Space Shuttle is not built....

The Space shuttle is quite a feat of engineering and technology. It has its 2 tragedies of course...Challenger and Columbia.

It has cost us taxpayers over $100B so far and heavily criticized as a money pit.

What if Nixon decided not to go ahead with the Space Shuttle?
 

Anaxagoras

Banned
The Space shuttle is quite a feat of engineering and technology. It has its 2 tragedies of course...Challenger and Columbia.

It has cost us taxpayers over $100B so far and heavily criticized as a money pit.

What if Nixon decided not to go ahead with the Space Shuttle?

I think the Space Shuttle actually set back the space program by decades. Towards the end of the Apollo project, NASA was drawing up plans to establish a permanent outpost on the Moon and (by 1985!!!) send a mission to Mars. As part of this, it was proposed to build a space station in Earth orbit and develop a reusable shuttle system to service it.

Nixon decided to just do one out of the four, and the Space Shuttle was chosen. This seems, in retrospect, quite stupid, as there was no need for the Shuttle if you were not going to build the space station.

Obviously, going through with the overall plan would have been much more expensive, but at least it would have garnered concrete achievements.
 
Government wasn't going to keep spending that amount of cash on the Space program. The Saturn V production line wasn't renewed well before the end of Apollo.
 

Riain

Banned
I don't think the Shuttle is a failure per se, just that for much of it's life it had no role and was redundant to the existing launchers. This problem could have been solved with a single launch, Skylab B being put into a parking orbit in 1975-6, between ASTP and the conversion of Pad 39 for Shuttle. This would give the Shuttle a mission from the very start that only it could do, and do very well, and so it wouldn't be seen as a failure even with 2 disasters and great costs.
 
The shuttle we have today is not what NASA wanted originally. The shuttle overall size is driven by the size of its cargo bay which was sized for the then generation of recon sats. These where supposed to of been launched from Vandenburg AFB in California. This drives the size of the external tank etc. Also the original SRB design chosen was the worst of the three designs submitted by contractors. It was also the cheapest. And Congress required NASA to go with the low bidder. A fact convienently forgotten in the wake of the Challenger. The shuttle NASA originally wanted was a smaller vehicle that would serve as primarily a taxi to LEO. From what I understand is the shuttle barely survived the Carter administration. If it had been a Mondale/Carter administration it would of been killed in early '77. Mondale hated NASA with a passion that made Proxmire's questions about what the actual operating costs of the STS look like a love affair. IMO the best thing about the shuttle today is it will form the basis of a new heavy lift vehicle provided NASA survives the Obama administration.
 

Archibald

Banned
What if Nixon decided not to go ahead with the Space Shuttle?

I'm working on the subject for six months now!

I won't post the result here (at least, not imediately) because
- it's a huge, 150 pages WORD file :eek:
- I've not finished yet!

But I can give you my POD, build from chapter 8 of this book
(a Shuttle to fit the budget)

http://history.nasa.gov/SP-4221/contents.htm

Shuttle studies really started in july 1969, but for two years NASA obtained NOTHING from Congress nor the White House.
They had no funds to build the shuttle.

My POD is October 1971, four months before the actual shuttle got Nixon approval.
The text below narrate how thinks worked OTL.
It's a summary of chapter 8 mentionned above.

I've tried to explain things clearly, the decision process leading to the Shuttle being a true NIGHTMARE.

I've redacted this summary yesterday, just as you posted this thread. Talk about a coincidence!

THE SPACE SHUTTLE DECISION AUGUST 1971 - JANUARY 1972

In July 1971 situation of the Shuttle program is as follow

- Interim NASA administrator George Low (September 1970 – May 1971) obtained funding for SSME studies. But he did not obtained funds for the fully reusable two-stage shuttle NASA wanted. External tank orbiters are now preferred.

- James C. Fletcher took over Low role in May 1971.

- He asked Mathematica to study economics of the Shuttle. Klauss Heiss and Oskar Morgenstern received a contract running into the year 1971.

- Heiss and its boss studied only two-stage, fully reusable shuttles concepts. These concepts were already obsoletes by mid-71, making their studies unuseful from the beginning. Heiss nevertheless continued analyzing Shuttle concepts he received from contractors (Boeing, Lockheed, Grumman…)


Main protagonists are

- NASA (Mainly Fletcher and Low)
- OMB (Cap Weinberger) Office and Management of Budget.
- Mathematica (Heiss)

A fourth protagonist appears. It’s the Flax Committee. As the OMB, it has to review the Shuttle program for the White House.

