Things that look like alternate history, but aren't

[metastasis_d]

Originally Posted by Napoleon53

U.S. Army.




EDIT: Wait, that isn't quite it... I wonder what is now, too...

Looks like the Army flag to me.

[Emperor Norton I]

Originally Posted by Marc Pasquin

...or hipster...... which might be worst.....

The sketch I'm referring to is Hipsterish now, so it's all zen.

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-li...titute/278701/

[Thande]

There was once a short-lived US political party called the "Southern Rights Party". All right, so it was one of those chip-on-shoulder sore-loser neo-Confederate outfits that opposed civil rights for blacks, right?

Except the election it stood at was 1852, before the US Civil War, when the Democratic nominee and eventual winner (Franklin Pierce) was pro-slavery anyway?

[Maponus]

Originally Posted by Thande

There was once a short-lived US political party called the "Southern Rights Party". All right, so it was one of those chip-on-shoulder sore-loser neo-Confederate outfits that opposed civil rights for blacks, right?

Except the election it stood at was 1852, before the US Civil War, when the Democratic nominee and eventual winner (Franklin Pierce) was pro-slavery anyway?

That doesn't surprise me at all.

Sorry.

[Petike]

I've been reading lately about the history of biodiversity in several highly industrialized and urbanized European nations, particularly the UK. And I was really surprised when I learned that one of the extinct species of big mammals in Britain are...

...wild boars ?!

Seriously, given the reputation of these beasties (they're as common as dirt in most of Europe), I'd expect deer species in Britain to go extinct sooner than the rather hardy boar.

Were boars hunted to (temporary) extinction in the past because they were viewed as an agricultural pest ? Or was it because they weren't seen as "worthy enough" big game, compared to deers ?

[Pkmatrix]

Originally Posted by Petike

I've been reading lately about the history of biodiversity in several highly industrialized and urbanized European nations, particularly the UK. And I was really surprised when I learned that one of the extinct species of big mammals in Britain are...

...wild boars ?!

Seriously, given the reputation of these beasties (they're as common as dirt in most of Europe), I'd expect deer species in Britain to go extinct sooner than the rather hardy boar.

Were boars hunted to (temporary) extinction in the past because they were viewed as an agricultural pest ? Or was it because they weren't seen as "worthy enough" big game, compared to deers ?

Wait, there aren't any wild boars in Britain? That's rather random.

[Beedok]

Originally Posted by Petike

I've been reading lately about the history of biodiversity in several highly industrialized and urbanized European nations, particularly the UK. And I was really surprised when I learned that one of the extinct species of big mammals in Britain are...

...wild boars ?!

Seriously, given the reputation of these beasties (they're as common as dirt in most of Europe), I'd expect deer species in Britain to go extinct sooner than the rather hardy boar.

Were boars hunted to (temporary) extinction in the past because they were viewed as an agricultural pest ? Or was it because they weren't seen as "worthy enough" big game, compared to deers ?

Probably the aggressiveness. Like they wiped out the carnivores. Anything that didn't run was killed.

[Thande]

Originally Posted by Petike

I've been reading lately about the history of biodiversity in several highly industrialized and urbanized European nations, particularly the UK. And I was really surprised when I learned that one of the extinct species of big mammals in Britain are...

...wild boars ?!

Seriously, given the reputation of these beasties (they're as common as dirt in most of Europe), I'd expect deer species in Britain to go extinct sooner than the rather hardy boar.

Were boars hunted to (temporary) extinction in the past because they were viewed as an agricultural pest ? Or was it because they weren't seen as "worthy enough" big game, compared to deers ?

Originally Posted by Pkmatrix

Wait, there aren't any wild boars in Britain? That's rather random.

From my POV it seems strange that you'd think there are still wild boars in Britain: those went out with bears and wolves (it's part of our national identity, the idea of running into a dangerous animal in Britain is absurd; Britain and Ireland are 'safe', everywhere else is barbarian lands inhabited by dangerous predators). They were hunted to extinction in the 13th century. Having said that, they were reintroduced for farming in the 1980s, and according to the Genocide:

1998 MAFF (now DEFRA) study on wild boar living wild in Britain confirmed the presence of two populations of wild boar living in Britain; one in Kent/East Sussex and another in Dorset.[21]

Another DEFRA report, in February 2008,[24] confirmed the existence of these two sites as 'established breeding areas' and identified a third in Gloucestershire/Herefordshire; in the Forest of Dean/Ross on Wye area. A 'new breeding population' was also identified in Devon.

