Alternate Electoral Maps

[Turquoise Blue]

Chaos: A Third-Party America
United States presidential election of 1848

Fmr. Pres. Martin van Buren/Fmr. Sen. Charles F. Adams (Free Soil) 126 EV
Sen. Lewis Cass/Fmr. Rep. William O. Butler (Democratic) 118 EV
Gen. Zachary Taylor/Fmr. Rep. Millard Fillmore (Whig) 46 EV

After the Libertarians collapsed due to a plot between the Dems and Whigs to bring it down, the two-party system seemed to return...

Then Former President Martin van Buren lost his chance at a third term when the Democrats went for Cass. Angry and bitter, he took his delegates and left the Convention, establishing the Free Soil Party. The Dems and Whigs knew that van Buren would win, so they made a secret deal that if the election went to the House, the Whigs would endorse the Democrat nomination.

And so it did. The incumbent President, James G. Birney, was unhappy at this, but due to the military threatening to take over in a coup, he agreed to pass power to the Democrat, Lewis Cass, on Inauguration Day.

Martin van Buren won a second term thanks to the Dems and Whigs working together, and he lost his third term, thanks to the same.

[Abhakhazia]

Blue- New Jersey was a fairly solid, conservative Democratic state into the 20th century. And the Liberties winning NJ in 1840 only 14 years after slavery was abolished there is unlikely.

[Turquoise Blue]

Originally Posted by Abhakhazia

Blue- New Jersey was a fairly solid, conservative Democratic state into the 20th century. And the Liberties winning NJ in 1840 only 14 years after slavery was abolished there is unlikely.

They came third, so they get it. The description is just that, a story I made around the results of giving the third place winner, the state.

[TheSevenLeggedFallyDowner]

A map of the 1968 election if George Wallace wins every state where he was within 10 points in OTL. Nixon still wins, but just barely. Also, depending on who he draws his votes from, Nixon may have lost the popular vote.

Former Vice President Richard Nixon / Governor Spiro Agnew 270
Vice President Hubert Humphrey / Senator Edmund Muskie 191
Former Governor George Wallace / Retired General Curtis LeMay 77

[MrHuman]

Hey d32123, what happened to your series? I would be really interested in seeing your Tipping the Scales TL, by the way, but if you've decided not to do that...

[lord caedus]

From a future where the Wyoming Rule is followed and the radicalism of the GOP's rightward shift causes a backlash:

2016 presidential election
Andrew Cuomo/Loretta Sanchez (Democrat): 44.1% PV, 396 EV
Paul Ryan/Allen West (Republican): 31.6% PV, 214 EV
Jon Huntsman/Charles Djou (Progressive Republican): 24.0% PV, 38 EV

[MrHuman]

Some quibbles involving your moderate ticket, LC. (1) Why WV? (2) Jon Huntsman isn't a moderate, but he is closer than a lot of other Republicans, so that's fine. (3) Cao is a liberal Republican, but he was born in Vietnam to Vietnamese parents, so he isn't eligible.

[Crayhistory]

Thomas Dewey takes 3 states in which OTL he lost by 1%, those states being: Illinois, California, and Ohio.

Thurmond doesn't run and I give his states to Truman.

The result is Dewey barely winning the election.

Dewey - 267
Truman - 264

[lord caedus]

Originally Posted by MrHuman

Some quibbles involving your moderate ticket, LC. (1) Why WV? (2) Jon Huntsman isn't a moderate, but he is closer than a lot of other Republicans, so that's fine. (3) Cao is a liberal Republican, but he was born in Vietnam to Vietnamese parents, so he isn't eligible.

1- The Ryan/West ticket's strong anti-union platform and words caused blue-collar workers there to look elsewhere, and the bare plurality decided Huntsman would be a better POTUS than that New Yorker Cuomo.

2- Remember, this is in the America where a moderate-liberal is considered a far-left socialist and Allen West (who regularly channels Joe McCarthy and was forced to retire from the military for his conduct in Iraq) is considered a strong pick for the VP spot by one of the two major parties.

3- D'oh! Guess I'm replacing him with another moderate Republican who happens to have a darker shade of skin than milk-white Jon Huntsman.

