Hail Zion!: The Rise of Israel

JayoCynic22

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What's up guys this is my first post and do to the negativity I've seen regarding the possibility of some some scenarios I've decided to start a long shot timeline. In this thread I'm going to detail how an Israeli loss, but survival, in the Yom Kippur War could lead to a rise of a theocratic Israel

a kingdom headed by the radical Rabbi Meir Kahane (see link: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meir_Kahane)

and eventually an Israel with borders strongly resembling Greater Israel (see link: https://storify.com/occpal/israel-not-looking-for-peace-nor-talks-but-this)

I am open to suggestions on how to make this work
NOTE: this is not a discussion on if it is or was possible, rather a timeline assuming it is.
 

JayoCynic22

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The Loss at Yom Kippur

-POD: Israel loses the Yom Kippur War

-On October 25th, 1973, the Yom Kippur War ends after two weeks of violent fighting. However, Egyptian president Anwar Sadat will not leave empty handed.
The Egyptian ruler's plan for the destruction of Israel has been foiled by the United Nations, (mostly the US and Europe), but as victor of the war, he still holds power over Israel. His demands for peace are simple: the Sinai returns to Egypt, the Golan to Syria, and the West Bank, Gaza and Jerusalem to the Palastinians. The UN concedes, and Israel, bankrupt and army destroyed, is forced to agree. The morale of the Israeli people falls to a national low, and paranoia becomes prevelant as the Jewish people fear the Arabs might kick then while they're down. The Israeli capital is moved to Tel Aviv.
 

TickTock The Witch's Dead

JayoCynic22 said:
-POD: Israel loses the Yom Kippur War

-On October 25th, 1973, the Yom Kippur War ends after two weeks of violent fighting. However, Egyptian president Anwar Sadat will not leave empty handed.
The Egyptian ruler's plan for the destruction of Israel has been foiled by the United Nations, (mostly the US and Europe), but as victor of the war, he still holds power over Israel. His demands for peace are simple: the Sinai returns to Egypt, the Golan to Syria, and the West Bank, Gaza and Jerusalem to the Palastinians. The UN concedes, and Israel, bankrupt and army destroyed, is forced to agree. The morale of the Israeli people falls to a national low, and paranoia becomes prevelant as the Jewish people fear the Arabs might kick then while there down.
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That sound counterintuitive to your POD.
 

zoomar

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Israel lost its buffers, its military, and most of its land. I'd say that is counterintuitive.
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I guess he wants the first piece (a radical, militant, revisionist, fundamentalist, Israeli regime) first and the rest will happen later.

One thing to consider in opposition to the subsequent part of this TL. Actually the enforced UN settlement is not a whole lot different from what earlier Israeli governments were willing to trade for a formal peace treaty with the frontline Arab states, but in this case Arab states have won it on the battlefield. In this TL, Israel, as the defeated and weakened party, retains strong broad western support - not just US support - and the UN "concession" could actually form the basis of a negotiated two-state solution meaningfully enforced by the UN Security Council. All Israel gives up is any pretention that Jerusalem is its capital. In retrospect, this might be something reasonable Israelis might give up.
 

JayoCynic22

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Not necessarily. I see where your coming from, but one has to remember a few things about our TL. An Arab victory is highly possible, in fact they had the edge during the first week of the war. If they keep that edge, they might be able to make it as far as to shell Jerusalem and defeat the Israeli army (my POD). If they do, they'd have a diplomatic edge in winning the Sinai back to Egypt, Golan back to Syria, and West Bank/Gaza/Jerusalem to the Palestinians for an establishment of their nation.
One must also consider though that no matter how bad Israel is beaten, a 1970's UN (specifically a 1970's US and West Europe) would never let Israel be destroyed.

So what we have is a scenario where the Arab nations hold power over Israel, but the UN holds power over the Arabs. My ATL solution to this is the "Treaty of al-Qudds" (Arab name for Jerusalem), A treaty ending the war on the above mentioned conditions. Israel compliance allows it's survival.

Make sense?
 
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JayoCynic22

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The Treaty of al-Quds

-November 1st, 1973, Jerusalem: After 12 hours of intense arguements and discussions, the Treaty of al-Quds is signed. The terms of the treaty, as formerly stated, force Israel to give the Sinai back to Egypt, the Golan back to Syria, and the West Bank, Gaza Strip and City of Jerusalem (now called al-Quds) to the Paseltinians in order to ensure it's survival against the Arab forces. Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir, leading a bankrupt nation and weakend army, begs the US to barder with Sadat. When US President Richard Nixon concedes to Sadats demands, as to not cause strife with Russia, Meir caves in and signs the treaty. She resigns 2 later, hated by the Jewish people for signing the Treaty of al-Quds.

-Yitzhak Rabin is elected as Prime Minster following the resignation of Golda Meir
 
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JayoCynic22

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The Establishment of Palestine

-November 5th, 1974: Yasser Arafat is inauguarted officially as the President of the brand new Palestine. He establishes al-Quds as his capital, and vows to never let the Jewish state to rise again

-November 8th, 1973: Arafat passes a mandatory conscription law in Palestine, and begins building the Palestinian army to the best of his ability.

