WI: No 2001 Planet of the Apes

[Snake Featherston]

Originally Posted by Tocomocho

Yes. That was the project that preceded the one unclepatrick mentioned, and came very close to film in 1995. It was shot down in the last minute because, as Emperor Norton said, an idiot at FOX wanted to see apes playing baseball and the writer kept refusing to write that scene in. The script was already weird as shit, so fans of the 1968 film would probably not have liked it anyway:

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=386255

The really sad thing is if that movie had been made it would have probably been in the So Bad It's Good variety. Stan Winston special effects, Aragorn, Nazgul, and even the quote about "he kills his brother for lust, or sport, or greed?". OTL has much worse movies than this and much more incomprehensible (see The Fifth Element).

[MattII]

Originally Posted by Emperor Norton I

What? New York totally got hit. That's why the Ape City isn't in skyscraper
ruins, even though its right where New York City was eons ago; the city was nuked, as were all cities, and the ruins got buried underground by the elements millenia ago. That's why there's the Forbidden Zone, which is the wasteland.

Which fails to explain how the Statue of Liberty survived, despite being both a very likely target (it's almost certainly going to pick up a load of collateral damage, even if it's not hit directly), and having virtually no likelihood of structural longevity (steel corrodes in sea-air even quicker than normal air).

Originally Posted by Snake Featherston

You expect realism in a series about talking apes replacing human civilization?

The mere 2 millenium gap did shake my suspension of disbelief.

[Cook]

Does anyone else think they could have saved a fortune in makeup if instead of casting Helena Cater as the female Chimp, they’d hired Michael Jackson instead?

[Emperor Norton I]

Originally Posted by MattII

Which fails to explain how the Statue of Liberty survived, despite being both a very likely target (it's almost certainly going to pick up a load of collateral damage, even if it's not hit directly), and having virtually no likelihood of structural longevity (steel corrodes in sea-air even quicker than normal air).

Structural longevity, maybe. But it only half survived, the other half being the atomic scorched remains.

[MattII]

Originally Posted by Emperor Norton I

Structural longevity, maybe. But it only half survived, the other half being the atomic scorched remains.

It was buried up to its chest, except that that would be impossible, because the weight of the sand and water would have collapsed it in no time flat (there's little strength in copper), and if it hadn't the salinity of the sea-air would have degraded the steel frame to nothing inside of a century.

Please don't try validating an argument that can't possibly survive in anything other than pure fantasy.

[Snake Featherston]

Originally Posted by MattII

The mere 2 millenium gap did shake my suspension of disbelief.

That shook your suspension of disbelief, not that apes were speaking 20th Century American English and Charleton Heston didn't seem to realize that "Hey, wait a minute, how can I understand these people" or the whole "Wait, why do the apes look like men in costumes?

[The Kiat]

Originally Posted by MattII

It was buried up to its chest, except that that would be impossible, because the weight of the sand and water would have collapsed it in no time flat (there's little strength in copper), and if it hadn't the salinity of the sea-air would have degraded the steel frame to nothing inside of a century.

Please don't try validating an argument that can't possibly survive in anything other than pure fantasy.

The ending was for the sake of a trip/twist (it was Earth all along!) more than anything else.

[MattII]

Originally Posted by Snake Featherston

That shook your suspension of disbelief, not that apes were speaking 20th Century American English and Charleton Heston didn't seem to realize that "Hey, wait a minute, how can I understand these people" or the whole "Wait, why do the apes look like men in costumes?

A) I was 13 at the time.
B) Sometimes you have to accept the really big lies for the movie to make any sort of sense.

Originally Posted by The Kiat

The ending was for the sake of a trip/twist (it was Earth all along!) more than anything else.

They could perhaps have set it inland and made the reveal Mount Rushmore?