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Old June 24th, 2011, 08:30 PM
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If this keeps going on, there will be less and less people left in the US who are not hated and consequently discriminated against There can't be THAT many WASPs, right?
Wasp isn't a protection, think of the things that happened otl.
you are only safe when you are WARP'ed (white, anglo-saxon rich protestant)

So what group is next? francophone (canadiens)?
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Old June 24th, 2011, 08:39 PM
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It is going to be one herculean task, straightening out again the US armed forces in general and the Army in particular. The number of alcoholics and drug users must be in the low to medium five figures by now.

When even hardcases like Patton are contemplating resigning their command, things mut really be rotten.

I am starting to think that the "softkill" approach by the Mexicans might be another way to severely weaken their northern bully, uh, neighbor. Drug and alcohol dependencies, STDs, complete erosion of good order and discipline along with the most basic socially acceptable behavior. Lots of crimes waiting to happen after the men return home.
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Old June 24th, 2011, 09:10 PM
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Patton resigning?! That would be interesting to say the least.
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Old June 25th, 2011, 08:26 AM
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Patton resigning?! That would be interesting to say the least.
And then he leads a new "bring the boys home" and anti-drug movement to rebuild a professional army at home without the drugs.
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Old June 25th, 2011, 08:29 AM
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When you grow suspicious of a person and begin a system of espionage upon him, your punishment will be that you will find your suspicions true.
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Getting into town disguised as an Irish businessman had been easy, getting any information turned out to be extremely difficult. These Venezuelans were extremely easygoing, so easygoing that nobody seemed to care about anything.

Sam Myers had chosen the port of Higuerote, some 30 miles east of Caracas, as entry point for his mission. His task was to find out who operated a radio station near the Venezuelan capital that corresponded with a station in West Africa. Myers understood that some female Russian secret agent and unidentified submarines had been involved in an incident on Cuba. Now, the FSO had been tasked to investigate the Venezuelan background to these events. This Russian woman was known to have sent a message on the frequency used by that mysterious radio station.

The USS Abilene was an FSO spy ship normally active in European waters. She had been home for overhaul – and overhaul just completed – been ordered to carry Myers to Venezuela and back again. Because Americans were not very popular in Venezuela one had chosen to mask the ship as an Irish tramp freighter and Myers as an Irish tradesman. The crew would remain at Higuerote, while Myers travelled to Caracas.

Being fluent in Spanish and experienced in Latino environments, Myers had no problems in moving around in the population. He cheaply had bought a used car and driven it to Caracas. Finding a decent hotel room had been more challenging; the standards of cleanliness and hygiene were very poor in most houses.

Now, Myers was searching for some former informants. There had been a number of indigenes on the payroll of the Caracas FSO bureau before it had burnt down together with the rest of the US embassy. He had a nice list, but the addresses provided did not yield the persons he was searching for.

He soon realised that the persons he was looking for had belonged to the former ruling elite, the Mantuanos, and today were either dead, in prison or in exile. So, that list didn’t help any longer; he would have to look for some new tipsters.

People were not unfriendly – and one could freely ask a lot of questions, but the answers one got were utter crap. These folks were caring about the next parranda they were going to attend, but hardly about anything else…
When he found somebody hard working, it regularly was foreign worker; the Venezuelans were much more intend on feasting than on labouring.

Then, he discovered that going to a parranda could provide him with valuable information. The Venezuelans seemed to make their business arrangements and agreements at these parties – before they got drunk or doped – or both...
Myers was not shy of Negroes, Mulattoes, Indios, Mestizoes and other non-white people. He had lived long enough on Puerto Rico and in Central America to view them as ordinary people. Thus, he felt quite at home at the parranda he had invited himself to visit. The food and the beverages were good and the mood was friendly. Several times, he was invited to tell his cover story – and several times he was invited to other parrandas further down the week.

Then he overheard two guys talking about Middle Africans. That made his ears ring... – The two señores had imbibed sufficient sweet wine to readily share their knowledge with this amicable Irish gentleman. It was not much that the blokes had to tell, but at least Myers knew now that somewhere in the western suburbs there was camp containing Middle African soldiers. What these Middle Africans were actually doing, the señores hadn’t known, one of them had only supplied lumber for constructing a new obstacle course.

Taking his car, Myers drove around in the western suburbs the next day. It took him three hours to find the site. In Venezuela, the Middle Africans didn’t stick out as something special, and the camp was not labelled in any way. There just was a closed steel gate and a wall – and a guy lingering around not easily recognisable as a guard.
Once the place was identified, Myers quickly found out that the compound was quite large and comprised a sizeable training ground, a shooting range and a little lake.

In the evening, Myers went to one of the parrandas he had been invited to. This time, a young and sexy mulatta, manifestly doped and lit – and blatantly out for a carnal adventure – was teasing him after the hot and cold buffet had been cleared away. The chick, flaunting jewellery galore, looked quite dainty – well, if she wanted intercourse, Myers wouldn’t resist...

Later, in his hotel room, he casually inquired after the Middle Africans – and got an unexpected hefty reaction from Carlota.
“Yeah, I kn-know’em!” she slurred groggily. “Gen’ral G’Norebbe an’ hiss b-bloody R-russian ssslut! Darn’em!”
How interesting... – Myers poured some more champagne into her glass.
“Enjoy another sip, sweetie. – You don’t seem to like’em, do you?”
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Old June 25th, 2011, 03:08 PM
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It seem to me that Sam Myers has made a key mistake. The same one often made by gang members, mobsters, police officers and spies. When outside your own neighborhood be aware that you will stick out like a sore thumb to the locals.

