Flag Thread II

[Orko]

Originally Posted by Oren_neu_dag

Sorry, but regardless of the content, writing on flags is a big No No! it's just bad.

Unless it's caligraphy, or national motto written in a nice way like in the Brazilian or Spanish flags(though I personally don't like that either).

[Iori]

Originally Posted by Oren_neu_dag

Sorry, but regardless of the content, writing on flags is a big No No! it's just bad.

That is fo course your opinion.

Personally I think it depends, yes having large amount of text all over the flag is negative, but a small to medium amount depending on its placement can look quite good.

[Orioes]

Originally Posted by Oren_neu_dag

Sorry, but regardless of the content, writing on flags is a big No No! it's just bad.

Often true, but of the ten or twelve designs I did it was the least horrendous looking. For some reason I can't find a pleasing vexillological way to say "Militant Pan-Abrahamic Ottoman Successor state" that is within my artistic limits. The other runner-up was this which I think is even worse.

[Alternate_Oregon]

I have a request! Could someone make the flag seen here into a larger clean version please? Thanks! Even a vector file (svg) would be cool too!

[Jimbrock]

About the whole Union Jack debate, it really is quite an ingenious piece of work. I did draw up a Great Britain, Netherlands, and Ireland Flag but after lots of thinking and what I thought was clever reasoning it turned out rather similar to the OTL Jack because of the white and blue in the Dutch flag. It would probably work better with other countries, but whatever. The British model is a very versatile one.

[Oren_neu_dag]

Originally Posted by Oren_neu_dag

And so i present to you the Flag of the United Kingdom of Platenia:

Can I please get a feedback? It means A Lot for me!

[Nekromans]

Originally Posted by Oren_neu_dag

Can I please get a feedback? It means A Lot for me!

That is a hell of a nice flag, and the Bourbon flag series on general look a) pretty and b) historically plausible.

[Abdul Hadi Pasha]

Originally Posted by Orioes

Very nice. Simple but not dull. Good colors. The only problem I could see is that if you used it as a naval ensign it may be difficult to make out at range against a sky blue background.

Not a problem, as the country is totally land-locked.

The flag of the Abrahamic Union the Israel equivalent in my TL. Sorry if anyone feels offended by it's contents.

While I don't even understand people's objections to writing on flags, I think maybe there's a bit too much here. Writing is fine if it's meaning is understandable at a glance. What do the Hebrew & Greek say?

Also, blue is usually the color associated with Christianity, but I guess that's not really important.

[W.W.A.F.T.]

Originally Posted by Frige

But isn't that a bit of a copout?

personally I think that's quite good.

[kirrix]

Originally Posted by Abdul Hadi Pasha

Also, blue is usually the color associated with Christianity, but I guess that's not really important.

Perhaps historically, but in the modern era it is more often associated with Judaism because of the blue on "standard" tallit and the flag of Israel.

[Abdul Hadi Pasha]

Originally Posted by Oren_neu_dag

And so i present to you the Flag of the United Kingdom of Platenia:

For me, it's too busy, and the shade of red doesn't go with the blue. How about if you delete the diagonal stripe, and just put a single fleur de lys in the white field? What does the red diagonal strike represent?

[Abdul Hadi Pasha]

Originally Posted by kirrix

Perhaps historically, but in the modern era it is more often associated with Judaism because of the blue on "standard" tallit and the flag of Israel.

Yes, I know, but he's talking about a successor state to the Ottoman Empire - in his TL there has never been an Israel.

[Abdul Hadi Pasha]

Originally Posted by Orioes

Often true, but of the ten or twelve designs I did it was the least horrendous looking. For some reason I can't find a pleasing vexillological way to say "Militant Pan-Abrahamic Ottoman Successor state" that is within my artistic limits. The other runner-up was this which I think is even worse.

I think a triangular orientation is better to avoid hierarchy. In both flags, you have Judaism-Christianity-Islam. In a circular arrangement the implied hierarchy is avoided.

Here's an interesting set of symbols that would look good on flags:



You might also consider the Orthodox cross, or at least one that looks more eastern.

[Iori]

An alternate Singapore flag I made for a project I scrapped awhile ago.

