More influential impact in history: Julius Caesar or Oliver Cromwell?

Bigger historical figure?

  • Caesar

    Votes: 119 95.2%

  • Cromwell

    Votes: 6 4.8%
  • Total voters
    125

Hongfan91

Who was more influential in history: Julius Caesar or Oliver Cromwell?
Caesar: Conquered Gaul for Rome, struck up an alliance with Egypt, consolidated power after the defeat of Pompey which ultimately ensued the formation of the Roman Empire.

Cromwell: Defeated Charles I, the absolute monarch. Ruled Britain for 5 years as a Puritan before dying and having an inept son take over which led to the restoration of the monarchy. Paved the way for the loss of absolute monarchy in the UK.
 

scholar

Banned
Caesar.

Absolute Monarchy was dead in Great Britain for a long time before Cromwell, and his role in history apart from some vague notion of precedent setting appeared to have a limited role in English politics other than "never wanting to repeat" the same mistakes.
 
Major Crimson

Major Crimson

You can probably pin the Roman Empire on Caesar and that means he's also responsible for the Byzantine and Holy Roman Empires, as well as the dominance of the Romance languages, thats 90% of history he influenced.
 

Imladrik

Without Caesar, no Cromwell. Without Cromwell, well, Caesar is still there. So I think Caesar is more influential, even if it is only due to the fact that he lived farther back in time.
 

Lalli

Caesar, of course. If Caesar never born, dies earlier, different career or not assassinate, world would be very different so there wouldn't be Cromwell too. Hardly even that England what we know.
 

Gurroruo

Angry Celt said:
You can probably pin the Roman Empire on Caesar and that means he's also responsible for the Byzantine and Holy Roman Empires, as well as the dominance of the Romance languages, thats 90% of history he influenced.
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More like 70% you got the Asians causing a ruckus to the easT
 

jkarr

Caesar
There's a reason why the Roman Empire, The Eastern Roman Empire/Byzantines, The Holy Roman Empire/German Confederation/Austrian/German Empires, The Tsardom/Empire of All Russias and so on has a variation of his name for their Rulers
 

Janprimus

Both are western centric, still Julius Caesar wins hands down. He ultimately impacted way more peoples and lands than Cromwell (including the areas later impacted by Cromwell).

Sure Cromwell was very important in the British Isles and by extension the Anglosphere, but outside those regions?
 

Undeadmuffin

Caesar, the guy basically turn a Italian powerhouse into a massive empire that dominate Europe for century. The other guy... you just learn me its existence.
 

Trotsky

Why is this a question?

I mean, you might as well be asking whether Abraham Lincoln or Sir Digby Chicken Caesar had more influence on history. Two completely different persons and vastly different eras.
 

Don Draper

slydessertfox said:
The English Civil War didn't need Cromwell to happen. The Roman empire as it existed in its OTL form needed Caesar.
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Eh, I think that the way that the Republic was going someone was going to successfully establish a permanent dictatorship one way or another, but the form it would have taken would have been very different under someone other than Caesar.
 

Falecius

Ceasar plugged Northern-Central Europe into the Mediterranean (at that point, essentially Roman) sphere of civilization almost single-handedly (well, with his army).
It could be argued that in doing so, he basically created the potentiality for Europe to be a cultural entity. This alone, nevermind setting the stage for that irrelevant historical footnote known as "Roman Empire", puts him very high in the ranks of historically highly influential individuals who left a large mark and an imposing lasting legacy.
Cromwell was important, but not even close to the same league.
 

Anaxagoras

Banned
Caesar, for sure. We don't have a month named after Cromwell, using a calendar that he himself brought into being, do we?
 

Seleucus

From a historical impact perspective, one's historical impact increases exponentially as one goes further and further back in time. If you go back to 50,000 BC, Random Caveman had a much larger impact on history - through butterflies - than Julius Caesar did.
 
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