The Eugenics Wars-A Brief History

[JSmith]

Originally Posted by JjeeporCreepor

Excerpt from Interrogations: The Imprisoned Elite of the Great Khanate Speak by Dr Connor Kilbride, London, 2020:

Awesome post Now what about part 2 with Jonsson,Rodriguez,Ling,Pallas etc etc

[JjeeporCreepor]

Originally Posted by Garrison

So a bit of an Albert Speer character

That's basically the idea, and like Speer perhaps some of his assertions (I'm thinking maybe the soapy gossip about Khan/Mueller and McPherson/the Cooke Sisters) should be taken with a pinch of salt. Men talking for their lives are likely to say the funniest things.

[Garrison]

FOOTPRINTS ON FOREIGN SHORES


PUBLISHED IN NEW FRONTIERS MAGAZINE 1987


PART XII: SUN GOD 1982-87


On the 30th of June this year the DYYX-01 ignited its main engine and left Earth orbit. That first flight was simply a lunar flyby and yet five years before when the brand new NASA began to outline its vision for the 80’s and 90’s such a vessel wasn’t even imagined. In this the last of our series commemorating the twentieth anniversary of the first moon landing we bring ourselves right up to date with the story of that dramatic and traumatic five years.
Practically the first thing the new NASA did after formally assuming the role as the primary US space agency was to dust off the very same plan that its predecessor had put forward; specifically the creation of a new orbiting laboratory. The problem was of course that NASA couldn’t simply be seen to pick up where USSA had left off; they needed to put their own stamp on the concept. One thing immediately offered itself up, which was to drop the use of the former Mars ship Endeavour suggested in the original USSA plan.
Almost unnoticed in the political upheavals in the US program and the media blitz surrounding White Knight the Opportunity orbiter and the Clipper launch configuration had been cleared to resume flights in December of 1981. Almost as its last act USSA scheduled a flight for February of 1982 to test the new systems and rendezvous with Endeavour to conduct a full inspection.
The flight actually took place in March with a three man crew aboard. Launch and docking went smoothly and the astronauts kept up a cheery dialogues with ground control during the six day flight and sent back plenty of video that was large ignored by the news media. This was probably just as well considering that the report the OL-12 crew filed on their return was anything but optimistic.
The summary of the report made it clear that systems aboard Endeavour had deteriorated far faster than even the most pessimistic projections. Electronics had been badly degraded by cosmic rays, the solar arrays and communications antennae were going to have to be completely replaced to make her usable and there were innumerable corroded seals and leaking pipes that needed major work. The best estimate was that it would require two Columbus launches to orbit all the material needed and as many as eight Clipper flights to carry out the work.
A question that arises from this is why after receiving this report did NASA still push for the inclusion of Endeavour in the proposed joint US-Soviet moon mission? Since most of those involved in the decision making are still at NASA a definitive answer is hard to come by but the best guess is that they were hoping they could get away with a much more basic refit for what was regarded as a publicity stunt and put more of their limited budget into the International Orbital Laboratory.
The ‘international’ in IOL was the other major change that NASA brought to the space station proposal. From a political point of view the international dimensional appealed to President Kennedy who wanted to strengthen relations with US allies. From NASA’s perspective it would allow the station to be built sooner and with less strain on their budget as the partner nations paid their way by providing modules while NASA focused on literally doing the heavy lifting using Columbus for the big payloads and contracting White Knight for most of the smaller ones. Primary manned operations would be mounted using Opportunity and Phoenix, completion of the latter having finally been rubber stamped by Congress and the Kennedy administration.
NASA also began outlining a longer term strategy involving a new Moonlab once the IOL had proven successful. This would be followed by a new surface base carrying out scientific studies and developing techniques to use lunar resources to reduce dependence on terrestrial supplies. This would of course be a proving ground for NASA’s ultimate goal; a successful mars landing by the year 2000.
Even before it could be formally put forward the proposal attracted critics who saw it as lacking in ambition and far too slow, ‘We’re going to spend twenty years and tens of billions of dollars just to go back to 1980’ as one Congressman put it. A major battle seemed in the offing, then on December 5th 1982 a wholly different fight broke out.