In spite of the laid back attitude that the Venezuelans put out it is still a new regime. Which means that they will have rabbit ears up for anything or anyone that could represent a potential threat. An unknown foreigner driving around Caracas would would draw attention, going anywhere near the Middle African compound would raise an alarm.

I might be wrong but I would guess that Myers has already been made and its only a matter of time before he gets grabbed by the Venezuelan police on some pretext. His cover as a Irish traveler wouldn't stand up to too much scrutiny.
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Old June 25th, 2011, 04:10 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised if the Mittelafrikans had a handful of informers in the area around the training compound. To neglect such precautions would be almost criminal.
And Myers seems to be Caucasian in appearance. He should stick out even more. A lot of seemingly innocent questions to people in the vicinity of a military installation should lead to some bells ringing in any case.
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Old June 25th, 2011, 04:16 PM
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sounds to me Carlota was one of the girls chasing G'N, or at least acts like one.

He is not only sticking out as as a sore thumb in the neighborhoods, but he is especially obvious at the parrandas. They don't know him, so if he asks too many questions word will go around rather quickly.
And especially an Irish businessman that isn't drinking too much is something that will draw attention.

Just wondering if Carlota is real, or just an agent of the government or maybe someone working for Olga or another agency friendly to the MA's
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Old June 25th, 2011, 04:34 PM
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And especially an Irish businessman that isn't drinking too much is something that will draw attention.
Damn How could I have missed that one. His behavior is so not typical for an Irishman. No, I'm not kidding. Whenever I met Irish people (both genders) IRL I noticed that drinking seems to be the national sport
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Old June 25th, 2011, 05:31 PM
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Old June 25th, 2011, 05:36 PM
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I am from Ireland and I really would like to say that this image Americans really have and other countries about Irish all being alcoholics is nothing but complete rubbish really we are not that bad really, no worse than most countries and most people no how to drink sensibly and not all the time
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Old June 25th, 2011, 05:44 PM
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Zep, no offense intended. But that really was my impression during my visits to Dublin and Cork (although Cork was around March 17th, so that might not count ) and during the five months I served at KFOR HQ with a lot of FF soldiers around. And they really did seem to be a bit more into drinking alcohol than even us Germans which is really saying something.

But as I said, there was no offense intended, just see it as partially in jest, okay?
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Old June 25th, 2011, 05:48 PM
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I was not meaning all the time, but at a parranda. So when this person is posing as irish, then him not drinking too much at a parranda will get noticed.
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Old June 25th, 2011, 06:02 PM
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Old June 25th, 2011, 08:10 PM
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Flash News

La Stampa, Torino, November 14th, 1932
Spain has voted – Parties of the Right win

Yesterday’s elections for the new Cortes Generales, the Spanish national parliament, have produced a clear-cut victory for the parties of the right.
José Antonio Primo de Rivera’s Falange Española scored 38.6 percent of the popular vote; the Acción Nacional of Ángel Herrera achieved 12.9 percent; and the United Traditionalists got 6.4 percent. It is expected that King Alfonso XIII will task Señor Primo de Rivera with forming the next government based on these three parties.
The parties of the left thus have missed the opportunity to seize political power in Spain after the defeat of the generals’ rebellion. Political observers believe that the discord on the left part, which ensued after the end of the Spanish Civil War, is the main reason for their failure.
The Socialists won 21.8 percent, the Communists 10.5 percent and the Anarchist CNT-FAI 6.7 percent.
As our readers may remember, the preparations for and the conduct of the elections has been supervised by joint Franco-German-Italian committee. Constanzo Ciano, Count of Cortellazzo and Buccari, the leader of this committee, has stated that the elections were held in a “free, fair and regular atmosphere”.
It was the first time in history that the Spanish women were allowed to cast the ballot.

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Old June 25th, 2011, 08:14 PM
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La Stampa, Torino, November 14th, 1932
Spain has voted – Parties of the Right win

Nice. Let's hope that Spain will continue the good course.
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Old June 25th, 2011, 08:17 PM
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Nice. Let's hope that Spain will continue the good course.
Um, hooray for fascism?
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Old June 25th, 2011, 08:25 PM
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Um, hooray for fascism?
Nope.
I'm just happy that Spain will not be a hotbed of communists & anachists.
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Old June 25th, 2011, 09:01 PM
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Nope.
I'm just happy that Spain will not be a hotbed of communists & anachists.
IMO it still may be or is. Just cause the right won doesn't mean the anarchists and commies don't have power, they do.
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Old June 26th, 2011, 01:32 AM
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¡ Hi ! ¡ INTERESTING !.

About Patton, he are beggining to see in a real and a clear form the deep hole who stand the army., in this moment we see that city of México ground troops are alcoholics, or with drugs, or fighting, or with STD, or privates shooting their superiors, or army vs. navy, air force vs. army,etc... and i suspect that is one of the reasons that the guerrilleros don´t attack, because are weaken the determination, desires, will of fight of the soldiers, let their own demons and personal vices burn their spirits. And i suspect that the prostitutes, and all the city of México population it be colaborating, informing, about ALL of the grounds as tanks, number of troops, ubication, morals,etc... to the guerrilla, maybe their want the correct moment and situation for attack. In anyway, if their lose that city i have the strong feeling that this it be a total disaster for McAdoo and Hearts goverment because they sell the idea of "who control the city of México, is a vital step for victory", and more important, if they lose the city of México, how to say, they blame, responsabilty it be only on the heads of the white house´s people, and not in the military,or other group, what i try to say: this disaster maybe it be creating "a perfect storm", you know.
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