They were a prominent short-term minority formed from a silk road community that attained some level of acceptance in the Tang Dynasty, but they were wiped out after An Lushan through a combination of both the immense upheaval that spread throughout northern and northwestern China (which was their home) and the later immense crackdown and persecution of all things "non-Chinese" by the reformed Tang. The Nestorians remained somewhat prominent as a minority group in the Uighur lands, and also benefited from some initial patronage by the Mongols. Nestorianism may have achieved a major revival, but they ultimately fell out of favor with a reposition among the Mongols to Islam in the West and Buddhism in the East, as a result Nestorianism fell out of favor and seemed to disappear completely when the Ming rose to power and began another anti-foreign culture wave. The last group may have faded out of existence in China just about the same time Catholic Jesuit Missionaries were starting to influence the Ming Dynasty.Depends on how they spread. Weren't their extent west of India OTL?
Your best chance is for the Mongols embracing it. And even that is a tall order.
I would say a lot of it depends on how and why Korea and Japan convert. I could forsee a timeline where a Chinese emperor converts, in essentially a Nestorian-wank. China eventually begins invading their heathen neighbors, which causes the Japanese to convert after the Koreans are fored to. To the emperor, justification may be similar to why Indonesia became muslim after trading for so long with muslim arab merchants. However Japan's christianity could develop into something distinctly Japanese. I could see Japan and China both being much more active with exploration and colonization if their emperors adopt Christianity as the new Mandate of Heaven, giving proselytation as a reason to seek out other peoples and lands.
I imagine an emperor of either country remarking to how far the word of Christ had to travel to save the souls of the middle kingdom, and that as the center of the universe it was now their duty to spread it to everything under the sun!
This would make for a fascinating timeline, no matter how unlikely or unrealistic; Chinese and Japanese christian sailed fleets interacting with Arabs and Hindus in Indonesia, and a complete change in dynamics when say the cossacks reach Manchuria, or when the Europeans start exploring the Pacific to find many of its islands and people's already Christian, though in theogical disagreement.
Anyone find this idea to be anything but asb? I mean unlikely sure, but the pod seems simple enough; just like Constantine, an emperor comes to like this new foreign religion and adopts it, saying that there is no difference between God's will and the mandate of heaven that gives emperors the right to rule for thousands of years.
I would say a lot of it depends on how and why Korea and Japan convert. I could forsee a timeline where a Chinese emperor converts, in essentially a Nestorian-wank. China eventually begins invading their heathen neighbors, which causes the Japanese to convert after the Koreans are fored to. To the emperor, justification may be similar to why Indonesia became muslim after trading for so long with muslim arab merchants. However Japan's christianity could develop into something distinctly Japanese. I could see Japan and China both being much more active with exploration and colonization if their emperors adopt Christianity as the new Mandate of Heaven, giving proselytation as a reason to seek out other peoples and lands.
I imagine an emperor of either country remarking to how far the word of Christ had to travel to save the souls of the middle kingdom, and that as the center of the universe it was now their duty to spread it to everything under the sun!
This would make for a fascinating timeline, no matter how unlikely or unrealistic; Chinese and Japanese christian sailed fleets interacting with Arabs and Hindus in Indonesia, and a complete change in dynamics when say the cossacks reach Manchuria, or when the Europeans start exploring the Pacific to find many of its islands and people's already Christian, though in theogical disagreement.
Anyone find this idea to be anything but asb? I mean unlikely sure, but the pod seems simple enough; just like Constantine, an emperor comes to like this new foreign religion and adopts it, saying that there is no difference between God's will and the mandate of heaven that gives emperors the right to rule for thousands of years.
What if the Mongols didn't conquer anybody (other than the Jin and Central Asia, perhaps)? Wouldn't they continue to be the intermediaries between China and a large portion of the world through the Silk Road? (There are other routes, granted, but whatever)
If we get northern China and especially the Song emperor to convert, I'm certain we can arrange things well enough to have a Nestorian China by 1400-1500 (the POD would be in like 1200).
How do you prevent the Mongols from ever thinking about military conquests? This might need a stronger Chinese dynasty.
The institution's still pretty young at this stage.The Nestorians can deal with the Mikado the same way the other Christian groups dealt with the Germanic Pagans,who also believed that their kings were descended from gods.The issue is that to do all of that,they need a much stronger base in China,with the emperor adopting the religion. Now,how do you convince the emperor to adopt the religion?To reinforce his position as being endorsed by the Christian God permanently as opposed to there being a mandate of Heaven that could be rescinded?Japan is gonna be a hard. How would you deal with their belief that the Mikado is a god already?
Japan is gonna be a hard. How would you deal with their belief that the Mikado is a god already?