In parallel with White Knight program Dyson Aerodyne was working a new heavy lift vehicle. With a maximum projected payload in the fifty tonne range the news system tentatively christened ‘Apollo’ would have a relatively conventional layout but aimed to make all the stages reusable and thus while being smaller than the Columbus configuration developed for Ares it would be far cheaper to operate. In concert with White Knight this would be a complete new system to support future orbital and deep space programs.
That at least was the line that Dyson Aerodyne put when they announced Apollo in 1976 but it was of course simply the latest in a series of cover stories used to explain away where a large amount of money and company resources were going. The reality was that William Dyson and his company had never accepted the embargo imposed on nuclear propulsion in the aftermath of Zenith.
To what degree government agencies colluded in DA’s plans is still open to debate but the fact that they were able to maintain an on-going nuclear propulsion research program that went back practically to the day that NERO was cancelled speaks volumes in itself. NERO though would serve only as a starting point for the companies work; in some ways the long decade of the embargo forced them to be more creative and to work through their ideas without the pressure to produce results.
The practical result of all this secret work (and as the sketchiness of the above description suggests much of it is still secret) was called ANUPRE(Advanced Nuclear Plasma Rocket Engine). It worked by igniting a stream of fuel pellets to create a high energy plasma focused by a magnetic field; a form of nuclear ‘pulse jet’ in effect. By December 1982 DA had all the tests they could on the ground and the only logical thing to do was a full flight test; and why risk having anyone getting in the way by telling them about it in advance?
Thus on December 5th 1982 the Apollo launcher took off and as it left the pad a message was sent to NORAD informing them that they might pick up a sudden surge of radiation within the next few minutes at an altitude of about 100km. The message was still being processed when the second stage detached and ignited the ANUPRE prototype; which the relief and jubilation of the launch crew performed flawlessly to ascend into an orbit over a thousand miles above the Earth.
Jubilation was definitely not amongst the reactions of the US authorities. The first response was to have everyone involved arrested; until it was pointed out that all the regulations and embargoes on nuclear propulsion were only applicable to government agencies. Dyson Aerodyne had broken no laws in carrying out the launch thanks to this very convenient ‘oversight’ in the regulations. Of course that was hardly the end of the legal threats as several anti-nuclear groups lobbied hard for new legislation to be pushed through to eliminate the loopholes that Dyson Aerodyne had exploited. To the surprise of many in the media these efforts never got out of congress as the various bills were shot down; albeit by narrow margins.
The international response was every bit as confused. The USSR, China, and India all strongly condemned the test. On the other hand the United Kingdom, France, and Japan came out in favour. The Japanese response seemed strange but they had a long standing interest in the peaceful application of nuclear energy; and of course Dyson Aerodyne was already involved in negotiations with Yokoyama-Yasuda Orbital Industries over joint ventures.
It was the fact that the major partners in the IOL were on the pro side that swung the Kennedy administration behind the idea of letting DA go ahead with its plans to deploy ANUPRE in a working vehicle, though hardly with any great enthusiasm and it certainly made the 1984 presidential election closer than it might have been.
The rest as they say is history; the first modules for the IOL were launched last year with the first crew expected to take up residence in the spring of 1988. The DYYX-01 has begun a series of test flights and even as those are underway Dyson Aerodyne is already proposing a more advanced design incorporating technology derived from cutting edge physics. Tentatively called the DYY-50 it’s expected that this ship will be operational by 1991 and that new missions to the Moon and to Mars will take place soon after that.
Of course if there’s one thing the history of the twenty years since that first moon landing has taught us it’s that there are almost certainly some unpredictable setbacks waiting to trip us up along the way. It has however also taught us that as long as people have the will and the vision we will overcome them. Hopefully when the 30th anniversary rolls round in 1997 we will have a whole new era of achievements to write about.

