From Marienburg to Vienna: a Teutonic Timeline

BACKGROUND


The Order of the Teutonic Knights had started its Crusade against pagans in Old Prussia by 1230, as the Papacy had granted them the rule of most of the lands in the Eastern side of the Baltic Sea, from the mouth of the Vistula River until the Gulf of Finland.
They fought against diverse Baltic tribes in their effort for converting them to the Catholic faith, even if this also caused frictions with other neighboring Christian powers, like the Polish Kingdom. Meanwhile, the Order had found new cities and created new croplands in the area, allowing many Germanic people to settle there, thus ensuring their effective control over those new conquered lands.
One of those cities was Marienburg (called Malbork in Polish), founded next to an important fortress built in 1274 by the Knights. The city complex would become after 1309 the Order’s headquarters, as well as their more important military stronghold in Prussia.



The Baltic area at the end of the 13th century


CHAPTER I: THE WINRICH'S PLANS


This story starts in this city, in Marienburg, during the summer of 1381. The Order is currently ruled by the Grandmaster Winrich von Kniprode, who have been in charge of the Teutonic Knights since 1351, thus being one of the longest serving Grandmasters ever. The Order is at the height of its power, ruling over Prussia (including Pomerelia), Estonia and Livonia. However, Winrich is worried about some issues that are threatening to weaken the privileged position achieved by the Knights.
Since the Treaty of Kalisch (1343), which put an end to several years of war against Poland, the Polish King has become a patron of the Order, so the Teutonic Knights are obliged to assist Poland when required and pay some symbolic tributes to him; otherwise, they would lose their legal rights over some territories, like Pomerelia.


Winrich von Kniprode, 22nd Grandmaster of the Teutonic Knights

Another annoying neighbor is the Grand Duchy of Lithuania. After several campaigns against the Lithuanians, the Order has been unable to force their pagan elites to convert to Catholicism. There is also the risk that they could eventually convert to Orthodox Christianity and ally with the Russian principalities. At this moment, Lithuania is stormed by a civil war between Duke Jogaila and his uncle Kestutis. Under the promise of a possible Catholic baptism, the Knights are supporting Jogaila against his uncle, who currently holds the Lithuanian capital, Vilnius.
The relations between the Order and the Papacy are also tense. The Popes are, in fact, the legal owners of the Monastic state ruled by the Order, so they have the power to interfere in the Order’s administration if they consider it necessary. Rome have been investigating alleged misconducts in many of the Order actions, and even considered to prosecute them as the Holy See had done before with other orders, like the Templar one. Since the Teutonic Order moved its headquarters from Venice to Marienburg in 1309, in order to prevent any hostile action against them, the relation with Rome has become increasingly colder, and the fate of the Order, once their goals in the Baltic would be accomplished, are not clear.
Winrich is 71 years old and his health is no longer good. He feels that his days are coming to an end and now he rarely gets out of the Castle of Marienburg. He thinks about her past successes commanding the Order, like the battle of Rudau, where the Lithuanian troops of Kestutis were ultimately crushed. But now, when he is feeling that he is approaching the end of his life, he is worried about the fate of the Order. He firmly thinks that, once Lithuania would be Christianized, the Order would lose the diminishing favor of the Pope and other Christian princes, and then the Teutonic Knights could follow the same path of the Templers. Or maybe, they would be finally left to the Polish mercy.
One night, Winrich awakes and a vague idea comes to his mind. There is a chance of survival for the Order, if they would be able to convert the Monastic state into a dynastic one, where the Order could survive as somehow militarized high nobility, with dynastic rights over the lands they actually rule.
Winrich spends some days thinking about this idea. He wants to award his loyal knights with permanent land rights there, once the Crusade would be over, which is something that could be imminent if Jogaila wins the Lithuanian war and converts to Catholicism as promised. But he does not trust Jogaila; other Lithuanian rulers promised similar things in the past, but they ultimately avoided conversion. Additionally, Winrich has heard of the intentions of Jogaila’s mother to arrange a marriage between his son and the daughter of a Russian prince, implying that Jogaila should convert to Orthodox Christianity.
Winrich finally finds a possible, but risky solution to the problem: as they cannot take over their own Monastic state without enraging the Pope and his allies, the Order should allow that another state, controlled by the Order, would do it. Of course, this can’t be Poland or Lithuania themselves.
The Grandmaster starts to consider Samogitia as a possible option. Another of the promises of Jogaila was ceding Samogitia to the Order if they supported him as legitimate Lithuanian Duke. Maybe they should not incorporate Samogitia into the Monastic state, and better let it to be an independent duchy controlled by the Order.
Samogitia was a pagan land, very difficult to control due to the savageness of the territory, almost uncivilized. The establishment of a Christian duchy there is quite challenging, even if Lithuania cedes its rights over the land. The Order always considered this land as strategically important, as its control would allow the land connection between Prussia and Livonia. But their repeated attempts of conquest always failed miserably.
At the beginning of the autumn, Winrich is secretly planning the creation of an independent duchy in Samogitia, once Jogaila would have ceded this land to the Order. The Grandmaster has no intention to waste forces in enacting effective control of the Order over that pagan land; this is something that could wait. Now he is searching for a loyal knight that could accept the mandate of becoming Duke of Samogitia. Winrich plans to recognize him as an independent ruler of Samogitia, and therefore he should claim the lands of the Monastic state for himself. So, with this legal trick Winrich hopes that the Monastic regime could be revoked, as well as their current duties with Poland.
But this plan is very risky. Many knights are fanatic Catholic and could misinterpret this gesture as an attack to the Pope’s authority. And other knights could suspect that this legal change could undermine their own personal expectations in those lands. Winrich does not want fratricide fights inside the Order for achieving power quotas, but he is increasingly worried about the position of the Order once the Lithuanian war would have finished. He has nothing to lose, because his life is coming to the end.
During the winter, Winrich sends a messenger to Lithuania in order to debate with Jogaila the eventual option of creating an independent duchy in Samogitia, if he wins. Winrich knows that the Lithuanians may not accept an independent Samogitia, so it’s important to ensure that the Lithuanian Duke would not protest this move.
The messenger meets Jogaila, who suspects of the real intentions behind that idea, but he does not refuse it. Anyway, the messenger misinterprets his words and tells Winrich that Jogaila is not interested in the idea of an independent Samogitia.
Winrich concludes that his plans would not work with Jogaila in the Lithuanian throne, and also doubts about the real intentions of Jogaila regarding his eventual baptism. Now, he thinks that it’s time to explore the possibilities of changing sides in the Lithuanian war, so he sends again the same messenger back to Lithuania with the mission of contacting Vytautas, the son of Kestutis and cousin of Jogaila.