BUT the Flax committee is the offspring of the OST, Office of Science and Technology.

In short, Weinberger and its OMB colleagues review the Shuttle program for the White House from the point of view of BUDGET.

While the OST – Flax Committee do the same, from another point of view : SCIENCE.

Now NASA has two White House organizations monitoring its Shuttle program...

To complicate matters furthermore, each protagonist (or so) defends its own “idealized shuttle” concept!

On the White House side, things are clear. Both OMB and Flax Committee wants the less expensive Shuttle possible. So, what’s it ?

It’s a Hermes-like concept. A “glider” ontop of an expendable Titan III booster; a revival of DynaSoar!

The glider had been imagined by Martin Marietta, and catched George Low attention.
Martin Marietta build the Titan III booster, the most dangerous rival to the Shuttle.
Flax and Weinberger philosophy is as follow “This is a form of Shuttle, on top of an already existing booster…”

George Low interest for the “glider” was only superficial. By the way, he’s no longer the boss.

NASA preferred option as August 1971 is an external-tank Shuttle, but similarities with the actual shuttle stop there.
There’s two differencies.
- The booster is a manned, winged Saturn S-IC
- The orbiter SSME light IN FLIGHT, no on the pad as today.

This is call “series burn”. The booster light first, carry the Shuttle and its tank to mach 5, then the shuttle light its SSME and go to orbit. The booster glide back to the Cape.
An alternative is the Big Dumb Booster falling in the sea. The BDB has no turbopumps in its pressure-fed rocket engines. Its structure has to be much more robust and heavier, for lower performances. At least it resist better than a S-IC to saltwater corrosion at sea. That’s why the S-IC option has to flyback to land. F-1 delicates turbompumps would no resist seawater corrosion. The booster has to be reusable, as the orbiter!

The actual Shuttle light its SSME on the pad, and they “burn” along the SRBs. That’s called “parallel burn”.

In August 1971 NASA hate parallel burn and solid rocket boosters. Well, nine months later in March 1972, the space agency adopts the shuttle we know today… with SRBs and parallel burn!
What happened during the crucial period August 1971 – January 1972 ?

Heiss and Mathematica
Parallel burn and SRBs were part of the third protagonist “idealized Shuttle”… Klauss Heiss, at Mathematica.
Heiss found the concept in contractors studies, and called that the TAOS = Thrust Augmented Orbiter Shuttle. Light the SSME on the pad, and you can reduce further the booster size and efficiency… to the point that solids become a viable solution. By the way, you also have to stretch the External Tank, which now has to provide propellants from the pad to orbit!

The current Shuttle is the TAOS : a big Tank, SSME from the pad, and small boosters.


Let’s resume

- OMB / OST = a glider ontop of a Titan III

- NASA = Shuttle / External tank ontop of a winged, manned flyback S-IC; series burn

- Klaus Heiss = TAOS. A bit like NASA favoured concepts, with two drawbacks
o Parallel burn
o Less efficient, unwinged, solid boosters

From September 1971 each of the three concepts fight the others.

Heiss did not won the battle of TAOS before late December 1971.

He was frantically promoting the TAOS to NASA as the solution to its Shuttle-funding problems…since at least August 1971! An important thing to notice is that NASA officials disliked very much the TAOS at the time.
They reluctantly endorsed it… much later.

A fourth protagonist waited in the dark, ready to fill the gap if the Shuttle was cancelled. It was Big Gemini.

Had the Shuttle been cancelled, the obvious question is : will a capsule replace it, or will manned spaceflight stop after ASTP and the last Apollo CSM ?

The second option was seriously considered from April 1970 to August 1971, before Cap Weinberger pledged the cause of manned spaceflight to Nixon in a famous memo. Nixon answered “I agree with Cap” on August 15 1971, meaning that he would not stop manned spaceflight even if the Shuttle was cancelled.

So had the Shuttle failed, NASA would have ended with a capsule.

Paradoxically, it would not be Apollo, because North American had tailored its spacecraft for 10-days lunar missions, not 90-day to Skylab (yes, enough problems developed with the CSM that NASA modified a Saturn IB and CSM-119 to a rescue mission).