[Garrison]

This one is a little lighter on detail because it deals what are relative to the article current events so it has to be a bit more circumspect about offending people and of course a lot of info is still commercially confidential or actually classified. Sadly of course the big 'setback' is the EW itself which derails all the major plans.

[JSmith]

Garrison and Jjeeporcreepor have done such a good job presenting us with the more advanced space race of the more technologically advanced Star Trek ATL it has me thinking what other more advanced technolgy has gone into the larger society and how much earlier? I alluded to the internet being a going concern by the early 90's in a post but what else ?

[JjeeporCreepor]

Originally Posted by Garrison

Hopefully when the 30th anniversary rolls round in 1997 we will have a whole new era of achievements to write about.

And they will indeed, although most of them won't be the kind of thing anybody feels good about...and the biggest of them all officially never happened...

Very good conclusion to the saga, I thought, and sets the stage for the much more advanced spaceflight that's going to be the rule in the post Eugenics Wars era.

[Garrison]

The DY-100 Program Past and Future:

AN INTERVIEW WITH PROJECT MANAGER HAMILTON BOND


DISCOVERY MAGAZINE AUGUST 1997



Hamilton Bond has been in charge of the DY program since its inception in the late 80’s; overseeing the construction of the DY-50 and the development of the intended production series the DY-100. A few weeks ago he took a couple of hours out of his busy schedule to answer questions about the fate of the first prototype and the plans for its replacements.

Interviewer: I suppose the first question that everyone will want the answer to is; do you know exactly what happened to the prototype in Australia?


Hamilton Bond: Well I’ve certainly been asked it often enough, by everyone from high school students to members of Congress. In the middle of a war a certain amount of confusion is hardly surprising but we have established enough of the facts to satisfy ourselves it was destroyed.


I: Can you expand on that?


HB: Well to start with we did confirm that the DY-100 was moved from the R&D facility where it was being worked on. It’s ironic that we chose Australia to base the work in because we thought it was out of the line of fire so to speak.


I: A lot of people will see your admission that it was relocated as support for some of the more outlandish theories about the prototype.


HB: Which is why I don’t have a lot of time for the conspiracy theorists. Moving the prototype was simply a matter of common sense.


I: How so?


HB: Well after Shining Condor Khan must have been pretty clear that the Democratic Alliance wasn’t going to leave any advanced space technology in the hands of Khan. If they had tried to work on the DY-100 without relocating it the Alliance would have destroyed it in a week.


I: But you are sure it was destroyed in the end?


HB: There were two sites where the ship could have been worked on, and both were on the receiving end of KEW strikes near the end of the war. That rather explains why there wasn’t much in the way of wreckage found.


I: So you are convinced the Khanate never made it operational?


HB: It’s a pure fantasy; and that’s being polite compared to what some of the engineers on the program have to say on the subject. Frankly I think some of them would have preferred to see it launched than just reduced to scrap but it just didn’t happen.


I: Obviously it was a huge setback but you have recovered from it with two DY-100’s under construction?


HB: The Tranquillity will be ready in six months and Utopia should be completed about a year after that, allowing for incorporating any changes we make after testing with Tranquillity.


I: So the Tranquillity will be dedicated to lunar operations and Utopia to Mars. Why not have two general purpose ships?


HB: Well we would love to do that but even with state of the art it would be incredibly difficult. A Mars ship is going to need far more fuel and life support than a lunar ship, not to mention better radiation shielding and more redundancy in systems. We can configure a dedicated lunar ship for large cargoes and crew complements for a rapid build-up of a lunar base; as well as facilities at the Lagrange points.


I: But so far NASA hasn’t committed to anything more than a couple of short duration trips to Mars. How confident are you that these plans will go ahead?