Vytautas, son of the Duke Kestutis of Lithuania
 
Most interesting indeed, far too few timelines deal with the most stylish Crusading Order.

While I'm no expert on the time or area, it seems like your POD is intended to prevent the Polish-Lithuanian union, an absolute necessity for the Order to remain independent. Even then it'll still be in a tight spot as its lands are rebellious, Lithuania is ideally placed to pick up the pieces of the disintegrating Golden Horde, and the rapidly diminishing number of pagans to conquer and convert is destroying its very raison d'etre. Also, I'm not sure if it's plausible for them to become a dynastic state before the Protestant Reformation. Sure, some of the knights would doubtlessly love to do away with the whole chastity thing and become Feudal lords, but it's rather difficult to pull off without giving all your neighbors (who you've been at odds with for a hundred some years) a great excuse to come and take a bite.

Not sure how Vienna will come into things, but I can totally see a Protestant Teutonic state with eyes on Northern Germany and the Catholic Hapsburg Emperors becoming bitter enemies... but wedged between Poland, Lithuania, Scandinavia, and whatever emerges in Russia the Order will probably want to avoid attracting even more enemies for a good long while.
 
Most interesting indeed, far too few timelines deal with the most stylish Crusading Order.

Thanks to all for the positive reviews :D

While I'm no expert on the time or area, it seems like your POD is intended to prevent the Polish-Lithuanian union, an absolute necessity for the Order to remain independent. Even then it'll still be in a tight spot as its lands are rebellious, Lithuania is ideally placed to pick up the pieces of the disintegrating Golden Horde, and the rapidly diminishing number of pagans to conquer and convert is destroying its very raison d'etre.

At first yes, but you will see that the Order would need of both of them to carry on their plans. Even if OTL Polish-Lithuanian union should be prevented for avoiding a powerful coalition that would crush the Order power, it's mostly ASB to pretend that it could survive for long if they are constantly confronted to both Poland and Lithuania.

Also, I'm not sure if it's plausible for them to become a dynastic state before the Protestant Reformation. Sure, some of the knights would doubtlessly love to do away with the whole chastity thing and become Feudal lords, but it's rather difficult to pull off without giving all your neighbors (who you've been at odds with for a hundred some years) a great excuse to come and take a bite.

Well, this is the main goal of the first part of this TL. After Lithuanian becoming Catholic, the mission of the Order in the Baltic area is over, so its fate is doubtful at that moment. As it is reflected in this first chapter, in the Order, like in other middle-age Orders that went on Crusades, there are mixed interests: some Knights were fanatic and got into the Crusade thing by religious principles, but others wanted to escalate and got land rights and other material rewards from the lands they conquered.

Not sure how Vienna will come into things, but I can totally see a Protestant Teutonic state with eyes on Northern Germany and the Catholic Hapsburg Emperors becoming bitter enemies... but wedged between Poland, Lithuania, Scandinavia, and whatever emerges in Russia the Order will probably want to avoid attracting even more enemies for a good long while.

