Reading some of the threads on here about Kaiserreich and its realism as alternate history, the consensus seems to be (rightly) that the most implausible things about Kaisereich are the US civil war and the German intervention in China. So my question is, as far as events in Europe go, how plausible/realistic is Kaiserreich on a scale of 1-10?
How Realistic is Kaiserreich Without China and the USA
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7-8, when some people would call strech about western socialist-communist revolution, remmeber 1871 for france and social warfare in england was pretty bad and a 'defeat' even a white peace would be the straw who broke camel back. when france would did fall and maybe here germany exhaust would leave alone, russia mostly the same too. England roll the dice if loyalist can win or no.
the rest, for me liked it, but yeah both china and usa were pretty ASBish(not even rast was that bad,and here the gringos simple not care for the war)
the rest, for me liked it, but yeah both china and usa were pretty ASBish(not even rast was that bad,and here the gringos simple not care for the war)
I don't think it's the idea of a second US civil war as much as it is, how this civil war happens. A 4 way clusterfuck basically with the option of a Douglas Macarthur led dictatorship is a bit of a stretch.
But that's like every Second American Civil War timeline on this site!
And you'll notice that The Falcon Cannot Hear is probably the only one of those that makes the remotest bit of sense.
Having worked on the Kaiserreich scenario (most prominently on France) and endeavouring into alternate Great Wars, I also suscribe to the idea that, if we forget to a degree Asia or the whole of America, Kaiserreich is quite realistic.
Why didn't you guys just leave China under the Republic and have a Syndicalist state in the mountains. It would have made more sense that what the final result was.
I think the problem is that most 2nd Civil War scenarios have implausible causes for the war.
excatly, maybe heavily negative modifiers and high dissident but nothing bad, i think they try to advert the NHIA(Nothing happen in America) trope but failed to do it pausable. china is not bad, ironically would make sense if were the japanase whow ere rulling there.
For my part I tend to think it would make more sense without the simultaneous right wing uprising. An attempt by a radical communist party with serious chances of winning the presidency of holding a revolution isn't really that weird. The ultra american southern states also rebelling for some reason I just don't buy. Who needs that, it seems like they would mostly be patsy's for McArthur if he has his coup, or they'd try for neutrality like the pacific. Even that's unrealistic though.
And otherwise I think Europe itself is fine, I think that Russia is weird only in that the idiot Kerensky could hold onto power for that many years before someone offed him and took power for themselves. No one fought for Kerensky in the civil war just like no one fought for the empire, so why is he in charge rather than Kolchak.
I believe China was set up strangely in the very first version of the mod, by the original devs, about 8 years ago. Ever since, new dev teams have been trying to make it work but without completely erasing the intentions of the original team and scenario.
And to give them credit, they did a good job of that with India in the last go round. I'd still say that the whole three way split between empire, less evil empire, and possibly the republic, is kind of poorly thought out every time the mod does it. (EG Kingdom of Spain, Carlilist Spain and Anarchist Spain)