HB: We aren’t looking to NASA as the only potential customer for these missions. There are other friendly nations, corporations, universities and even private individuals all interested in exploiting the opportunities that the Tranquillity and Utopia will offer. There are entire new technologies that are suited to operating in space and the possibility of exotic minerals to be found on the moon with unique properties. We have no doubt that Mars will be every bit as scientifically and economically valuable.


I: And when do you expect to get there?


HB: Mars? Probably 2000. The moon on the other hand; we’re expecting to start scouting out the best locations for a base by spring of next year. We already have some exciting partnerships lined up for that.


I: I don’t suppose you can give us any names?


HB: Not today but I don’t think you’ll have to wait too long to find out.


I: We’ll certainly be looking forward to it, and I think I speak for everyone when I wish you the best of luck.

[jetpack]

Originally Posted by JSmith

Garrison and Jjeeporcreepor have done such a good job presenting us with the more advanced space race of the more technologically advanced Star Trek ATL it has me thinking what other more advanced technolgy has gone into the larger society and how much earlier? I alluded to the internet being a going concern by the early 90's in a post but what else ?

Can you point out the post? Was it one of the Chronowerks ones? I was thinking it would feel more like old-school sci-fi if computers were not as advanced as OTL. But I didn't have the time to look through the whole Short History to see what's been established.

[MerryPrankster]

I wonder what this guy would think if he saw Khan/McGivers?

She betrayed him and yet he allowed her to accompany him into exile (calling her "a superior woman" even). According to some of the supplementary material, he killed Augments who objected to her presence, adopted the young Joachim as his successor when McGivers could not bear him an heir (instead of banging some Augment woman), and when she was killed in a botched attempt on his life, he threw the ringleader into a hot spring and watched him scald alive. And Khan's death ride against Kirk was driven by his desire to avenge her.

("As you left me...as you left her...")

Hardly the actions of a man who has no friends, only rivals or servants.

[MerryPrankster]

That being said, I did like the update on the sordid inner workings of the Khanate, especially the implied reason why Khan's entourage aboard the Botany Bay are all white and he's not--they're the ones who had no powerbases of their own (like Minsei in China) and whose only option was to attach themselves to Khan and as the Khanate crumbled, follow him wherever he went.

I wonder what happened to Khan's kids with his various mistresses?

Maybe like his namesake, he had tens of millions of descendants a few centuries hence.

Oh boy. I just had a really hilariously bad idea...given the theory earlier that some Augments escaped from isolation during the ORE/ECON war, I wonder if some of the TOS crew may have been his descendants?

Maybe even KIRK?

[lukedalton]

Originally Posted by MerryPrankster

I wonder what this guy would think if he saw Khan/McGivers?

She betrayed him and yet he allowed her to accompany him into exile (calling her "a superior woman" even). According to some of the supplementary material, he killed Augments who objected to her presence, adopted the young Joachim as his successor when McGivers could not bear him an heir (instead of banging some Augment woman), and when she was killed in a botched attempt on his life, he threw the ringleader into a hot spring and watched him scald alive. And Khan's death ride against Kirk was driven by his desire to avenge her.

("As you left me...as you left her...")

Hardly the actions of a man who has no friends, only rivals or servants.

McGivers is a 'special case' in a 'special situation'. The Khan in Alpha Centauri is a man who must tame a savage world with a crew of 'relatively' trusted people, not conquer a modern civilization with a bunch of Napoleon...basically he is in a more relaxed position, plus the fact that McGivers give up her position in the Enterprise and his place in a civilization with a quality of life incredible (for Khan and co.) just to be with him, well did certainily impress him to say the least, plus she earned the respect of the other augment. Basically McGivers was the only woman with he really put down his guard and relaxed, his only true love and even monster have someone special for whom they care.

[Garrison]

Originally Posted by MerryPrankster

I wonder what this guy would think if he saw Khan/McGivers?

