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Just one thing: the names Brazil comes from brazil-wood, which populated much of the Brazilian coast when the Portuguese landed. There's no reason for Grand Banks to be called Brasil ITTL.
And brazil wood is named after the red color of the wood which is why the OP said that the red woods gave the area its name
Actually there was a designation to an island west of Ireland named "Ilha Brasil" long before 1500. Because of this, a mountain on the island of Angra do Heroismo is named Monte Brasil, and this pre-dates 1500. The island appears on 14th and 15th century maps.
Brazil itself was named Ilha (Terra) da Vera Cruz in 1500, Terra da Santa Cruz 1501.
Below is a Catalan map from 1375 showing the island of Brasil
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_C2vvRlOtkLc/S9Xqiaf5KKI/AAAAAAAAEJ4/XxXuiCyhQzg/s1600/catalan.jpg
The map below from 1588 shows the island of Brasil
http://livinlavidarick.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/14-hybrasilmunstercol-1588-fb.jpg
From Wikipedia:
From the author:
So my guess is that the use of the name "Brasil" isn't incorrect. The land was named after the red resin which looked like a brasa, not the South American pau-brasil which wasn't discovered yet.
From the author:
So my guess is that the use of the name "Brasil" isn't incorrect. The land was named after the red resin which looked like a brasa, not the South American pau-brasil which wasn't discovered yet.
While true, if a mythical island called "Brazil" or Brasil was supposed to exist west of Ireland, and several maps of the day referenced it. There is a good chance the explorers might name Newfoundland that, at least at first. Let us not forget that the French thought they would reach China going up the Saint Lawrence River, hence the naming of the Lachine Rapids.
This historical coincidence that was real Brazil and mythological Brazil amuses me. It would be nice to see the association becoming more mainstream in this TL.
Alcaçovas.
Advancement discovering America 40 years and about 60 years the discovery and exploration of North America Portuguese (Newfoundland)!!!
If it is decided established their presence, will prevent (I guess) that Basque fisheries of Newfoundland are installed there.
The arrival in Portugal of Colon (like a castaway) and her life there, be interesting to see as they are affected by butterflies.
In any case these events are likely to affect the terms of the treaty Alcaçovas (in 1479), more explicit for future claims of Portugal.
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/15th_century/sppo01.asp
Advancement discovering America 40 years and about 60 years the discovery and exploration of North America Portuguese (Newfoundland)!!!
If it is decided established their presence, will prevent (I guess) that Basque fisheries of Newfoundland are installed there.
The arrival in Portugal of Colon (like a castaway) and her life there, be interesting to see as they are affected by butterflies.
In any case these events are likely to affect the terms of the treaty Alcaçovas (in 1479), more explicit for future claims of Portugal.
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/15th_century/sppo01.asp