Democracy never becomes a big thing in the modern world

[Helltanz98]

I'm thinking point of divergence would be either that Parliament in England never gains power and the English Monarcy remains Absolute, to further carry on this say Washington becomes George the First most populist monarch ever.
So have at you what all changes with out democracy reemerging on the world scene?

[Ofaloaf]

Democracy was already a "big thing" in the Early Modern world by that point. There were plenty of Republics before the American Revolution &c., such as the Dutch Republic, the Venetian Republic and half of Italy, and a fair number of rebel republics that were almost always beaten down by whoever they were revolting against.

[Helltanz98]

Originally Posted by Ofaloaf

Democracy was already a "big thing" in the Early Modern world by that point. There were plenty of Republics before the American Revolution &c., such as the Dutch Republic, the Venetian Republic and half of Italy, and a fair number of rebel republics that were almost always beaten down by whoever they were revolting against.

I was using those as examples I want to know how people think a world with out democracy as a major player would go about things please

[Nicksplace27]

Human rights have to be sidelined as well as popular revolts. Keeping the peasants fat anf occupied constantly by the Aristocratic classes is the best way to do this probably. how though, I'm not sure...

[Wolfhound]

Originally Posted by Helltanz98

I'm thinking point of divergence would be either that Parliament in England never gains power and the English Monarcy remains Absolute, to further carry on this say Washington becomes George the First most populist monarch ever.
So have at you what all changes with out democracy reemerging on the world scene?

The English Monarch has not been powerful since 1688, and technically, they were never absolute.

[Theodoric]

Well, hoe about a democracy only for certain 'classes', ie an oligarchy?
Most previous examples already were more oligarchic than democratic.

[Theravenseldon]

Originally Posted by Theodoric

Well, hoe about a democracy only for certain 'classes', ie an oligarchy?
Most previous examples already were more oligarchic than democratic.

Agreed. A better idea would be what if the theories of democratic rule were never populariazed.

[Prince Charon]

Well, if there were a pro-democratic revolution in one of the Papal States at the right time, you could have one of the Popes declare, pre-Potestant Reformation, that Democracy was a terrible sin. If the later Protestant sects kept that idea, you possibly wouldn't have democracies in Europe, or in European colonies, until religion became less important to most peoples' thinking.

Say a PoD in the 15th-16th centuries, when Machiavelli was still alive (or maybe earlier), and Italy was covered in city-states, some of which were republics. Some Pope who dislikes the situation finds an excuse, such as the aforementioned revolt, and starts a 'Crusade against the Evils of Democracy'.

[Anaxagoras]

Originally Posted by Helltanz98

I'm thinking point of divergence would be either that Parliament in England never gains power and the English Monarcy remains Absolute, to further carry on this say Washington becomes George the First most populist monarch ever.

In such a scenario Washington would never have been born.