It will come far later, not before Reformation events :rolleyes:
 

Alkahest

Banned
Having recently gained an interest in the Teutonic Knights, I will be following this. Well written, and a fascinating idea!
 
CHAPTER II: THE SAMOGITIAN DUCHY


Winrich von Kniprode is living his last weeks of life at the beginning of 1382. He writes a letter explaining the details of his plans for the Order, and he later gives it to one of his most loyal knights, Manfred Steiner.
After Winrich’s death, Konrad Zöllner von Rothenstein succeeds him as Grandmaster. Only a few days after his appointment, Steiner tells Zöllner about the letter and the plans of Winrich regarding Samogitia and the Monastic state.
At first, Zöllner refuses to follow the instructions that Winrich had written in the letter, but he later knows that the messenger that Winrich sent to Lithuania in the search of Vytautas has returned with interesting news.
Vytautas, who has realized that he can’t win the war against Jogaila and his allies, is ready to travel to Marienburg and receive baptism as Catholic if the Knights withdraw his troops from the Lithuanian war. Additionally, he is also eager to allow the creation of a new free duchy in Samogitia.
Zöllner, as Winrich, does not trust Jogaila at all, and now Vytautas gives them the opportunity to baptize him in Prussian soil. The new Grandmaster is still reluctant to proceed with the Samogitian plan but he does not want to miss the chance of baptizing Vytautas and then putting him in the Lithuanian throne as a new Catholic Prince.
The Grandmaster orders the Knights that are fighting in Lithuania to bring Vytautas to Marienburg, without informing Jogaila about their intentions. Vytautas arrives to Marienburg in May, and he is baptized just three days later.
The Order immediately withdraws from the Lithuanian war, leaving Jogaila’s troops to their own fate. Zöllner and the other Order authorities recognizes Vytautas as new Duke of Lithuania, and invites the Pope and the Holy Roman Emperor to do the same, now that he is officially a Catholic Prince.
Jogaila feels that he has been betrayed by the Knights and declares war to them. However, Kestutis still control Vilnius and he allows the Knights to enter the city, bringing Vytautas back with them. Vytautas is crowned as new Duke in October 1382, after his father renounced to the throne. The new Duke Vytautas declares Lithuania as an official Catholic country shortly after, and all his loyal nobility accepts to be baptized.
Meanwhile, the troops of Jogaila try to siege Vilnius, but new Knights coming from Prussia succeeds in breaking the siege. After a couple of months battling, Jogaila is captured and imprisoned. He would die in prison only some months later.
On April 25th 1383, the Teutonic Order and the Grand Duchy of Lithuania sign the Treaty of Vilnius. The treaty establishes a stable border between both powers and grants independence to the newly created Duchy of Samogitia. Lithuania accepts that the duchy would be administered by the Teutonic Order, but without full sovereignty over their lands.
Konrad Zöllner decides to support Manfred Steiner as first duke of Samogitia, which is accepted by Vytautas. Zöllner wanted that the plans written by Winrich would be kept as secret as possible, as he is aware that many knights inside the Order might not approve them, not to say external powers.
The first step that Zöllner agrees with Steiner is the cession of Memel as new capital of the Samogitian Duchy. Steiner and the knights he ‘borrowed’ from the Order for ruling and converting the pagans of the duchy do not feel safe enough in proper Samogitia, so they demanded the cession of the neighboring city of Memel for acting as the new Samogitian capital.
So Zöllner signs a treaty with Samogitia where the Order approves the cession of all the Prussian lands north to the Neman River, thus including Memel. In exchange, Samogitia promises to not declare war without the approval of the Teutonic Order and accepts to be a sort of Teutonic protectorate.
Now that peace with Lithuania is guaranteed and Samogitia has become a puppet state, Zöllner advices Steiner to not proceed with more steps of the Winrich’s plans by that moment, and better concentrate in the conversion and assimilation of pagan Samogitians.
However, Zöllner has just assumed the plans of Winrich as if they were their own. He also feels that now that officially both Samogitia and Lithuania are ruled by Catholic elites, the existence of the Order in the area is just not necessary, if not even disturbing.
The Grandmaster first plans to merge all Prussia with Samogitia and reconvert the Prussian branch of the Order in a sort of militarized high nobility that could dispose of inheritable land rights in both territories with no longer Papal interference. He also considers that they could also join the Livonian branch of the Order, something that could guarantee enough power to fight their common enemies when needed.



Jadwiga, 'King' of Poland since 1384

But the recent events in Poland lead Zöllner to change his mind. The young princess Jadwiga has been crowned in October 1384 as ‘King’ of Poland, after the controversial dissolution of the personal union between the crowns of Poland and Hungary. Then, Zöllner changes his plans and offers Steiner, duke of Samogitia, who is obviously unmarried, the possibility of marrying Jadwiga, thus becoming the new King of Poland.

