Something I don't get.

[Venusian Si]

While I'm sure this has been discussed before...Ehh, What the hell, I'll do it again

Now I must ask, "Why does essentially every Confederate States Wins TL has the C.S.A having it's own Whig Party?"

If I remember Correctly, the Whig Party before the Time of Lincoln's Party was viewed by Southerners as the biggest threat to slavery...even if party platform was very wishy-washy. So why would a Confederate American ever start a Whig Party?

[Sachyriel]

Because a party is not defined by a single issue. Canadian Conservatives and American Conservatives have different policies, it's the standard of their own society by which a political party makes it's stance, not any other nation's society.

[Venusian Si]

Originally Posted by mmmeee0

Because a party is not defined by a single issue. Canadian Conservatives and American Conservatives have different policies, it's the standard of their own society by which a political party makes it's stance, not any other nation's society.

Policies aside, I would think history would want to make Confederates be a little more creative when it comes to naming a political party. Still, I might just be ignoring another important Historical Link.

[Sachyriel]

Originally Posted by UnitedStatesofMars13

Policies aside, I would think history would want to make Confederates be a little more creative when it comes to naming a political party. Still, I might just be ignoring another important Historical Link.

Well your original reason was that the CSA dislikes party names in the North because of their policies. What was Lincoln, and was there a party liek his in the South? Aside from the obvious "No secession" thing.

[Venusian Si]

Originally Posted by mmmeee0

Well your original reason was that the CSA dislikes party names in the North because of their policies. What was Lincoln, and was there a party liek his in the South? Aside from the obvious "No secession" thing.

Well, it was meant to come out like that. It was just that the Whig Party was (in Southern eyes) the party of Abolitionists a.k.a the "haters" of the Southern Way. So, it just seems odd to me that a Confederate party would use that name do to History.

[LightInfa]

Originally Posted by UnitedStatesofMars13

Well, it was meant to come out like that. It was just that the Whig Party was (in Southern eyes) the party of Abolitionists a.k.a the "haters" of the Southern Way. So, it just seems odd to me that a Confederate party would use that name do to History.

There were plenty of Southern Whigs. If there hadn't been any Southern Whigs, there would have been no reason for the Whigs to disintegrate.

[Venusian Si]

Originally Posted by LightInfa

There were plenty of Southern Whigs. If there hadn't been any Southern Whigs, there would have been no reason for the Whigs to disintegrate.

Disintegrate? Sorry, but I don't follow. While there might of been Southern Whigs, Southern Democrats would have dominated, and the term Whig would of been made even more unpopular due to Lincoln's ex-membership.

Which brings up another point, why does the Democrat party in CSA TLs always survive in the U.S. but essentially never in the Confederate States?

[LightInfa]

Originally Posted by UnitedStatesofMars13

Disintegrate? Sorry, but I don't follow. While there might of been Southern Whigs, Southern Democrats would have dominated, and the term Whig would of been made even more unpopular due to Lincoln's ex-membership.

Which brings up another point, why does the Democrat party in CSA TLs always survive in the U.S. but essentially never in the Confederate States?

You were saying that Southerners saw the Whigs as haters of the Southern way. I responded to that with by comment that there were plenty of Southern Whigs. If the Whigs had been purely northern abolitionists, then their party would not have broken up in the 1850s because of slavery.

[Venusian Si]

Originally Posted by LightInfa

You were saying that Southerners saw the Whigs as haters of the Southern way. I responded to that with by comment that there were plenty of Southern Whigs. If the Whigs had been purely northern abolitionists, then their party would not have broken up in the 1850s because of slavery.

Ahh that makes much more sense. Graci.

[Hawkeye]

Originally Posted by UnitedStatesofMars13

Which brings up another point, why does the Democrat party in CSA TLs always survive in the U.S. but essentially never in the Confederate States?

In my old series of election maps the Democrats moved south. In fact I think I can recall several map that showed no Whig party at all, and in Bring th Jubilee the Whigs are a party in the US. Maybe your not looking in the right places.