Britannian Empire.
One of these challenges is the antagonist itself, the super empire that is the Holy Britannian Empire. The cannon specifically states that this empire is first; Social Darwinist and second; an absolute monarchy. There are contradictions to these notions of course. But we're solving them and sticking to more accurately portray Britannia as how the cannon describes it. But we also want a strong antagonist which is destined to get kicked in the ass by the 1960's. The question is, How to make Britannia strong without making it implode from the inside since the early nineteenth century... while at the same time, developing despite having a social and political system that is not conducive to development and advancement. We're talking of an entity with an exiled absolute monarchy with an influential and powerful European aristocracy that has to become even more than what the United States had achieved in territorial expansion for a period of 150 years. Now, let's compare it to our realtime entities that are fitting into the image of this country. Soviet Union, already large at the start but with totally bad economics; 70 years. Territorial expansion: Good enough, getting back the Baltics but not edited: Finland along with having a good looking ideology that captured the imagination of many. Capturing Eastern Europe as well. But is already rotten to the core that it just had to die at some time in the future. Mainly due to bad economics. Afghanistan did that. Nazi Germany, weak at the start and revived itself to start warmongering on its neighbors; 12 years. Territorial expansion: Impressive, until Russia. Stalingrad in particular. And the Lend-Lease Act of the United States bringing its vast resources. Fascist Italy, the same case as Nazi Germany only that it started 10 years earlier; 22 years. Territorial expansion: Pathetic African lands plus Albania with little economic importance. post-Humiliation of Edinburgh Britannia: Let's consider that they have the entire breadth of the eastern North America with them, except a few islands in the Caribbean owned by Spain. Without my ASB elements since this Britannia shares almost same territories as my United States in 1816, It's a question how they would expand. Totally a question how. Britannia (1815): Absolute monarchy, an exiled European aristocracy that would intermingle with the existing planter and slave-owning aristocracy in this 1850's technology level world. There is the primogeniture system that would cause problems in westward settlement because of the different inheritance laws in terms of private property. A Crown Continental Commission might already been around giving out tithes and leases of land by the time of the rebellion, which probably are favoring aristocrats and the rich. It could be made as one of the causes of the rebellion itself. There would be no "American Dream" to pursue as a result, since there is no lure of getting land for yourself. Immigrants would not be that much then, but they could still be many. Immigration fueled the American industrialization process here in OTL. Who would do it this time around?? Slaves?? The situation would also entail the continued practice of African American slavery longer than 1865, since selling agricultural products is really lucrative and falls in line with aristocratic tastes. This is not the British Empire that we're talking about here. It would then hamper industrial development needed by the military. Wow...!! How are you going to solve that?? There are also problems in your timelines in making your favorite countries into undisputable superpowers... For Hetalia and Sibirskaya, It's obvious what you wanted in the end... But you need a proper historical timeline to make it happen which you are doing with all you can... The bad thing is that the very countries you want to wank... like a Russia that has a Soviet and socialist past... and an Italy that has a Fascist past... as late as 50 years before the start of CG... hardly qualifies as worthy countries to realistically wanked... Which is why you need to give your countries a good historical background in the pattern of our highly successful great powers... which is in the pattern of the Dutch Republic, the United Kingdom and the United States... as our OTL examples... Include Roman Republic and Renaissance Italy as well in terms of culture... The way I see it, I see the patterns that happened in terms of from Ancient Greece to Ancient Rome (First Punic War) to Renaissance Italy (Roman legacy hardly forgotten) to the Dutch Republic (Genoese/Venetian merchant capitalism) to the United Kingdom (Glorious Revolution) to the United States (American Revolution)... I know that it's Eurocentric... but it's still undetermined if China (a non-Western power) could enter into the pattern... but despite it's rise right now... it's getting more and more annoyed with its lack of diplomatic baggage for the Western world... where global power lies for the past 500 years....Going back to the topic, The pattern itself is something to look at into how your countries should fit in... Russia would benefit from its geographical position but you need the Byzantines to not to fall down... and set the pace for Russia to follow.... And in the Byzantine case, it would affect Hetalia's case as well... That is the Isaac's Empire TL is something to look at for me... and use Byzantine history so that Russia and the Holy Roman Empire could earn their place in their respective CG worlds.... As much as your anti-Americanism Sibirskaya, That's the pattern.... The "Great Satan" is the only model out there for a successful superpowerdom... And it's still very hard to beat... especially as the West is starting to recover from the Great Recession... China might turn out just as one of those fears that Americans always have for their existence since the Battles of Lexington and Concord in the very beginnings of the Revolution... just like for the Saudis in the 70's and Japanese in the 80's... Globalization though could be the catalyst for the passage of power from America's "hyperpower status" into a tripolar or multipolar or multi-partner world of the 21st century... Then also use globalization to your benefit people... Britannia is no where globalistic and innovative in its image that's why it's almost impossible to see its technological advantages.... Make your countries "globalistic", "open-minded" and "innovative" to your benefit...