[Alamo]

Originally Posted by Iori

Wait, he's black?

Several "black" politicians tend to use the "one drop" rule even when the vast majority of people would look at them and not consider them black. A good example would be congressman George Butterfield.

[metastasis_d]

Originally Posted by Thande

There was once a short-lived US political party called the "Southern Rights Party". All right, so it was one of those chip-on-shoulder sore-loser neo-Confederate outfits that opposed civil rights for blacks, right?

Except the election it stood at was 1852, before the US Civil War, when the Democratic nominee and eventual winner (Franklin Pierce) was pro-slavery anyway?

It's almost as if they knew that slavery was impossible to sustain and would never last.

[LordInsane]

Originally Posted by Pkmatrix

Wait, there aren't any wild boars in Britain? That's rather random.

Why would there be? Sweden have seen boars hunted to extinction twice, and the last re-colonisation was done via escapes from enclosures. Britain might simply not have had enough successful escapes from such enclosures (for one reason or the other) for a population to be re-established.

[Petike]

Originally Posted by Pkmatrix

Wait, there aren't any wild boars in Britain? That's rather random.

That's precisely what I thought when I stumbled upon that fact.

[stateless_englishman]

Originally Posted by Pkmatrix

Wait, there aren't any wild boars in Britain? That's rather random.

Actually, there are now. In the 1980s British farmers started farming wild boars. There were escapes, and breeding populations were established in Kent/East Sussex, Dorset, Gloucestershire/Herefordshire, and Devon. There are probably around 500 wild wild boars in England.

[Beedok]

Originally Posted by stateless_englishman

Actually, there are now. In the 1980s British farmers started farming wild boars. There were escapes, and breeding populations were established in Kent/East Sussex, Dorset, Gloucestershire/Herefordshire, and Devon. There are probably around 500 wild wild boars in England.

Do Scots go wrestle them for a morning cardeo?

[Pkmatrix]

Originally Posted by Thande

From my POV it seems strange that you'd think there are still wild boars in Britain: those went out with bears and wolves (it's part of our national identity, the idea of running into a dangerous animal in Britain is absurd; Britain and Ireland are 'safe', everywhere else is barbarian lands inhabited by dangerous predators). They were hunted to extinction in the 13th century. Having said that, they were reintroduced for farming in the 1980s, and according to the Genocide:

Originally Posted by LordInsane

Why would there be? Sweden have seen boars hunted to extinction twice, and the last re-colonisation was done via escapes from enclosures. Britain might simply not have had enough successful escapes from such onclosures (for one reason or the other) for a population to be re-established.

Originally Posted by stateless_englishman

Actually, there are now. In the 1980s British farmers started farming wild boars. There were escapes, and breeding populations were established in Kent/East Sussex, Dorset, Gloucestershire/Herefordshire, and Devon. There are probably around 500 wild wild boars in England.

I dunno, I just can't imagine the forest without predators. I mean, where's the fun in that? Half the thrill of taking a hike through the woods is wondering if you'll stumble across some beast! I mean, a deer is one thing and Turkeys are fun, but a bear? THAT's something you post on Twitter. That goes double for boar (I don't even know if we have wild boar in NJ), and probably triple for like wolves and cougars.

[LordInsane]

Originally Posted by Pkmatrix

I dunno, I just can't imagine the forest without predators. I mean, where's the fun in that? Half the thrill of taking a hike through the woods is wondering if you'll stumble across some beast! I mean, a deer is one thing and Turkeys are fun, but a bear? THAT's something you post on Twitter. That goes double for boar (I don't even know if we have wild boar in NJ), and probably triple for like wolves and cougars.

Given the bolded thing, why would you have problems with the concept of boars not existing in a limited area? It is only when combined with the absence of other creatures that it becomes peculiar.

[Napoleon53]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBtly...eature=related

If Born This Way was sung by Elvis.

[SavoyTruffle]

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Los Angeles Dodgers first baseman Grant Hill?

[metastasis_d]

Originally Posted by Napoleon53

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBtly...eature=related

If Born This Way was sung by Elvis.

I'm gonna have to download these guys' discography...

[Beedok]

Originally Posted by metastasis_d

I'm gonna have to download these guys' discography...

Disc-ography or Disco-graphy?