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Old October 13th, 2012, 11:55 PM
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Is there ever a needed rape?
In terms of the plot if it furthered character development or was important to the story, it almost never is in ASOIAF
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Hey! I like GRRM's books...

And I'd also really love to see this continue.
As to I, but he is not the Modern day Tolkien that some of his fans seem to think he is.
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Old October 14th, 2012, 01:38 AM
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Ayn seems to have thought so!
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Old October 14th, 2012, 02:48 AM
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Old October 14th, 2012, 11:12 PM
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Old October 15th, 2012, 05:58 AM
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By the way, Linkwerk, did you get my PM?
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Old October 15th, 2012, 04:22 PM
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By the way, Linkwerk, did you get my PM?
I did! In short, it sounds like a brilliant idea. I'll PM you when I can with more details


My apologies to the readership, but the last month and a half has been an incredibly hectic time for me- a transcontinental move, numerous financial aid hiccups which left me couch-surfing for two weeks, an apartment hunt, and the official beginning of my thesis-writing saga.


That said, Katanga's strange and sad story is nowhere near over. I want to start putting out segments soon, but as a warning to my readership: I'm going back to the non-linear storytelling style. I tried to grind through the period leading up to and and during the Transitional Reconciliation Agreement which essentially founds Objectivist Katanga, but I found myself hung up on the "need" to write long paragraphs of Dag Hammarskjold talking about foreign policy in chronological order with Lumumba's desperate flight to freedom and Rand's backroom scheming and Tshombe's slow and horrifying realization that he's not calling the shots anymore.

There were a lot of Tales from Objectivist Katanga that weren't getting written as I held myself to a certain structure- the handshake that would change Malcom Little's life, the patio-side scotch with Ian Smith that would make Alan Greenspan take a turn at gentleman farming, two iron-willed girls from the Shtetl butting heads years later in a Tel Aviv kitchen, and the short, tawdry, groundbreaking career of Kenneth Anger in Africa.


So from now on, I'm just gonna write them as they come, and let you, the reader, figure out what the hell is happening.
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Old October 15th, 2012, 05:26 PM
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How is Katanga's stance on imports from abroad?

WARNING! SPOILERS AHEAD!
In Bioshock, Andrew Ryan cracks down harshly on imports from the surface, as a means of getting rid off anything from the "parasites". Given that Katanga might become the pariah among the international community, I could see Katanga ending up doing the same. You sort of implied it already with the creation of cigarettes containing crystal. Besides, Katanga will have to feed itself, so they need some sort of agriculture anyway.
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Old October 15th, 2012, 06:55 PM
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So from now on, I'm just gonna write them as they come, and let you, the reader, figure out what the hell is happening.
I don't mind a non-chronological format at all. I like the vignettes, very much. Maybe down the road you could construct a chronology. I'm just happy there is promised life to this TL!
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Old October 15th, 2012, 07:37 PM
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I don't mind a non-chronological format at all. I like the vignettes, very much. Maybe down the road you could construct a chronology. I'm just happy there is promised life to this TL!
Same here.
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Old October 16th, 2012, 05:43 PM
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Linkwerk, did you happen to see my Steve Ditko comment saying he was an Objectivist? You don't necessarily have to send him to the Congo (to possibly set up the comic book industry in that nation and create various Objectivist comic heroes and villains and series like a "Rand Lee"), but he could be someone interesting to look into as someone to mention offhand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJqXPozfnWQ
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Old October 17th, 2012, 05:26 AM
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Just breezed throught this in one night, and I gotta say I can't wait to see what you do next!

For one, I like how you really have no good guys in Congo - you have Che "the Butcher" Guevara leading a Red Revolution, Ayn Rand and the Objectivists forming the Congo Free State 2: Electric Boogaloo, The UN, Rhodesia and verious other radicals all taking thier own sides and swipes, all on top of a part of Africa where a war that kills 5 million people is a frightningly common occurance.

Plus, a 70s where AIDS and Scientology lead to an early discrediting of the hippie counterculture!

That said, a few ideas:

I am a Libertarian, and I've always looked at Objectivism the same way a Social Democrat might look at Communism - it's the very extreme end of an ideology that when implemented usually leads to horrible things because of how human nature and society functions. So yeah, no suprise with Katanga.

As for the state of the US right wing, I'd wager, you'd see it stick to Goldwater paleoconservatism or Libertarianism.

Anyway great work, will follow! I hope you drag on Katanga as long as you can!
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Old October 25th, 2012, 01:04 AM
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I was gonna write an update about Mike Wallance interviewing Rand as part of a special on Katanga but....

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/32f...te-access-show


Kinda outdid that one.

Anyways- what do you want to see next?

1- Congo Cubano: Part 2

2- Der Atlasbunker

3- "I just flew in from Sweden and boy has my plane not crashed"
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Old October 25th, 2012, 01:15 AM
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Anyways- what do you want to see next?

1- Congo Cubano: Part 2

2- Der Atlasbunker

3- "I just flew in from Sweden and boy has my plane not crashed"
Definitely Der Atlasbunker. But perhaps a catchier name is in order? Like maybe "The Sanctum"? "The Prometheus Redoubt"? I dunno, but it's good to see you back in action Linkwerk!
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Old October 25th, 2012, 01:49 AM
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I was gonna write an update about Mike Wallance interviewing Rand as part of a special on Katanga but....

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/32f...te-access-show


Kinda outdid that one.

Anyways- what do you want to see next?

1- Congo Cubano: Part 2

2- Der Atlasbunker

3- "I just flew in from Sweden and boy has my plane not crashed"

So hard to choose! Probably #2 but I wish that it could be like ordering Chinese and I could choose 1 from column A and 2 from column B...
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Old October 25th, 2012, 06:18 AM
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I was gonna write an update about Mike Wallance interviewing Rand as part of a special on Katanga but....

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/32f...te-access-show


Kinda outdid that one.

Anyways- what do you want to see next?

1- Congo Cubano: Part 2

2- Der Atlasbunker

3- "I just flew in from Sweden and boy has my plane not crashed"

I think that no.2 would be the most interesting. It is hard to choose when all I know about each option is a teasing title. Could we have a little bit more info please (we really need a begging smilie). Also it is good to see that there still life left in this timeline, for a while I thought that it was dead for sure.
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Old October 25th, 2012, 09:36 AM
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2- Der Atlasbunker
Makes me imagine "The Downfall", only with Ayn Rand screaming at everybody...
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Old October 25th, 2012, 09:56 AM
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Go for the Altasbunker...i image in TTL there will be a movie about Katanga with Rand screaming at everybody and in the youtube equivalent thousand of version with strange subtitles
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Old October 25th, 2012, 11:13 AM
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Yay you are back, Linkwerk! I'm sorry you've had some issues. But I'm also glad that you seem to have sorted it out. I'm voting for the Atlasbunker, just to see Rand and Denard and Tank and co. squirm.
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Old October 25th, 2012, 11:33 AM
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Do the Atlasbunker, please. If only to see a Downfall parody with Ayn Rand in place of Hitler. (I'd pay good money to see that.)
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Old October 25th, 2012, 12:39 PM
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Der Atlasbunker sounds pretty neat, I must say!
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