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Yes!
Big Tex already allowed me to use some of his Strangerverse Ameriwank elements...!! HAHAHAHAHA...!! Eurofed did to...!! I can finally pursue my diabolical US fetish...! AHAHAHAHA....!!!
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TO SIBIRSKAYA:
I want to ask you Sibirskaya if you PM'd Basileus Giorgios again in allowing us to elements of his TL in our works... We've considered not using his before... so you might PM'd him that we'll not using his TL anymore... I'm not sure... I don't remember anymore... Did you ask his permission??
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Plus I've stumbled across Full Metal Panic! mecha as well, so expect to see a vastly improved Knightmare Frames based on Full Metal Panic! Soviet Arm Slaves and mobile suits from the Gundam universe.
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Britwank
Hey Libertad thanks for showing me to AL's Britwank empire.
Anyway, according to the Code Geass wikia Britannia is a constutional monarcy (then again it seems to flib-flob on the issue), In knightmare of Nunally when Charles is about to start his plan he announces that 'he will dissove the senate and become the absolute emperor.' However I know what you are asking, how why does everything seem to be run by the royal family? ![]() Since I am doing a TL I will have to answer this question as well. I am thinking of some sort of system were family members are appointed to top positions but they can be voted off by people below them (however it requires a near unanimous vote). Do you think we should also have a Britannian anologue of the OTL's East India Company? Anyway I haven't done any work on my TL yet. I need to do some research, especially in the areas of:
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A surviving Ottoman Empire is what I've also considered when redoing one of my old TLs.
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parliamentary democracies and limited monarchies.... This is all bullshit..... You can have an absolute monarchy and yet have a legislature... It only happens that OTL's English monarchs in Tudor and Stuart dynasties before 1660 follows tradition of convening Parliament though it's not regular in modern sense... French monarchy is more "absolute" and also more feudalistic which is the reason why the Estates-General was not convened for 175 years... "Absolute monarchy" also has its limitations... but it's still tyranny in modern democratic sense... I see the inevitability of Ottoman collapse in my personal opinion... At least, it could still be transformed but not as the Ottoman Empire as we knew... You could just have the "Ottoman Imperial Federation" around... I'm actually advising Hetalia to strengthen the Dutch Republic of OTL and make it not lose its superpower status of the 1600's and 1700's.... I distrust such a Draka like expansion for the Britannian Empire that's why I'm thinking of advising him to keep Brazil for the Dutch... as well as part of India... Let's see... The Dutch Republic is strong economically... however... it's like a mercantile United States that's operating under the Articles of Confederation... It's fragmented politically and even religiously... It has to have centralization...and I want him to create federalism in the Netherlands... since there's no America this time around... and Australia lacks political conditions to establish federalism on its own... so the United States of Australia will just follow Dutch federalism... Amazing!! Imagine the Venetians, Greeks, Genoese and the Dutch combined... within his empire... It's super amazing!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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![]() But seriously, I've read a thread here of "an alternate history of the Netherlands" and it's pretty amazing... The Dutch of the 16th century has all to make itself a superpower... yes, a superpower... but what it lacked is political centralization, at least in US federalism style... give it to the Dutch and have some Britannians reside in the Dutch Republic that has Belgium at the start... you'll have the Netherlands doing an Industrial Revolution the same period as Britannia... I've actually changed my mind about Britannia's capability to do an Industrial Revolution. They're capable of doing it. But I don't see as widespread as it was in OTL that the Dutch can still go even with Britannia at first. Hetalia, I suggest you leave the Dutch Republic to me..., since the Dutch provinces is tied to the history of the "Holy German Empire" and we still have to figure out how to connect Constantinople to Nuremberg to Amsterdam in your timeline... The perfect Dutch superpower is one that has Brazil. It could be done, especially if it has a Roman/German back-up..... I also see the Britannian invasion of Japan as something that more realistically could happen not because of Britannians powerful enough that others could just watch in the sidelines during the invasion... but because that the superpowers already secretly agreed before hand that Japan's mercantilistic policies on sakuradite has to stop.... with Britannians guaranteeing its freer distribution if it would be allowed to capture it.... The Oriental Incident must be something different.... And since I'm quite suspicious of Britannian territorial advances, I'm advising that Britannia not getting Brazil.... at least for Hetalia's case... That would give it more room to get Argentina and Chile by 2018 atb...