[Iserlohn]

Originally Posted by Iori

An alternate Singapore flag I made for a project I scrapped awhile ago.

No, a grinning mutant spider! Kill it, kill it with fire!

[Iori]

Originally Posted by Iserlohn

No, a grinning mutant spider! Kill it, kill it with fire!

Dude, I want some of whatever you're smoking.

[Orioes]

Originally Posted by Abdul Hadi Pasha

While I don't even understand people's objections to writing on flags, I think maybe there's a bit too much here. Writing is fine if it's meaning is understandable at a glance. What do the Hebrew & Greek say?

The Hebrew is the Shema Yisrael ("Hear O Israel, YHWH is our God, YHWH is One!"). Basically the Jewish equivalent of the Shahadah. The Greek is a shortened version of the first line of the Apostle's Creed ("I believe in one God, Creator of Heaven and Earth") which seemed the closest thing I could find to a short declaration of faith. Particularly one that jived with strong monotheistic declarations of the others.

Originally Posted by Abdul Hadi Pasha

Also, blue is usually the color associated with Christianity, but I guess that's not really important.

My thought was:
Blue: Tekhelet in the tzitzit.
Red: Blood of Christ
Green: Traditionally associated with Islam.
I also found the symbolism of red blue and green light creating white light somewhat appealing.

Originally Posted by Abdul Hadi Pasha

I think a triangular orientation is better to avoid hierarchy. In both flags, you have Judaism-Christianity-Islam. In a circular arrangement the implied hierarchy is avoided.

Here's an interesting set of symbols that would look good on flags:

Excellent idea, that is a vast improvement over what I had before and the symbols are much more visually appealing then the standard SoD, SaC and cross. Is there any particular significance to that arabesque or is it just an example of such? Come to think of it using representations of art styles instead of religious symbols might be interesting. Perhaps Arabic, Hebrew and Greek calligrams.

Originally Posted by Abdul Hadi Pasha

You might also consider the Orthodox cross, or at least one that looks more eastern.

I think the Greek cross I used in the second might work better then the Eastern Orthodox from an ITL perspective as IOTL it is and was used by the Orthodox, it bears some resemblance to the New Coptic Cross and as it was used by early Christians so the OCs can't really complain it doesn't represent them.

[Abdul Hadi Pasha]

Originally Posted by Orioes

The Hebrew is the Shema Yisrael ("Hear O Israel, YHWH is our God, YHWH is One!"). Basically the Jewish equivalent of the Shahadah. The Greek is a shortened version of the first line of the Apostle's Creed ("I believe in one God, Creator of Heaven and Earth") which seemed the closest thing I could find to a short declaration of faith. Particularly one that jived with strong monotheistic declarations of the others.

My thought was:
Blue: Tekhelet in the tzitzit.
Red: Blood of Christ
Green: Traditionally associated with Islam.
I also found the symbolism of red blue and green light creating white light somewhat appealing.

Excellent idea, that is a vast improvement over what I had before and the symbols are much more visually appealing then the standard SoD, SaC and cross. Is there any particular significance to that arabesque or is it just an example of such? Come to think of it using representations of art styles instead of religious symbols might be interesting. Perhaps Arabic, Hebrew and Greek calligrams.

I think the Greek cross I used in the second might work better then the Eastern Orthodox from an ITL perspective as IOTL it is and was used by the Orthodox, it bears some resemblance to the New Coptic Cross and as it was used by early Christians so the OCs can't really complain it doesn't represent them.

The Arabic thing is just a stylized version of what you had on your flag. That sort of thing is very commonly done, especially in the Perso-Ottoman world.

If you're looking for a short Greek script, there's always the classic ΙΧΘΥΣ.

[JJDXB]

A New Flag for Jainism:

ATL: A group of Jainist expats in Europe have decided that flying the current flag would be too controversial, as it contains the Swastika. To rectify this, they replace the Swastika with the "Jain Hand" symbolising the vow of Ahimsa (non Harm). Red, Yellow, White, Orange, Green and Black are traditional colours, whilst blue was added to give extra status to the dharmacakra (24 spoked wheel of incarnation)

There are three versions, only one can be selected.

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[Highlander]

I dreamt a dream last night, and this was in it.

It was on some posers anarchist T-Shirt.