She betrayed him and yet he allowed her to accompany him into exile (calling her "a superior woman" even). According to some of the supplementary material, he killed Augments who objected to her presence, adopted the young Joachim as his successor when McGivers could not bear him an heir (instead of banging some Augment woman), and when she was killed in a botched attempt on his life, he threw the ringleader into a hot spring and watched him scald alive. And Khan's death ride against Kirk was driven by his desire to avenge her.

("As you left me...as you left her...")

Hardly the actions of a man who has no friends, only rivals or servants.

Well it was one person's view, perhaps coloured to fit what his interrogators wanted to hear. I suspect we would get a very different view if Marla McGivers had left behind a diary. One of the strength's of this thread is that we don't get any magical insights into what people are thinking. It's a record of historical documents open to interpretation with the same kind of gaps and limitations that real history has.

[MerryPrankster]

McGivers' diary? Oh boy.

What are they going to call it? 50 Shades of Red(shirt)?

[JSmith]

Originally Posted by jetpack

Can you point out the post? Was it one of the Chronowerks ones? I was thinking it would feel more like old-school sci-fi if computers were not as advanced as OTL. But I didn't have the time to look through the whole Short History to see what's been established.

It was actually nothing that specific. On page 4 in the post about Mueller killing Weiss I refer to an electronic mail that was sent to the German government about Weiss' death. Maybe things dont look as advanced but I'd suspect that in the ATL they are farther ahead of us-at least by 10-20 years. So VCRs in the 60's, CD's and PC's in the 70's,internet and cell phones in the 80's and dvds and ipods in the 90's?

[MerryPrankster]

This thread just made my blog.

http://accordingtoquinn.blogspot.com...line-with.html

Prepare for your fifteen minutes of fame.

[JSmith]

Originally Posted by MerryPrankster

This thread just made my blog.

http://accordingtoquinn.blogspot.com...line-with.html

Prepare for your fifteen minutes of fame.

Well thank you! Now if we could just get more people to post.

[MerryPrankster]

Originally Posted by JSmith

Well thank you! Now if we could just get more people to post.

I was considering writing a bit inspired by Archer's great-grandfather's parley with the Augment commander, but it turns out that was already done in an ST anthology.

[JSmith]

Originally Posted by MerryPrankster

I was considering writing a bit inspired by Archer's great-grandfather's parley with the Augment commander, but it turns out that was already done in an ST anthology.

I have read it but dont let that stop you. You could do something about something that happened to him before or after that for example.

[lukedalton]

Originally Posted by JSmith

It was actually nothing that specific. On page 4 in the post about Mueller killing Weiss I refer to an electronic mail that was sent to the German government about Weiss' death. Maybe things dont look as advanced but I'd suspect that in the ATL they are farther ahead of us-at least by 10-20 years. So VCRs in the 60's, CD's and PC's in the 70's,internet and cell phones in the 80's and dvds and ipods in the 90's?

Probably is a mix, sure the space program is way beyond OTL, and we had stated that medicine is somewhat a little advanced than our, but except that i don't think is much more advanced, even because the military will have a lot of R & D money and with the various Brush war, a worse Cold war and the Eugenetics war and the aftermath, the military will keep their toys more closer, think like the GPS will be military only for more, (DY will probabably try to put a commercial one, but it will be blocked due to security reason...and even them must bow at their biggest costumer) and even if more developed the consumer goods market will be less developed than our due to India and China being hostile nation first and recover from the war later.
One think that i see developed more is alternative and nuclear energy; due to the cold war being worse and the arab nation more problematic, many nation will want to be less dependent by oil, but even in this case i see 5/6 year more due even to better material tecnology (for space travel)

[MerryPrankster]

Originally Posted by JSmith

I have read it but dont let that stop you. You could do something about something that happened to him before or after that for example.

What happened in the story? All I know is there's a reference to an officer named "Green" in it.