Retrospective US Presidential Election Results Thread

[metastasis_d]

Originally Posted by Nerdlinger

How sad.

Incidentally, that's blasphemy, so according to your rules, I think you're going to hell.

I think according to his rules, Jesus died for his sins.

[Nerdlinger]

Originally Posted by metastasis_d

I think according to his rules, Jesus died for his sins.

But wouldn't that only have saved people who sinned before Jesus died?

[metastasis_d]

Originally Posted by Nerdlinger

But wouldn't that only have saved people who sinned before Jesus died?

That isn't how I understand Christianity to work. Then again, I don't subscribe to it.

[Nerdlinger]

Originally Posted by metastasis_d

That isn't how I understand Christianity to work. Then again, I don't subscribe to it.

Well, I guess if anyone can violate causality, it's Jesus. He died preemptively for our sins.

[metastasis_d]

Originally Posted by Nerdlinger

Well, I guess if anyone can violate causality, it's Jesus. He died preemptively for our sins.

I think that was the point.

[Nerdlinger]

Originally Posted by metastasis_d

I think that was the point.

"You have the sight now, Jesus. You are looking at the world without time."

[metastasis_d]

Originally Posted by Nerdlinger

"You have the sight now, Jesus. You are looking at the world without time."

The Matrix? Well, I have heard it was supposed to be a Christian analogue...

[Abhakhazia]

Originally Posted by Nerdlinger

How sad.

Incidentally, that's blasphemy, so according to your rules, I think you're going to hell.

I can ask for forgiveness. That's way it works.

[Nerdlinger]

Originally Posted by Abhakhazia

I can ask for forgiveness. That's way it works.

I see. Say a few Hail Marys, pay the church a tithe, and you're back in God's good graces, right? Quite a system they've got going.

[metastasis_d]

Originally Posted by Nerdlinger

I see. Say a few Hail Marys, pay the church a tithe, and you're back in God's good graces, right? Quite a system they've got going.

Or, you know, simply accept Jesus as your lord and savior and then you are covered for literally every sin.

I would do it just to be covered in case my agnosticism/atheism turns out to be wrong, but apparently faking it doesn't count. I think they probably test you or something before you get in. Some kind of shibboleth.

[Nerdlinger]

Originally Posted by metastasis_d

Or, you know, simply accept Jesus as your lord and savior and then you are covered for literally every sin.

I would do it just to be covered in case my agnosticism/atheism turns out to be wrong, but apparently faking it doesn't count. I think they probably test you or something before you get in. Some kind of shibboleth.

I think all you need to do is recant on your deathbed. Then it's straight to heaven for you.

[metastasis_d]

Originally Posted by Nerdlinger

I think all you need to do is recant on your deathbed. Then it's straight to heaven for you.

That doesn't work if you don't make it to your deathbed, and even if I do, I probably have to mean it/believe it. I don't know if I can be convincing enough for god.

[Abhakhazia]

Originally Posted by Nerdlinger

I see. Say a few Hail Marys, pay the church a tithe, and you're back in God's good graces, right? Quite a system they've got going.

Not I just say "God I blasphemed. Please forgive me."

Originally Posted by Nerdlinger

I think all you need to do is recant on your deathbed. Then it's straight to heaven for you.

Sorry, you need to live it, not just die it.

[Turquoise Blue]

4. Four elections where the winner lost their home state.

Compare to OTL, in which we had just 3. Interesting fact...

[metastasis_d]

Originally Posted by Turquoise Blue

4. Four elections where the winner lost their home state.

Compare to OTL, in which we had just 3. Interesting fact...

I'm sure they've been mentioned, but can you spell 'em out for those of us who have brain damage/memory issues?

[Turquoise Blue]

Originally Posted by metastasis_d

I'm sure they've been mentioned, but can you spell 'em out for those of us who have brain damage related memory issues.

In OTL
1844: James K. Polk (Democratic) won, but Henry Clay (Whig) took Tennessee.
1916: Woodrow Wilson (Democratic) won, but Charles Evans Hughes (Republican) took New Jersey.
1968: Richard Nixon (Republican) won, but Hubert Humphrey (Democratic) took New York.


In ATL
1808: Charles C. Pinckney (Federalist) won, but James Madison (Democratic-Republican) took South Carolina.
1892: James B. Weaver (Populist) won, but Benjamin Harrison (Republican) took Iowa.
1920: Eugene V. Debs (Socialist) won, but Warren G. Harding (Republican) took Indiana.
2004: John Kerry (Democratic) won, but David Cobb (Green) took Massachusetts.

[Komodo20]

Originally Posted by Plumber

Both of them do so only because they think that Buchanan's Coolidge-style "Do Nothing" pro-states' rights approach is a good thing. It isn't.

With all due respect, I only voted for Buchanan because 1) I found Fremont to be both incompetent and radical and 2) I felt that it would be better if the Civil War started in '61 under Lincoln than in '57 or '58 under Fremont.