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Alkahest

Banned
Very interesting. But what does Pope Urban VI think about this new statelet? If I was in his shoes I would probably interpret it at some Sinister Teutonic Scheme (tm) to remove the last shreds of ecclesiastical control from the Baltic.

Closer to home, I wonder what the actual Samogitians think about this.

A great read, keep it up! :)
 
Very interesting. But what does Pope Urban VI think about this new statelet? If I was in his shoes I would probably interpret it at some Sinister Teutonic Scheme (tm) to remove the last shreds of ecclesiastical control from the Baltic.

You are anticipating some events from the third chapter :D

Closer to home, I wonder what the actual Samogitians think about this.

A great read, keep it up! :)

Thanks :D

Well, at this moment proper Samogitians are not very affected since the real power of the duchy is restricted to the Memel area, which is German.
The problems will come later, when the duke wanted to enforce his power over proper Samogitia.
 
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At first yes, but you will see that the Order would need of both of them to carry on their plans. Even if OTL Polish-Lithuanian union should be prevented for avoiding a powerful coalition that would crush the Order power, it's mostly ASB to pretend that it could survive for long if they are constantly confronted to both Poland and Lithuania

Definitely, something will have to happen to keep the Poles and Lithuanians weakened and distracted for a good long while, and by some miracle the Order will have to restrain itself from getting too trigger happy to prevent them from allying against them. From what little I've read it seems that Poland/Lithuania, and the Teutonic Order had a severe case of chronic backstabbing disorder against each other which would make peace, much less cooperation between them very difficult.

Well, this is the main goal of the first part of this TL. After Lithuanian becoming Catholic, the mission of the Order in the Baltic area is over, so its fate is doubtful at that moment. As it is reflected in this first chapter, in the Order, like in other middle-age Orders that went on Crusades, there are mixed interests: some Knights were fanatic and got into the Crusade thing by religious principles, but others wanted to escalate and got land rights and other material rewards from the lands they conquered.

I don't know much about the relationship between the Order and the Church, but OTL didn't they last for about a century after Lithuania converted?

CHAPTER II: THE SAMOGITIAN DUCHY

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Well, looks like the Commonwealth's been nipped in the bud, and since Vytautus already has a wife he can't marry Jadwiga himself. What does the Polish nobility think about the idea of Jadwiga marrying a former knight? OTL they were a force behind her marriage to Jogaila, and I doubt they'd be happy about having dynastic ties to those darned knights. It'd be more plausible for them to support the Duke of Mazovia, or even one of the Hapsburgs...

I wonder if Lithuania will drift into Muscovy's sphere instead, OTL Vytautus' only daughter married the Grand Duke. Though a Muscovy/Lithuania could be just as bad for the Order as Poland/Lithuania was.

Anywhoo, great update (though there's some minor grammar), and I look forward to more!
 

Deimos

Banned
[...]The treaty establishes a stable border between both powers and grants independence to the newly created Duchy of Samogitia. Lithuania accepts that the duchy would be administered by the Teutonic Order, but without full sovereignty over their lands. [...]
What does this mean specifically?

This Steiner character becoming duke is somewhat problematic with the order's monastic rules and vows, the same can be said for Steiner marrying. That said, he can leave the order and still be very closely associated with it.
One very easy way to do this would be taking the newly-acquired lands from pagan und disloyal nobles and "donating" them to the order which effectively puppetizes a lot of the new dukedom, while maintaining the (admittedly thin) veneer of non-Teutonic control

[...]Then, Zöllner changes his plans and offers Steiner, duke of Samogitia, who is obviously unmarried, the possibility of marrying Jadwiga, thus becoming the new King of Poland.
What would they offer Poland? Matrilineal marriage, Pomerelia?
Poland has still much to gain from forming alliances against the order, so what incentive can the order/Steiner give to Jadwiga in order to keep her from doing so?


Keep up the interesting work!
 
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Thanks to everybody for the reviews :D

I don't know much about the relationship between the Order and the Church, but OTL didn't they last for about a century after Lithuania converted?

Yes, because a) the Papacy was not strong enough to force the Order out of those lands (mostly because of the trouble of the Western Schism), and the Knights did not want to leave by themselves; b) the Knights supported the Pope in Rome against Avignon, even if their relations were not good c) once the Knights were defeated in 1410, they become puppetized by Poland and the Prussian branch gradually disbanded until Reformation, when Prussia was secularized. So they stopped to be a problem for the others after 1410, only 25 years after Lithuanian conversion, in fact.

Well, looks like the Commonwealth's been nipped in the bud, and since Vytautus already has a wife he can't marry Jadwiga himself. What does the Polish nobility think about the idea of Jadwiga marrying a former knight? OTL they were a force behind her marriage to Jogaila, and I doubt they'd be happy about having dynastic ties to those darned knights. It'd be more plausible for them to support the Duke of Mazovia, or even one of the Hapsburgs...

Nothing good, but all depends on the terms of the offer. You will know more about it in the next chapter :D

Anywhoo, great update (though there's some minor grammar), and I look forward to more!

