Caliphate by Kratman - Page 3

Archangel Michael · #41 February 11th, 2009, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by LordMoogi

Wow, that's a start-to-ban life of 13 posts. Is this a record?

There's people who are banned because of their first post.

Dave Howery · #42 February 11th, 2009, 05:34 PM

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Then the US invades Canada.

I must go out and buy this book right now!
*runs out of room*

Lordofthedogs · #43 February 11th, 2009, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by norm4064

Great book.
Shows what COULD happen if current policies of LIBERAL think continue. What I got out of this is the only thing better than a dead moslem is 300 million of them.

No, It isn't that bad, it is worse!

To paraphrase Kratman (11:00)

"we end up killing some 800 million odd musslims in retaliation"

Redem · #44 February 11th, 2009, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Lordofthedogs

No, It isn't that bad, it is worse!

To paraphrase Kratman (11:00)

"we end up killing some 800 million odd musslims in retaliation"

and I'm pretty sure at no time whatsoever will people think its disportionnate according to the author logic

LordMoogi · #45 February 11th, 2009, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Landshark

Not even close.

Damn. Here I was, thinking that I'd witnessed history in the making. So, have there been people banned before they could make a single post? Like, a guy who sends hate-PMs to everyone?

Canis Lupus · #46 February 11th, 2009, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by LordMoogi

Damn. Here I was, thinking that I'd witnessed history in the making. So, have there been people banned before they could make a single post? Like, a guy who sends hate-PMs to everyone?

Spambots and sockpuppets of banned members like Straha and Collins are usualy gone before they hit the 10 post mark.

Landshark · #47 February 11th, 2009, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by LordMoogi

Damn. Here I was, thinking that I'd witnessed history in the making. So, have there been people banned before they could make a single post? Like, a guy who sends hate-PMs to everyone?

Take a look at the posts of Kespla in Future History. Four posts, three of them demanding to be banned.

Lordofthedogs · #48 February 12th, 2009, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Redem

and I'm pretty sure at no time whatsoever will people think its disportionnate according to the author logic

I think it was clear in the B5 interviews that Kratman didn't actually like the "Caliphate" world, the same way Sterling doesn't like the Drakaverse. The world is a dystopia, and even the characters in it think of it as a "Shitty World."

So tell me, with your complete moral superiority; what would be the correct response in case we get nuked or worse, a bio weapon is released?

I think an even response is the minimum called for.
complete genocide the worst possible reaction.

For my take on an extreme but fair response:

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I'd prefer something like a decimation policy, for sheer coldness.
I wouldn't just obliderate Mecca right off, I'd salt it as a standing threat "try that again and it will hurt."

the reason a greater counter response to America isn't brought up is that beyond the stated one, there wouldn't be any meaningful one, none of the other nuclear nations will risk escalating.

Zyzzyva · #49 February 12th, 2009, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Landshark

Take a look at the posts of Kespla in Future History. Four posts, three of them demanding to be banned.

...And I though "begging" was a metaphor there...

Doctor What · #50 February 12th, 2009, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Lordofthedogs

So tell me, with your complete moral superiority; what would be the correct response in case we get nuked or worse, a bio weapon is released?

I'm thinking that a correct response will be something like, oh, finding the group that was responsible for said attack and attacking them -- rather than what seems to be the response in his novels and among many of his supporters -- i.e. nuking anyone who has a swarthy complexion.

But hey -- I'm just using vaguely rational and logical ideas here--sue me...

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I think an even response is the minimum called for.
complete genocide the worst possible reaction.

For my take on an extreme but fair response:

the reason a greater counter response to America isn't brought up is that beyond the stated one, there wouldn't be any meaningful one, none of the other nuclear nations will risk escalating.

It was nice knowing you...

Archangel Michael · #51 February 12th, 2009, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Zyzzyva

...And I though "begging" was a metaphor there...

Why...why would somebody do that?

Lordofthedogs · #52 February 12th, 2009, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Doctor What

It was nice knowing you...

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From Tom Kratman
Go for it. And yes, Ian's seems to be a prick. The problem is he doesn't understand what a very little prick he is.

Thanks for the good words.
best,
Tom

From Tom Kratman
No surprise. Ian is, at core, a loser.

Fuck Ian. . . . .

***Ian the Admin*** · #53 February 12th, 2009, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Lordofthedogs

For my take on an extreme but fair response:

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I'd prefer something like a decimation policy, for sheer coldness.
I wouldn't just obliderate Mecca right off, I'd salt it as a standing threat "try that again and it will hurt."

Mass murder of innocent people, right.

Banned.

Highlander · #54 February 12th, 2009, 02:17 AM

So, was this Kratman guy banned here? What user name was he under?

Zyzzyva · #55 February 12th, 2009, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Ian the Admin

Mass murder of innocent people, right.

Banned.

I am shocked. Shocked.

Archangel Michael · #56 February 12th, 2009, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Highlander

So, was this Kratman guy banned here? What user name was he under?

Tom Kratman.

Doctor What · #57 February 12th, 2009, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Highlander

So, was this Kratman guy banned here? What user name was he under?

Tom Kratman, believe it or not--and he wasn't banned.

There was a review of one of his books, everybody did what has been been happening here (i.e. ripping into it), he showed up to explain himself, got into a yelling match with Ian, called him a pussy and a bunch of other stuff and left in a huff and never posted again.

Here's the thread where he first showed up