Gemini would have been a better basis… with a large extension, the basic ship being quite cramped. Douglas had such ship ready since 1967, called “Big Gemini”. The bigger variant launched by a Saturn INT-20 really had Shuttle performances : up to 12 astronauts and 27000 kg of cargo to LEO! Most importantly, a smaller variant existed, ontop of a Titan III…

Big Gemini was clearly NASA preferred option if no Shuttle could be procured. It was not to be because of Heiss TAOS.

The closest Big Gemini ever went to become NASA next manned spacecraft was October 1971.
(that's my POD!)

From August to late October (the 28) Heiss and the TAOS are out of the fight.

OMB and NASA battle alone. As noted above, October 1971 is crucial. It was the closest the Shuttle ever was from cancellation.

Here's a detailed timeline of this period

On September 30th 1971, Fletcher send its budget request for FY73, asking budget to develop the Shuttle. Guess why concept he asks for ? the flyback S-IC thing.

Not a very good idea.

The OMB and Flax committee, both working for the White House, had agreed on their preferred Shuttle. It’s the glider ontop of the Titan III… the less expensive of all Shuttles. They even mentioned Big Gemini as less expensive!
Date of the paper : October 4, 1971.

On Heiss side, in its own words

“by the end of the month (read September) we thought that the program (read the shuttle) was on catastrophic course”.

Heiss said that in desesperation.

Indeed, NASA officials, when presenting their shuttle concepts to the white house officials (Flax and Weinberger) deliberately OMMITTED (!) the TAOS concept. They did so as far as October 15!
They mostly talked about their prefered option, the flyback booster. They disliked the TAOS.

In desperation, Heiss pledged the TAOS cause to Fletcher himself… but that did not happened before October 28 1971, and we saw earlier that Fletcher itself defended the flyback option.


From this point, we can see that the period from October 4 to October 28 was crucial in the Shuttle program.

Early October, NASA preferred flyback S-IC was rejected by both the Flax committee and Weinberger OMB, in favour of

- Big Gemini (no Shuttle at all!)

- The glider. Only a bit of Shuttle.

Both launched by a Titan III of course.

On October 22, 1971, a large chunk of OMB staff simply proposed the unthinkable “cancel the shuttle program”.

But Weinberger was the boss. He had to chose between Big Gemini and the glider, both launched by the expendable Titan III… and, the Glider being, after all, a mini-shuttle, he decided to go this way.
“Some form of Shuttle would be built : NASA would not have to rely on Big Gemini”
(the Space Shuttle decision, chapter 8, “A Shuttle to fit the budget”)

Big Gemini was dead. NASA would have a pre-Hermes, post-DynaSoar Shuttle.

But this was not to be.

As mentioned above, a week later Heiss finally addressed Fletcher directly,pushing the TAOS concept. Now that the flyback S-IC shuttle was dead and the glider the most likely option… the TAOS suddenly sounded much more interesting to NASA!

Now Heiss and Fletcher had found an agreement : the TAOS was the way to go… sadly, the OMB and Flax committee were now fixed on their glider!

NASA had to convince White House officials that they wanted the TAOS, not a stupid glider on top of a Titan III.

Two bizarre months followed, NASA battling again with the OMB, to the point that late December, in G. Low words
“Fletcher nearly tell Weinberger to go to hell, but restrained much better than I would have”

The OMB only discussed the side of the Glider bay, not the Glider Vs TAOS argument. The conflict was only solved in the last week of December. NASA literally received the TAOS as Chritmas gift!

In conclusion, Shuttle destiny really hanged to two events

- Weinberger decision of October 22 to go for the Glider instead of Big Gemini, saving at least the spaceplane. From the spaceplane, NASA rebounded to the TAOS two months later.

- Heiss obstination against NASA’s N.I.H syndrome
(N.I.H = Not Invented Here. The TAOS had been invented by contractors and promoted by Heiss, both exterior to NASA. Heiss was very lucky to triumph from the N.I.H syndrome!!!).

The rest is history. Nixon publicly endorsed the Shuttle on January 5 1972. In march, NASA definitively decided to go with SRBs, the contract going to Thiockol soon thereafter (hmmmm…). North American Rockwell received a $3billion contract for the orbiter on July 26 1972.

That's OTL.