I know. Sorry, but English is not my mother tongue, so I have to make an effort to write these articles. I hope that you all will forgive my grammar mistakes :eek:

This Steiner character becoming duke is somewhat problematic with the order's monastic rules and vows, the same can be said for Steiner marrying. That said, he can leave the order and still be very closely associated with it.

True, you are anticipating some (rather obvious) events here :D

What would they offer Poland? Matrilineal marriage.
Pomerelia?
Poland has still much to gain from forming alliances against the order, so what incentive can the order/Steiner give to Jadwiga in order to keep her from doing so?

You will see :D
 
CHAPTER III: A NEW ORDER IS BORN


Manfred Steiner, Duke of Samogitia, is ready to marry Jadwiga, even if this would mean that he must leave the Order, if finally the Grandmaster Konrad Zöllner manages to arrange the engagement. However, this is a compromise that will require a lot of deals, so Zöllner takes his time planning this.

First, he has to solve the status of Steiner and other Knights that are now ruling the Samogitian Duchy. If he wants to establish a dynastic state, they can’t belong to the religious Teutonic Order anymore. However, he does not want to force them to leave it completely, especially when he needs them for his plans. Finally he opts for the creation of a sister military order for them, but scrapping all the religious restrictions: their members will be able to marry and their children could inherit their land rights and material possessions, thus becoming a sort of clan of militarized landlords. The duke of Samogitia would be the patron of the new order, and the count of Memel could be its master.

Another difficult point is that related to the terms of the offer to Poland. Zöllner knows that Polish nobles will only prioritize the Samogitian offer over the others if this is clearly the most advantageous for them. The Grandmaster obviously thinks about giving Pomerelia back to the Poles, but this would be not enough for success, so he explores a more risky offer: apart of restoring Pomerelia back into the Polish Crown, the duke of Samogitia should offer the establishment of a dual Crown including Prussia in the Samogitian side. This would mean that the Order would donate all Prussia to Samogitia, finally secularizing their lands and ensuring that all the knights that wanted to leave the religious order, and join the secularized one, could gain land rights in Prussia itself. Those Knights that wanted to keep their status could be relocated to the Livonian Order, to proceed with the Crusade against the Orthodox Russians. The Order headquarters should be moved again from Marienburg to Grobin, in Curland; so, the Polish would also butterfly away the threats from the Prussian branch of the Order, as it would no longer exist.
Of course such offer could be pretty attractive for the Polish nobility (Pomerelia, extinction of the Prussian branch of the Order and personal union with Samogitia-Prussia) and it will also solve the problems of the Order (let some knights to obtain land rights in Prussia while the others could be relocated to Livonia); but it would probably enrage many other powers: Lithuania, the Papacy and the Holy Roman Empire (including the German branch of the Order).

Then, Zöllner considers including Lithuania in the treaty with Poland. Now, the two nations are Catholic and might be a good idea to forge a stable alliance between Lithuania and the union between the Order lands and Poland (a so-called ‘Triple Alliance’). But, of course, Lithuania should obtain something tangible for joining them. The Orders (both the religious current one and the secularized new one) could promise Lithuania to defend it from any eventual attack from the Russian side (since Lithuania has become Catholic, it have risen some tension between Vilnius and the Russian principalities, interested in controlling Orthodox Lithuanian lands) and maybe Poland could cede some uninteresting lands from the Ukrainian regions to the Lithuanian southern territories.
The Grandmaster is not greatly concerned about the eventual problems with both the Papacy and the Empire. Pope Urban VI is now involved in the Western Schism troubles, as well as the Empire. Even if they will probably disapprove the withdrawal from Prussia and the dissolution of the Prussian branch of the Order, they are currently not in a good position for preventing it if they arrange all things quickly.



Pope Urban VI


Zöllner travels to Memel and tells his plans to Steiner. He accepts to patronize the new sister order and calls the other Knights he has brought to Memel. All but one accepts to withdraw from the old Order and Zöllner recognizes all of them as Knights of the new Teutonic Order of Samogitia (TOS); some days later, he signs a Treaty with Steiner, recognizing him as its new patron and both decide the legal terms of the new order, which also becomes under the special protection of the Teutonic Knights. Steiner also withdraws his vows regarding chastity, so now he is able to marry.

Once the problems about the status of the Samogitian knights are successfully solved, Zöllner sends a messenger to Cracow with the written offer to the Polish nobles. This initial offer does not contain the inclusion of Prussia in the Samogitian lot, but states the Order intentions to move its headquarters from Marienburg to Grobin ‘because now our enemies are far north’. The reactions of the Polish nobility are mixed: some of the nobles see in the offer the chance of recovering Pomerelia and diminish the presence of the Teutonic Knights in the north of the Kingdom; other nobles do not trust the offer and call for accepting a different husband for Jadwiga.
Meanwhile, Zöllner himself travels to Vilnius and meets Vytautas. Both leaders talk in secret about Zöllner plans. Since Vytautas accepted to be baptized in Prussian soil, the Grandmaster and the Grand Duke have maintained a very trustable relation. Vytautas accepts the ‘Triple Alliance’ with Samogitia and Poland, even the possibility of ceding some southern lands to Poland if the Knights help Lithuania against the increasing hostilities from the Russian principalities. Zöllner promises that both his Order and the new Samogitian Order will help him against the Russians.