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Friends!
As you know, our more realistic Code Geass timelines had diverged too much from the cannon version, but nevertheless, made things more interesting and as what the goal is, more realistic indeed. However too maximize that, I'm suggesting a few things since you know, our POD is as early as 54 B.C. with more profound changes at 1059 A.D.
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The European dream
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WW2 analogy happens, Europe is devastated -> During rebuilding (and dodging Communism) the European dream emerges. A dream of a United Europe-> A council leads the Union which eventually elects a President -> Britannia invades Middle east -> Due to new rules to prevent warmongering individual countries are forbidden to go to war, instead they have to pension the president for the whole of Europe to go to war. -> Britain, backed up by France and the Netherlands offers to go to war, saying that Britannian conquest of the Middle East would lead to Europe being threatened -> The president rejects the notion denouncing the petitioning Nations as imperialistic and warmongers and citing that he was reassured by Britannia that they have no plans for Europe -> while arguing continues evidence is found that Britannia bribed the President to stop the member nations from interfering in the Middle East -> widespread condemnation occours, the President forced to Resign leading to efforts to reform the system -> by the time things are put in order it was far too late for the Middle East. Well looking at the logistics situation it would be insane for Britannia to consider invasion if you can't make sure the Europe would stay out of it. ..... Perhaps I would include hints that the main reason why the president accepted because ol' Charlie changed his memories in order to make him loyal to Britannia rather then Europe. Quote:
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AMERIWANK INTRODUCTION...
Is it good enough?? Check this out...
Alexander Washington was quietly clearing some land on his estate. There was still a cold chill in the air but while winter for the most part was in its last stages, it was time to prepare for planting again and as always that started with clearing land of winter debris. He was working on a particularly nasty fallen branch when a flash of blue light engulfed the field. His supposed “mistress”, a young blond woman who looks around 18 years old, was approaching Washington while the flash of blue light suddenly appeared. “What the hell…..”, She exclaimed but Washington seemed to have kept his cool while a man emerge from a portal of pure blue light. The man seems a bit nervous when he went out of the portal and looks around the place before looking on to see Washington. He looked half-startled, half-awed at Washington before regaining his composure and said…, “Are you Mr. Alexander Washington??” “I’ve been expecting you Mr. Stranger...”, Washington replied, greatly surprising the man as well as the woman, who is quietly watching the situation. “Whoa… So it’s true… You have the Power of Absolute Foresight…!”, “The Stranger” exclaimed. There was no English accent about him, yet he didn’t have the drawl of one of the Appalachian peoples. He was also quite dark skinned, almost like a darker colored Indian. And he also didn’t notice the woman who is now approaching him and Washington before she made her presence known to them. “Who are you??”, She asked “The Stranger”. The Stranger looks at her. “Are you the one who gave him Geass?”, he asked the woman. “Yes, Who are you?”, replying to his question while making him answer her own question. Now looking at the two of them, The Stranger gave his answer, “It’s not important who I am, but I am from the future as Mr. Washington seems to have known..... and” “I’ve got a feeling that you’re from the future but I don’t know how exactly you want me to save the world”. Washington interrupted, making The Stranger and the woman caught off guard by that statement. Regaining his composure while smiling slightly, The Stranger asked Washington, “Just how far in this world's possible futures you can see Mr. Washington?” “I can read lines of the future to about a few decades from now I believe. In cases of myself, there are cases of me dying in the battlefield. There are those that involving me hanged. I've seen my possible deaths. Also, there are those that has something to do with me not dying.”, Washington replied while sighing and looking at his female companion. The woman sadly returned his look, frowning at him. Washington continued, “But your coming looks like a peculiar case. Maybe you can clarify my possible futures of not dying.” “Well, Mr. Washington, I believe that it’s in your contractor’s discretion to tell you more of that one. But it could be related to the purpose of my coming here. As you all know now, I’m from the future. In the year 2028 in the year of Our Lord to be exact. Our technologies had grown so much for the past 250 years but our greed for power with its resulting