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Old October 13th, 2012, 11:44 AM
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This map is based on the AH.com poll votes, not the the actual TL-191. As for Debs, I recall Turtledove giving Debs his home state and Dakota, and Wisconsin was the beating heart of American Socialism at the time, so I'm not sure why the Debs states are "strange".
While TL-191 might be different because of the Republican competition in the Plains, there were far more Socialist states than Wisconsin (or Indiana, or Ohio, etc) at the time. Let's look at the OTL 1912 election, where Eugene Debs' Socialist campaign did unusually well. Here are a couple of electoral maps I made for another thread, with Debs in yellow. In the first map Debs wins all the states he got at least 10% in OTL; in the second one he wins all the states he got at least 5% in OTL.

I always find it interesting that New York is not on either list.
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Old October 13th, 2012, 11:46 AM
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And here is a map of Socialist voting strength by state in 1912 from Dave Leip's US Election Atlas:
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Old November 17th, 2012, 10:22 PM
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1920 US Presidential Election

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1996 US Presidential Election

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Old November 17th, 2012, 10:23 PM
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Apologies for the lateness in getting the Wikiboxes out. Real life has been consuming much of my free time lately. Also, I had no internet for 2 weeks due to Sandy and so couldn't see the results of the 1920 and 1996 elections or use Wikipedia to edit the articles.
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Old November 17th, 2012, 10:26 PM
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Understood. I have finally done it. I have expunged the Socialists from Mainland America! Long live the New Democratic/Republican duopoly!
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Old November 17th, 2012, 10:27 PM
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Understood. I have finally done it. I have expunged the Socialists from Mainland America! Long live the New Democratic/Republican duopoly!
Not quite. The Reds kept DC.
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Old November 17th, 2012, 10:29 PM
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Not quite. The Reds kept DC.
Meh, they'll lose it next election.
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Old November 17th, 2012, 10:33 PM
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BTW, you forgot to change Upton Sinclair's photo. Here...
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Old November 17th, 2012, 11:10 PM
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BTW, you forgot to change Upton Sinclair's photo. Here...
OK. For some reason I thought the one I used was the one we had decided on, but he is too old in the photo I used.

EDIT: Has been fixed.
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