Back to Marienburg, Zöllner announces the creation of the secular Samogitian Order and invites all Knights to join it if they do not want to proceed with the Crusade; all the others should prepare to depart to Livonia, where they will fight against the Russians in alliance with the now Catholic Lithuanians. Most of the knights accept to join the Samogitian Order, expecting to be granted with lands in Samogitia; others accept to depart to Livonia, but many of them do not understand why they are leaving Prussia in hands of the newborn Samogitian Order, which is still not consolidated. Zöllner proclaims that now that the Lithuanian Crusade is over, they are more useful in the Livonian border with the Russian lands; but some of the most fanatical Knights don’t trust him.
While part of the Knights are preparing for departing to Grobin, the messenger comes back to Marienburg with an official request for both Zöllner and Steiner to attend a meeting in Cracow for discussing the Samogitian offer for Jadwiga’s hand.
 

Deimos

Banned
This is not a natural evolution of the order - this is a revolution. :eek:

Secularizing the order does give up a lot of its benefits - no church taxation or a centrally planned economy, internal motivation because of their holy mission, for example.


It would be really easy for any pope and probably necessary to declare them heretics for effectively dissolving themselves and taking order (i.e. indirectly papal) land for themselves. Through that the order can lose its powerbase in the German nobility really quickly, the Hanseatic league might be forced to look elsehwere for business and Poland and Lithuania might try to "save" the newly-Catholic lands from these damable heretics.

I am especially worried because it negates so much of the foundations of the order and goes against a lot of the worldview of the Western Middle Ages.

Hopefully, the rule "no plan survives cotact with the enemy" applies here. Otherwise it would hardly be a "Teutonic" TL anymore when the order is dissolved on the fourth update of the TL. ;)
 

Alkahest

Banned
I really wonder how the general public (or, well, noblemen and rich burghers) will react to the Order's secularization. The romantic crusader ideal was still very much alive, and the Teutonic Knights derived enough goodwill from being the selfless defenders of Christendom to withstand opposition from powers both secular and ecclesiastical. PR was important back then, as well.
 
This is not a natural evolution of the order - this is a revolution. :eek:

Well, otherwise it would be not that interesting :D

Anyway, we all know that their 'natural evolution' meant IOTL to decline until disappearing in the Baltics at the early 1500s

Secularizing the order does give up a lot of its benefits - no church taxation or a centrally planned economy, internal motivation because of their holy mission, for example.

Once Lithuania converted to Catholicism there is no holy mission anymore, at least for the Prussian branch. This is the idea behind this TL, how to cope with this new situation (and not fall into inerce like IOTL).

It would be really easy for any pope and probably necessary to declare them heretics for effectively dissolving themselves and taking order (i.e. indirectly papal) land for themselves. Through that the order can lose its powerbase in the German nobility really quickly, the Hanseatic league might be forced to look elsehwere for business and Poland and Lithuania might try to "save" the newly-Catholic lands from these damable heretics.

That would might be true if the Pope would have not been in the difficult situation that Urban VI was then, with the Western Schism ongoing and two other anti-popes. Probably if Urban VI declared them as heretics, they should have backed the anti-Pope in Avignon, and surely Urban VI did not want this.

I am especially worried because it negates so much of the foundations of the order and goes against a lot of the worldview of the Western Middle Ages.

Well, the Order itself does not change, and remember that its larger bulk is at the HRE. This TL treats about the creation of a minor secular one (like many others of the era) that could be used for the Prussian branch to keep their rights in Prussia once the Crusade is over.

Hopefully, the rule "no plan survives cotact with the enemy" applies here. Otherwise it would hardly be a "Teutonic" TL anymore when the order is dissolved on the fourth update of the TL. ;)

You will see that Zöllner plans for the new Order are not that easy to enforce, obviously :D

I really wonder how the general public (or, well, noblemen and rich burghers) will react to the Order's secularization. The romantic crusader ideal was still very much alive, and the Teutonic Knights derived enough goodwill from being the selfless defenders of Christendom to withstand opposition from powers both secular and ecclesiastical. PR was important back then, as well.

Well, certainly this was just declining by 1400. The 'general public' will be more worried if the Knights left Prussia as the Crusade against Lithuania is over.
 