-November 9th: The Sinai accords, a treaty of Arab alliance against Israel in the event she rises again, is signed by the Arab nations of Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Palestine, Iraq, Kuwait, Iran and Lebonon

-November 21st: Palestine applies for UN membership

-January 3rd, 1975: Palestine is granted a seat in the UN
 

JayoCynic22

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Note to everyone: Due to the long reaching implications of a TL like this I plan in having this TL go atleast to 2016. Sorry if that seems to long, but I don't see a logical way to establish an Israel like this is less time.
 

JayoCynic22

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The Kach Party

-Directly after the signing of the Treaty of al-Quds, a radical right-wing political party, the Kach Party, began having political support. Led by the extremist rabbi Meir Kahane, the Kach Party stands for a strong and independent Jewish state. Their message of a Greater Israel, a strong Torah-based government, a powerful Israeli military and the expulsion of Arabs from all Jewish lands holds serious ground both with young Jews, angered at their national embarrassment, and old Jews, paranoid of a Holocoast-like action being taken by the Arab states.

-In the 1977 Israeli Knesset elections, the Kach party takes 12 seats in the Knesset. Fearing the party growing power, many in the Israeli government begin a movement to outlaw the radical party on the basis of racism. The movement, though supported by most in the Knesset, is losing ground with the Jewish populace by the day, as more and more stand behind Meir Kahane's radical Kach Party Movement
 

JayoCynic22

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Meir Kahane Takes Power

-The Kach Party continues to gain popular support. With such mass paranoia amongst the Jewish populous, the radical message of Meir Kahane speaks hope for the Jewish State. In the 1981 Knesset elections, the Kach Party has enough support to take a massive majority in Israel's parliament, taking 40 of the Knesset 120 seats.

-January 1st, 1983: The Israeli Supreme Court bans the Kach Party from participating in any further elections, on the basis that Kahane's racist ideology is a "sin against democracy". Kahane and the his followers, roughly 3 million strong, are outraged

-May 20th, 1983: Meir Kahane leads an armed march of 20,000 Kach Party members on the Israali capital of Tel Aviv. By noon that day, all but 18 Knesset members have given up their seats peacefully. The remaining 18 are executed, and a new Israeli constitution is put into place. Written by Kahane, this new constitution establishes Israel as the Third Kingdom of Israel, with Torah as it constitution and Yahweh as it's Head of State. A form of government created by Meir Kahane, called the Halachic Monarchy is established and Kahane holds power as King of Israel
 

JayoCynic22

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Halachic Monarchy

-Kahane's Halachic Monarchy is a system of Absolute Monarchy, with a few exceptions:
-#1 kings are elected via direct democracy, as the bloodlines of David were lost to time
-#2 the Orthodox Jewish church must produce all candidates for king. As Torah is the law of the land, the church also acts as the kings legislative enforcers
-#3 the Knesset is still in action, however it acts only as check on the kings power, ensuring he never violates the Human Rights of Jews
-#4 the king rules for life unless impeached by the Church (for going against Torah in political action or daily life, or passing legislation against the welfare of the Jewish state) or Knesset (for violating the human rights of Jews)
 

SiddFinch1

Should are a much different. Immigrant population as fewer secular Jews leave America to go. Maybe less flee Ussr or less are accepted in
 

JayoCynic22

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May 20th, 1984

-Meir Kahane, having been elected via direct democracy, is crowned as King of Israel. However, many in the international community consider this crowning to be a mere ceremony, as Kahane as held absolute power sense the forced take over exactly a year prior

-In his acceptance speech, Meir Kahane makes very radical statements. He decries the Arab, swears to banish them all from Jewish lands, reclaim Jerusalem, and give Israel "The land of milk and honey, from Nile to the Euphrates". He also swears the Israeli army will rise above all in the world, that every Jew will have food, a job and a home, and that Israel will "Never again accept a nickel from a foreign nation, never again answer to a higher government".

-Later on that day, Israel announces it is leaving all international organizations, including the UN, and passes legislation expelling all Arabs from Israel's borders. Israel soon becomes the most isolated country in the world. (A la North Korea)
 

JayoCynic22

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The World Reacts

-Kahane, despite his violent takeover, racist ideology, isolationism, totalitarian rule, and militant, fundamentalist government, stills holds one major ally in the international world; US President Ronald Reagan. A staunch Israel supporter, Reagan says of Kahane "He is just the man they need in Israel. A man who will not let his people be bullied by the violent regimes surrounding them. I think he has the potential to be the greatest Jewish leader sense King David himself."

-The Arab community is in an uproar. Egyptian President Anwar Sadat begins building his military as a precaution against the new Israeli regime. Yasser Arafat, President of Palestine, sends his army to the Israeli border in defensive position as a further precaution against Kahane. The whole world watches as the Arabs and Israelis alike arm themselves for the impending years of war.
 
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