Upper Canada, The 14th Colony

[A Random Person]

The British won the battle of the Plains of Abraham, but at a high price. There was not enough soldiers to force the treaty, or to keep the peace in Upper Canada. Pretty soon the York Militia joins the Continental Army, after being displeased with the lack of control the Redcoats had on controlling the unrest...

What next? Plausible?

[Zyzzyva]

Er... uh... um... well... you see...

1) Upper Canada was founded in 1791. In the ARW, it was part of Quebec.

2) During the ARW, it was a howling wilderness. A couple of seigneuries, along the Ottawa, and easternmost stretch of the St Lawrence before Montreal; not much else.

3) York was founded in 1793 by Loyalists. The UELs, who were the ones even more Loyalist than the others.

4) A heavy toll at Abraham means more regulars brought over from Britain or the Colonies, not militia levies from the (nonexistent) Anglo settlers of Quebec.

5) More to the point, once Montcalm (and, since we're assuming a British Quebec here, de Levis) are defeated, there's no threat to British control of Quebec, really. The Quebecois, from 1760 -> ~1900, are more notable for their complete indifference to who ran the place than anything else.

6) More really, really to the point, Ontario was only marginally more European-settled than Wyoming at this time. It won't revolt (and if it does, it will literally be unnoticed, since its Anglo population was something like 2).

In short... uh, no. Implausible doesn't cut it; NS could have been the 14th colony but the nonexistent "colony" of Upper Canada certainly couldn't.

EDIT: Er, also, "the Regular Army is suppressing things ineffectively!" is just about the worst standard for revolt I've ever heard...

[Doctor What]

Originally Posted by Zyzzyva

2) During the ARW, it was a howling wilderness. A couple of seigneuries, along the Ottawa, and easternmost stretch of the St Lawrence before Montreal; not much else.

Indeed. IIRC -- the settlement didn't begin to jump until after the War of 1812 when they were practically giving the land away to anyone who had fought on Canada's side. Before then --wasn't most of that territory pretty much just 'clergy reserves' or something?

[Zyzzyva]

Originally Posted by Doctor What

Indeed. IIRC -- the settlement didn't begin to jump until after the War of 1812 when they were practically giving the land away to anyone who had fought on Canada's side. Before then --wasn't most of that territory pretty much just 'clergy reserves' or something?

Nah - pre-1812, with the Loyalists being the big boom. They started giving away the land before 1812 too, IIRC; The C:APH 1812 ep talked a lot about the fact that the government was freaking over all the American immigrants of unknown loyalty who'd moved in in the last decade or so. Spoiler: It works out OK for Canada.

[Trotsky]

Originally Posted by A Random Person

The British won the battle of the Plains of Abraham, but at a high price. There was not enough soldiers to force the treaty, or to keep the peace in Upper Canada. Pretty soon the York Militia joins the Continental Army, after being displeased with the lack of control the Redcoats had on controlling the unrest...

What next? Plausible?

No. It's not like the same regiments would be stationed in a far off colony for more than a few years, and even if they were, they would be reinforced. Also, the Quebec Act would remove much potential unrest before the English colonies rose.

[Dan1988]

Originally Posted by Doctor What

Indeed. IIRC -- the settlement didn't begin to jump until after the War of 1812 when they were practically giving the land away to anyone who had fought on Canada's side. Before then --wasn't most of that territory pretty much just 'clergy reserves' or something?

Didn't some of the anglophones settle in the Eastern Townships after the American Revolution?

[Umbric Man]

Originally Posted by Dan1988

Didn't some of the anglophones settle in the Eastern Townships after the American Revolution?

Many did, but the most by far went to the future New Brunswick (34,000), followed by Ontario (10,000) and (I believe) the Bahamas (8,000 or so).