CHAPTER IV: MANFRED, KING OF POLAND


In September 1385, Grandmaster Konrad Zöllner and Manfred Steiner, Duke of Samogitia, travel to Cracow, in order to meet the council of Polish nobles that is effectively ruling the Kingdom of Poland while the ‘King’ Jadwiga is minor and unmarried.
Only once there, Zöllner explains his plans for forging a ‘Triple Alliance’ between Samogitia, Poland and Lithuania and his intention to transfer Prussia to the Samogitian Order administration, relocating the Teutonic Order to Grobin, in Livonia. Most of the Polish nobles are pleased with this perspective, as well as for recovering Pomerelia. Moreover, they also appreciate the attitude of Manfred Steiner, who is also able to speak some Polish, something unusual among the Knights.

After some days of negotiations, the council of Polish nobles finally agrees on the engagement of Duke Manfred and Jadwiga. They also agree to send representatives in the Order’s mission to Vilnius in order to forge an alliance with the Lithuanian Grand Duke Vytautas.

The Treaty of the Triple Alliance is signed in March 1386, in the chambers of Grand Duke Vytautas. Zöllner, Steiner and the Polish representatives sign the treaty, which establishes the alliance between Samogitia, Poland and Lithuania, ensuring mutual military assistance; the recognition of the new Samogitian Order, patronized by Duke Manfred; the relocation of the Teutonic Order to Livonia, in order to help Lithuania against eventual Russian raids; the engagement of Duke Manfred with Jadwiga of Poland, resulting in the personal union between Poland and Samogitia; and finally, the cession of Prussia to the Samogitian Order administration.
The treaty avoided to establish the ‘donation’ of Prussia for not enraging the Catholic Church or the German branch of the Order. It simply stated that Prussia will be administered by the Samogitian Order, since the headquarters of the Teutonic Knights are moved to Grobin, but it does not imply any change in the legal status of the Prussian lands. Zöllner consider that an immediate donation would be unacceptable for the Catholic Church and, which could be worse, many of the Knights that have not joined the Samogitian Order. The Grandmaster wants to relocate all of them to Livonia first, and then wait several years until executing the effective donation.
The Treaty of the Triple Alliance establishes, in fact, an Eastern Catholic political sphere. At this moment, the lands ruled by the Order, as well as Poland and Lithuania, lie between the Orthodox Russian sphere and the Holy Roman Empire. The Treaty was in general satisfactory for all sides, but obviously, it was not welcome by some external powers.

The Russian principalities are still annoyed because of the Vytautas conversion to Catholicism, and saw the Triple Alliance as an all-Eastern-Catholic alliance against them, even if Vytautas tries to keep good relations with them; anyway, the continued Mongol and Tartar raids distract them from an eventual major military intervention against the new alliance.
The Holy Roman Empire is also not pleased by the establishment of that alliance just in its Eastern borders, but in general, the Emperor and many Princes despised them as a bunch of minor powers. Anyway, some princes distrust the new Samogitian Order and call for dismantling the branches of the Teutonic Order operating outside the Empire, now that the Northern Crusade is over.
Both the Catholic Church and the German branch of the Order are worried about the fate of their interests in Prussia, and even if they understand that the headquarters of the Order should move to Grobin, messengers from the two entities arrive to Marienburg requesting information about the last decisions.

Duke Manfred and Jadwiga marry in September 1386 and Manfred receives the title of King of Poland. The Samogitian Order is renamed as Order of the Teutonic Knights of Poland and Samogitia, while Pomerelia is immediately restored to the Polish Crown. Now, King Manfred I establishes his royals in Cracow and appoints his close friend Ludwig Hochner as new count of Memel, who will rule Samogitia in his name, as well as Prussia, even if only de facto there.
Zöllner then signs the Treaty of Thorn with King Manfred I, establishing the concession of several rights over Prussia, even if the territory keeps its legal status and owners. However, this move is considered treason by a faction of the Knights remaining in the original Order; the leader of this important faction is Konrad von Wallenrode.


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Konrad von Wallenrode, Grandmaster of the Teutonic Order.


After some preparations, Zöllner and his remaining Knights depart to Grobin in April 1387, crossing Samogitia. But during the journey, the faction of Konrad von Wallenrode revolts and assassinates Zöllner before reaching the Livonian border. Von Wallenrode claims the title of Grandmaster for himself and commands the Knights back to Marienburg; but the count of Memel does not want to allow them to cross the Neman River back to Prussia.

Meanwhile, some of the Knights loyal to Zöllner escape and arrive to Grobin, where they meet the Master of the Livonian Order, Robin von Eltz, who strongly disapproves the assassination of Zöllner.
 