In my ATL, NASA will end with Big Gemini thanks to a slight disturbance of fate in October.

Excellent work on Big Gemini can be find here
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=4229.0

Scroll down, and enjoy Archippepe work... :)
 
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Archibald

Banned
The shuttle we have today is not what NASA wanted originally. The shuttle overall size is driven by the size of its cargo bay which was sized for the then generation of recon sats. These where supposed to of been launched from Vandenburg AFB in California. This drives the size of the external tank etc. Also the original SRB design chosen was the worst of the three designs submitted by contractors. It was also the cheapest. And Congress required NASA to go with the low bidder. A fact convienently forgotten in the wake of the Challenger. The shuttle NASA originally wanted was a smaller vehicle that would serve as primarily a taxi to LEO. From what I understand is the shuttle barely survived the Carter administration. If it had been a Mondale/Carter administration it would of been killed in early '77. Mondale hated NASA with a passion that made Proxmire's questions about what the actual operating costs of the STS look like a love affair. IMO the best thing about the shuttle today is it will form the basis of a new heavy lift vehicle provided NASA survives the Obama administration.

I think the Space Shuttle actually set back the space program by decades. Towards the end of the Apollo project, NASA was drawing up plans to establish a permanent outpost on the Moon and (by 1985!!!) send a mission to Mars. As part of this, it was proposed to build a space station in Earth orbit and develop a reusable shuttle system to service it.

Nixon decided to just do one out of the four, and the Space Shuttle was chosen. This seems, in retrospect, quite stupid, as there was no need for the Shuttle if you were not going to build the space station.

Obviously, going through with the overall plan would have been much more expensive, but at least it would have garnered concrete achievements.

Good points you have both. That's two points I've seriously considered in my ATL.

It seems Thiokol bid for the SRBs was very controversial.
Fletcher was aparently a Mormon (thus from Utah, as Thiockol?) a senator from Utah was also part of the decision process (not sure of that)...
 
My understanding is that NASA really wanted to keep building Saturns AND build a Shuttle (as well as build a space station, tugs, etc.)

This seems to match what is said here:
http://www.astronautix.com/lvs/shuttle.htm

"By mid-1969, the ambitious new NASA Administrator, Tom Paine, had proposed an extensive manned space exploration program as the logical follow-on to Apollo."

The idea at least at some stage was to mate Saturn with Shuttle, e.g.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn-Shuttle

Of course Nixon was offered 3 alternatives - Mars, Scaled back manned space exploration, or nothing.... he chose the 3rd option.

That left NASA fighting to keep manned space exploration going, and perhaps this wasn't intended, but the way it was achieved was by the shuttle program, which IMHO

(a) Was based on over-optimistic cost assumptions

and
(b) A sub-optimal design (to cut back on development costs)

and
(c) Assumed all satellites, etc., would be launched on the shuttle (which of course is dumb) -- no doubt this is not unrelated to the fact that a higher flight rate, lowers the cost per launch, and makes the program look more attractive.


In retrospect aside from these issues, a shuttle without a Saturn V (for launching big chunks of space station in one chunk) doesn't make much sense on its own... but it did allow NASA to keep flying manned missions
 

Archibald

Banned
In my ATL, Klauss Heiss lose the TAOS battle.
NASA doesn't endorse Heiss concept. The Shuttle we known today get lost among layers of bureacracy and never reach James Fletcher desk.

NASA insist too long of its flyback booster / series burn Shuttle, which had no chance against the OMB.

Most importantly, on October 22 1971 Weinberger chose Big Gemini, not the glider. why ?
Because NASA formerly rejected the glider in september.

As ESA learned with Hermes, a glider on top of rocket is not a very good concept.
It is heavy, payload is bad, abort modes are bad, and the glider wings cause massive control problems to the rocket (Titan III and Ariane V are quite similar in shape).

Thus NASA kill the glider in september, and neglect Heiss TAOS.

In october Weinberger strongly reject the flyback booster / series burn shuttle, leaving only... Big Gemini!

Big Gemini win hands down on October 24 1971. The space Shuttle is dead!

Klauss Heiss pledge the cause of TAOS to Fletcher four days later (!) but it's too late.
Weinberger has decided there would be NO shuttle at all.

Et voila!

So what happen after ?

- No Hermes, no Buran. In 1976 the Soviets and the CNES can't clone a Shuttle which never existed!