[d32123]

Originally Posted by MrHuman

Hey d32123, what happened to your series? I would be really interested in seeing your Tipping the Scales TL, by the way, but if you've decided not to do that...

School got in the way. I'll post the rest of the series soon enough. I may still do Tipping the Scales, but I'd have to start it before the election so that I'm allowed to post it in Future History.

[Crayhistory]

Dewey World

1952 Presidential Election

Following my last map, Korea still happens but differently, and China still falls, but Dewey and the Republicans can paint it better for them. Still, the Democrats are able to do better than last election, and better than OTL for sure. McCarthy doesn't rise in infamy. Soviet tension still almost cause Dewey his re-election.

President Thomas Dewey (R) - 266
Governor Adlai Stevenson II (D) - 265

[Turquoise Blue]

Timeline-1928

In a world where Smith manages to flip many states, due to the GOP splitting due to Coolidge and Hoover falling out, and Hoover unofficially endorsing an Independent Republican ticket. The Democrat, Alfred E. Smith, wins the presidency. Then the Depression happens...


Al Smith/Joseph Taylor Robinson (Democratic) 343 EV
Calvin Coolidge/Charles Curtis (Republican) 188 EV
Alf Landon/??????? (Independent Republican) 0 EV

[Turquoise Blue]

Timeline-1928

Smith screws up the Depression worse then Hoover, and Hoover, running on his "New Deal" manages to win the election. The GOP, after the 1928 fiasco, saw the Depression, and saw that Hoover, by sabotaging their chances of victory, saved them from humiliating defeat. So they nominated him and former Independent Republican, Alf Landon, for president and vice president in 1932. The result was a humiliating defeat for the Democrats, and ultimately the first step to their end.

Herbert Hoover/Alf Landon (Republican) 495 EV
Al Smith/Joseph Taylor Robinson (Democratic) 36 EV

[Turquoise Blue]

Timeline-1928

The 1936 election was another step to the death of the Democratic Party, as the GOP made more inroads in the South, and a insurgent "Progressive" Party started by Franklin Roosevelt had some major successes in the North, and Share our Wealth won Louisiana. The Dems found themselves in fourth place, and not liking it... In this election, the Dems nominated Wendell Willkie, despite FDR's hard campaigning for the nomination. FDR then went off and created the Progressive Party, along with a lot of progressive Democrats, and Huey Long ran on his own "Share our Weath" party. The Democratic Party was now really just the south...


Herbert Hoover/Alf Landon (Republican) 468 EV
Franklin D. Roosevelt/Henry A. Wallace (Progressive) 44 EV
Huey Long/Charles Coughlin (Share our Wealth) 10 EV
Wendell Willkie/Alben W. Barkley (Democratic) 9 EV

[LendleAlba]

In honor of George McGovern, a map showing what would have happened if he'd won every state where he lost by 20% or less in '72:



He still loses (248 electoral votes), but it's not the utter asskicking he got OTL.

[MrHuman]

Norman Thomas really didn't like Long. I don't see him as Long's running mate.

[Turquoise Blue]

Originally Posted by MrHuman

Norman Thomas really didn't like Long. I don't see him as Long's running mate.

Good point. The other option was Garner, but I don't think that wouldn't work. Any suggestions? And do you like Timeline-1928?

[MrHuman]

Originally Posted by Turquoise Blue

Good point. The other option was Garner, but I don't think that wouldn't work. Any suggestions? And do you like Timeline-1928?

Oh, yeah, I like it. I just think this one minor thing doesn't really work. Garner? You're probably right. Um, maybe he just has Coughlin himself. Coughlin was massively popular, so I could see that. But if someone has another plausible suggestion, go with that.

[Archangel Michael]

Herbert Hoover ain't fixing no Depression.

[Turquoise Blue]

Originally Posted by Archangel Michael

Herbert Hoover ain't fixing no Depression.

He could. All you need is him to be not in the White House when the Depression strikes, and he'll get the clue that massive public works, more expense then OTL, is needed. Basically, if you put FDR in Hoover's spot, he'll do the same, which is panic. Probably better at charisma though.