CHAPTER V: THE BATTLE OF MEMEL


Konrad von Wallenrode and his Knights try to return to Prussia, but the count of Memel and the Polish-Samogitian Knights intercept them when they were heading to Marienburg. Von Wallenrode and his Knights manage to shelter in a little fortress near Königsberg, while King Manfred I sends the Polish troops to capture this fortress while it suffers the siege of the Samogitians.
At the end, the combined forces of Polish and Samogitians capture the fortress and Konrad von Wallenrode is imprisoned in Memel. However, the German branch of the Teutonic Order recognizes him as the valid successor of Zöllner, who is declared a traitor.
Then, both the Pope and the Emperor back the petition of the Master of the German branch to release Konrad von Wallenrode and restore him as the legitimate Grandmaster in Marienburg. King Manfred I refuses to do so and threats to apply the death penalty to Von Wallenrode if his planned trial finds him guilty of assassination.

Considering that Manfred is not going to cede, the German branch of the Teutonic Order decides to launch a mission for rescuing Konrad von Wallenrode. King Manfred I is determined to defend Memel and calls for support to both Lithuania and the Livonian Order. Grand Duke Vytautas offers his help to the Polish-Samogitians, but the Livonian Order remains undecided.
Robin von Eltz, Master of the Livonian Order, supports King Manfred and refuses to recognize Von Wallenrode as the new Grandmaster. However, there are many Knights inside the Order claiming for joining the ‘legitimate’ Teutonic Knights and fight against the Polish-Samogitians. Trying to avoid an internal revolt in Livonia, Robin von Eltz lets the Knights who want to fight to depart to Memel, but meanwhile he is planning to resume the Order’s sovereignty and avoid any further involvement in the Prussian or German feuds.
In March 1388 a ferocious battle starts in the near of Memel: in one side the ‘legitimate’ Teutonic Knights coming from the Empire and some of them also from Livonia; in the other side the Samogitian Order and troops from Poland and Lithuania. The victory is finally for the Polish-Lithuanian-Samogitian side.

The defeat of the legitimate Teutonic Order in Memel brings a cascade of important consequences in the area. King Manfred declares this Order as ‘illegal’ in Polish or Samogitian lands, stating the secular Polish-Samogitian Order as the only one recognized by the Crown. He also takes legal control of Prussia, which is converted in a duchy in personal union with both Poland and Samogitia.
Konrad von Wallenrode is tried in Memel and he is declared guilty of assassination. Anyway, he dies a month later in prison, so he is not finally executed as planned. The German branch of the Teutonic Order becomes the only one, as the Prussian one becomes officially extinguished after Von Wallenrode’s death, and the Livonian Order decides to scrap the former links with the main Order. Even if the remaining Teutonic Order in the Empire, the Papacy and the Holy Roman Empire will keep on claiming their legitimate rights over Prussia and the Teutonic possessions there, all of these are now owned by the new Prussian Duchy.

King Manfred I appoints Rudolf von Teppe as count of Marienburg, with the mission of ruling the Prussian Duchy in his absence. Shortly after, it is revealed that Jadwiga is pregnant. Prince Manfred, son of Manfred I and Jadwiga is born on January 15th 1389.
While some stability and good hopes return to the united Crown of Poland, Prussia and Samogitia, the Livonian Order is shaken by internal disputes between diverse factions; some Knights wants the Livonian Order to be reunited with the Teutonic Order while others want it to be secularized, joining the Polish-Samogitian Order.
The Livonian Master, Robin von Eltz, tries to impose a compromise, keeping the Livonian Order independent but without secularizing it. However, he fails to impose it and the Order is largely divided into two confronted factions: the religious and the secular.
King Manfred I intervenes, letting the Knights that wanted to withdraw their vows to join the Polish-Samogitian Order. However, these Knights claim land rights in Livonia and refuse to move to Prussia or Samogitia. The anarchy erupts inside the Order and Robin von Eltz dies in suspicious circumstances.
Considering the worrying situation, the Polish troops and the Samogitian Order take the fortress of Grobin in April 1389. King Manfred I declares that the legitimate Livonian Order is extinguished after the death of Robin von Eltz. The religious faction flees to Dorpat, seeking for the bishop’s protection.



See of the Bishopric of Dorpat (Tartu)


One of the Livonian Knights, Michael von Hayden, is appointed as duchy of Livland and Courland by King Manfred I, enraging the Papacy, which claims the land to be restored to the legitimate Teutonic Order. The Danes claim Estonia back, as the Danish Kingdom considers that their original owners no longer exist, while Lithuania is allowed by King Manfred I to invade Lettgallia.
Despite the external threats, King Manfred enforces the changes and accepts Livland-Courland as a vassal duchy of his Crown, where former Livonian Knights can claim land rights and join the Polish-Samogitian Order if they want. He also recognizes the Lithuanian sovereignty over Lettgallia, thus reinforcing the alliance with the Grand Duchy; and finally he signs a Treaty with Denmark in May 1390, recognizing the return of Estonia to Danish rule. This will be a good start for the newborn alliance with Denmark, trying to counter-balance the power of Sweden in the Baltic Sea.

Now, the rest of Livonian Knights shelter in Dorpat, but King Manfred does not want to tolerate this situation for a long time.
 
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