- a better space policy thanks to a new space steering committee
(it will shut Mondale mouth in 1977 and maintain a balanced space program)

- a space station called Liberty :)

It is build using a bunch of Saturn IB and Saturn V left by Apollo.

Thanks to Saturn IBs, Liberty modules are 6.60m wide, much larger than Mir or ISS 4-meters-wide tin cans.

Here's the station as of 1981.
SpaceStationLiberty10.jpg


You can see the base block - a big module carried by a Saturn V - and a smaller module carried by a Saturn IB

There's also Big Gemini, and the Agena Service Module

What's that ? The tug which carry every module from Saturn IB to space station Liberty base block.
It's the US counterpart to Mir's FGB.
The Agena Service Module has guidance, propulsion, and docking systems.
Guided from the ground it dock modules to Liberty.
Then it detach and burn in the atmosphere.

Mind you, the ISS could have been build without the shuttle, this way
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=11968.0

Liberty is a cross between four "real" space stations

- MORL, 1965. A 20tons station launched by a Saturn IB or the US Salyut!
Liberty's modules are similar to MORL.

- Skylab or NASA 1969 station, both launched by a Saturn V.
That's my base block

- Mir, because it is a modular space station built without a Shuttle

- the ISS, because it is the dreamed US space station.

Liberty consists of a large base block with a node, four large modules completing the station.

Each of the "small" module has an internal volume similar to Skylab... 250 cubic meters!
The bigger base block offers... 1000 cubic meters.
Result is a station much, much roomier than the ISS
 
Imo, Nasa was bound to make things far too complicated either way.

Additionally, there's the problem that if things get "boring", funding dries out, as Nasa was very much about propaganda.

The "Big Gemini" system would therefore probably not attract too much money - good for the economy, bad for any advanced missions like Moon stations or Mars flights.

If I had something to say at the time, I'd make Nasa a small administration which checks private submissions for feasibility, which checks that quality standards are met by contractors, and so on. Private companies would run production sites, launching sites, and so on. Any later museums would be run by the states.

I'd also concentrate efforts much more - the US seems to have an illness of doing research in all directions, but never doing something on a scale which actually allows lowering costs through numbers.

My Nasa would only slowly built larger rockets, instead trying to use standard rockets for military, science, commercial, and propaganda purposes (like the moon landing). If smaller rockets are used, the different modules have to be assembled in space instead of being lifted up by one giant rocket - not a real problem, as they reconfigured in space anyways.

All that would make the space program much cheaper, much more reliable, and much more useful for commercial activity.

The moon program would happen as IOTL, but at half the cost. Being so cheap, there would be more money first for more useful space activities like commercial, navigation, science, and spy satellites, later for things like small manned space stations evolving into observatories and other kinds of outposts. The moon program would also not be stopped, as it would now be seen as a much more cost effective way to get technological advance and to draw scientific talent from all over the world.

Another thing I'd do is, I'd stretch moon activities more and make them more useful. Scientists would start landing on the moon from the second or third mission and do much more research. The longer time between moon landings means, there is more technological progress inbetween - some capsules and other parts can be reused 2 or 3 times by leaving them in useful orbits in space, reducing the cost for landings even more. Missions would take longer and longer, until they start overlapping. At that point, a permanent moon station would become feasible, by just landing a few times in a row at the same place and leaving more stuff each time. That would probably happen at about 1980. With a moon station come observatories especially for radio astronomy, probably using the profiles of existing craters and suitable hills as dishes. Centrifuges will be installed to keep long term moon dwellers able to return to earth. Solar ovens can turn rock into cement and ores into metals, at the same time producing oxygen. If not enough hydrogen/water is found, it will be brought from earth.

In the 1990s, due to comparably cheap space travel, the moon colony grows to dozens of mainly scientists, and several outposts, to allow science at the north and south pole, the near and far side, and the advancing and retreating side. It produces most of what it needs right there, and aditionally some of the parts for expansion. Most of the living quarters are in caves deep underground, to avoid radiation and small impacts. Nuclear batteries and reversable endothermic chemical reactions provide power in the long nights. Large green houses produce food and some other ressources day and night.

By now, the moon station slowly expands into a center for producing more heavy space parts and fuels to lift them into orbit. Due to the lower gravity of the moon, that is much more economic.
 
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