divisions and conflicts continued. It’s still not happening but our world is now on a verge of war and a horrible evil that no man or woman will escape. And it’s going to happen. People who are now controlling our world are too corrupted to prevent it from happening. By the time this inevitable war starts, those same individuals will go against humanity itself and will put a horrible evil apocalypse to end man’s existence once and for all, and “to return man back to God and itself”, as they wanted to say. I’m sorry to say but I am once part of this diabolical plot to end our world as we know it. And I will not stop it from happening.”, “The Stranger" replied as his eyes tear up regretting his participation in his world’s coming apocalypse. Sighing loudly as he slowly took this terrible information, He asked, “So you came here to ask me to do something about it and it involves me uniting the world under the single banner of the United States of Nova Roma isn’t it?” “Yes. Our future is set, but this past’s future is still not. And I want to at least free myself from this heavy burden of sadness that I’m feeling by doing this. Even if it might cost me my life once my superiors happened to discover what I’m doing here. I want to die feeling less guilty of what I’ve done and for me to be able to rest my case in the afterlife that at least I’ve tried to do something in giving back to another humanity by giving it a chance of an everlasting peace and prosperity after I took part in making mine be destroyed. I could not think of any other individual than you Mr. Washington who can give this humanity that chance. You will foresee what we’ve done Mr. Washington and you will try to stop it. You failed. And we failed you. I’m sorry.” He cried after saying that. “Now I understand. Those visions that I’ve seen, they have something to do with me in trying to stop it. I don’t understand it at first. But now I know, I saw the future and I’m trying to stop it from happening. I don’t understand those cases that I’ve seen myself dead by the battlefield or by the gallows but I know that it has something to do with it.”, Washington contemplated as he took this new set of information that he’s receiving. “I don’t know what exactly have you done my friend but I forgive you. And to give you peace, and this world a chance at peace, I’ll gladly lend my hand to help you in this mission. I don’t know if I’m still alive or about what happened to me in your time, but maybe, you’ve got something to help me so that the case for our apocalypse to happen will lessen isn’t it?” “Yes! I’ve worked hard making these cool gadgets! Come on and try them!” The Stranger replied, happy at his remarks and enthusiastic in showing the two of them his inventions. “I’ve hidden this little project of mine to do such tools but I’m happy that I’ve managed to smuggle them to you here.” He opened a bag and brought out a strange metal ring. “Try this ring Mr. Washington. When you press this red button everyone that hears you speak will be inclined to believe you. It’s a form of mind control that will convince people to join your side. I’ve used some alchemical science using the Geass Power of Absolute Obedience in doing it. Remember though that you can’t take away free will from people. You can only influence them heavily. Immortals like Ms. C.C. here will be immune to it however.” The woman, who is now revealed to have the name “C.C.”, look at him, shocked that the Stranger knows her name, at least the name that she wants everyone to call her. Washington looked at the ring. It seemed simple enough. He tried to ask about the word "immortals" since he only knew of C.C. as the only immortal out there but the Stranger already reached into his bag again and pulled out a metal plate about a foot and a half in diameter. It had some buttons and a strange screen lit up with numbers and words. “This is a replicator. By pressing these buttons you can create any element known to man. Not all elements I’m sorry. I’ve disabled some of the dangerous ones that you have no need for but you can get all the gold, silver, lead, and iron you want from this.” The man pressed a button on the screen, the plate lit up and suddenly a bar of gold appeared. “Amazing. Look at this C.C.”, exclaimed a stunned Washington examining the gold. “It’s a real gold bar!”. He couldn’t control himself in exclaiming that this could happen. “The replicator is one of the very reasons that I definitely choose you to handle this mission. I couldn’t think of giving it to a king that could get corrupted over time by the use of this device. I’m thinking of going instead to the Roman Grand Logothete but I don’t have trust in the Romans anymore. The best country that I could think of that will save this world from the moral corruption of Geass is the one about to be born now. And what’s better is to give it to one of its founding fathers that knows Geass already.” “Geass corrupted mankind I see. This power is truly more of a curse than a gift. Our world would be better without it. But I know that it could save us from disaster as well. I will use