What's your opinion of Douglas MacArthur and why ?
1 - Agree probably
2 - I don't think there is anything unfortunate the lose of the PI was planned and accepted years in advance by everybody in the US high command apart from him changing his mind at a late stage.
3 - But he was never going to get the materials and should have known that as the navy had agreed it could not rescue the PI in time ? Does this not show serious problems in choosing a war plan for the PI that was never going to get the support it needed to work and then blaming others who had made the position clear well beforehand ?
4 - Would he really have survived joint command with the British ? (who early on would dominate any planning and action)
5 - Unlikely IMO that he can survive GB and then US politics.
6 - Isn't that a case for all senior generals especially in democracies, does this not just show his unsuitability for supreme command ?
7 - With hindsight does anything but starving the home islands with subs and then attacks with B29 really contribute much to wining the pacific war? The US never defeated the large IJA in china or DEI but still nobody questions that The US won the war, why play to the Japanese strengths rather than weaknesses ?
8 - Did they even exist 6 months earlier (and the ships to transport them ?) not to mention who do you cut the supplies to in terms of LL ?
As you can tell I'm not sure I would count as a fan but would like to hear any reasons why I should be ?
Yeah and let's keep it on another thread because I don't want to turn this into an anti-MacArthur debate. ...
I can feel the torches and pitchforks coming.
Douglas MacArthur is probably one of the most misunderstood generals of the 20th Century . He was a genuine Hero in more then one war (1) and unfortunately the loss of the Philippines (2) (in my opinion due to him not getting the materials he asked for as much as anything else .(3)) and his retreat to Australia (one he was ordered to go on) has coloured people's opinions of him . I am an Australian and in my country he is reviled mainly for his attitude to us . We seem to have been resented and used as a stepping stone only not as an ally . If he had been in the European theatre (4) he would likely have been made president after the war instead of Ike (5) but again that's only my opinion . You also have to remember he was a victim of politics as much as anything else (6). He wanted to invade the Philippine's first , the Navy said no and the navy got what it wanted . (7)
An interesting POD that could be written would be the delivery of the 1.1 million tons of stores awaiting delivery to the Philippine's . That and have them delivered 6 months earlier lols. (8)
1 - Agree probably
2 - I don't think there is anything unfortunate the lose of the PI was planned and accepted years in advance by everybody in the US high command apart from him changing his mind at a late stage.
3 - But he was never going to get the materials and should have known that as the navy had agreed it could not rescue the PI in time ? Does this not show serious problems in choosing a war plan for the PI that was never going to get the support it needed to work and then blaming others who had made the position clear well beforehand ?
4 - Would he really have survived joint command with the British ? (who early on would dominate any planning and action)
5 - Unlikely IMO that he can survive GB and then US politics.
6 - Isn't that a case for all senior generals especially in democracies, does this not just show his unsuitability for supreme command ?
7 - With hindsight does anything but starving the home islands with subs and then attacks with B29 really contribute much to wining the pacific war? The US never defeated the large IJA in china or DEI but still nobody questions that The US won the war, why play to the Japanese strengths rather than weaknesses ?
8 - Did they even exist 6 months earlier (and the ships to transport them ?) not to mention who do you cut the supplies to in terms of LL ?
As you can tell I'm not sure I would count as a fan but would like to hear any reasons why I should be ?