my Geass for the betterment of others rather than myself. You can trust me on this.” Washington said that with determination in his eyes. The Stranger smiled on that. “I know sir. But I don’t have much time with you to discuss the relationship between Geass and immortality. C.C. will do that talking to you. I have to remind you as well that she is not the only immortal out there. There are always two lines of immortals around for centuries for your information. We don’t have knowledge of who is that immortal in this time but that person is the one that will give Geass to Ramon Bolivar of Spanish Nova Roma to pursue his Latin Nova Roman wars of independence. One of the reasons that led to our unfortunate future are the divisions within Geass users and immortals. That’s why I want you to locate this other immortal and sway him to join your side. Your ring will not help though. I’m sorry.” The Stranger then pulled out a small black rectangle from the bag. “This is your teleporter”. The rectangle flipped open and the Stranger showed Washington how to work the touch screen and the internal GPS. “With this teleporter, you can go anywhere in the world and coordinate people way easier than normal. You can go past sieges and blockades and smuggle goods with you. It has many uses for your mission as well.” Then, the Stranger pulled a device that looked like a silver pocket-watch out of the bag. “This is a communication device”, He explained. “You can use it to talk to other people with similar devices, even on the other side of the world.” He showed Washington how to operate it, using a second device that he gave to C.C. to prove his point. Both C.C. and Washington marveled at the tools while C.C. asked, “How such tools are possible to be invented?” “Don’t worry about the technology Miss C.C., if this mission gets successful, this world might be already on that stage where someone like me could make these devices. You’ve got the models now so it would be easier. For now, I would leave both of you with more of these devices here in the bag. Use it wisely Ms. C.C., Mr. Washington. Now, I can go back relieved that I’ve done my part. Thank you Mr. Washington. May God help you Unite the World to Save the World. God Bless Nova Roma!” And then he smiled and disappeared in another flash leaving his bag. Both C.C. and Washington were stunned at his departure. Washington is frustrated that he couldn’t ask him to stay and join him in his mission. C.C. went to the bag and looked inside; there were four more rings and communication devices with two more replicator plates and teleporters. “Hmmm…. Unite the World to Save the World… How hard it could be Alex??”, she sarcastically asked Washington. “We really need to talk C.C. And you know what I want to talk about.”
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....... ummm well I can say I am the best judge of english. All my English did was just read of long list of words and expect us to copy them, the most gramma I leaned was from my mother when I gave her fanfics to proof-read. Well let me try my best. 1. Tenses, it seems like very person who doesn't have English as a first language (and some who do) has trouble with thi . I seems like you are putting everything in the past tense but you still make the slip up of putted "look" instead of "looked." 2. Comma's, I don't really know the proper uses of Comma's but I heard that a good rule to follow is only use it once per sentence. 3. More full stops. Short sentences aren't necessary a bad thing. You use them when you go from one thing to another (e.g if a character is performing two actions then have a sentance per action) 4. Personally, you should always pay attention to define what character is the focus when you uses words like 'he' or 'she' Instead of Quote:
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Ah... ok... yes... the tenses problem... I'll check into that... as well as the cases of using "he" or "she"....
Did my sentences seemed long?? Sure, I don't have a problem with short sentences. I'll use a different format for my stories to emphasize them... Times New Roman looks good... I'll just have to make them bigger... My writing style seems repetitive... Yes... I've noticed... Thanks for your thoughts!
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Guys, did I already mentioned about making another TL? Because practically I'm finished with all of them since I wouldn't have to edit some of them. Also, there was an author who wanted to create a new Gundam TL where in this TL the protagonist fights off against the other Gundam universe.
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Hey guys.
My University decided to arrange one of my modules into a week long block so I won't have much time to post nor work on my TL. Quote:
Why would you use Nuclear Weapons as a first resort? Why would you support a terrorist group which attacks the very colonies your are exploting? HOW COME A SMALL ISLAND IN THE PACIFIC MANAGE TO BUILD ITS OWN SPACE COLONY AND MAKE CUTTING EDGE FIGHTING ROBOTS!!!!!!! |
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