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Old October 10th, 2012, 03:17 AM
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Old October 10th, 2012, 03:59 AM
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Better question why someone right mind try save skin come Nazis. In pratice after doe Jews other dislike group turn other. Best way one save skin fighting back making sure lots people hate still around or at least best way protect friends.
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Old October 10th, 2012, 04:13 AM
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As a disabled person with Italian,German,French,Polish and Russian blood with a grandfather who fought at Normandy, my ass is as good as dogmeat, so hiding in the wilderness seems to be the safest bet.
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Old October 10th, 2012, 05:23 AM
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Better question why someone right mind try save skin come Nazis. In pratice after doe Jews other dislike group turn other. Best way one save skin fighting back making sure lots people hate still around or at least best way protect friends.
You have a point; once the Jews/blacks/gypsies/disabled/whatever are gone they'll simply pick on some other non-Aryan group; a good Nazi always needs someone to point the finger at. It comes down to (a)fighting back, which probably leads to a messy death for you and your family, or (b)fleeing, which might or might not save you, and the life of a refugee will be no bed of roses, or (c)collaboration, which might save you if you could stomach it.

And a Japanese victory would be even worse; to them anyone not Japanese was inferior. If you survive, which is definitely not a given, you'll be no better than a serf; overworked, underfed, and routinely brutalized. And that's if you're male; if you're female add forced sex to the mix. If you fight back not only you and your family will be at risk, but your entire community as well.

To be fair not all Japanese will treat non-Japanese that way, but most will; it was simply the prevailing attitude at the time.
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Old October 10th, 2012, 05:32 AM
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I've noticed a lot of German members claiming they would try and leave Germany or join a resistance. Really though, is that you talking or hindsight?

I mean if your the picture perfect Aryan, and you live in a Nazi victory TL, your probably going to be the best Nazi you can be. It'll be the way your raised, and taught, you simply won't know any better.
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Old October 10th, 2012, 06:44 AM
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Now, barring the fact that I might not be born because of WWII...

I'm one half Greek and close to being half Irish. I honestly have no idea where that puts me since the Nazis were fine with Celts and before 1941, Berlin played on the whole "Ancient Spartan" thing. Does my family flee to America, to Egypt or even South Africa, to somewhere else?
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Old October 10th, 2012, 06:47 AM
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Under the Emperor's command.

Really, all my ancestors are Japanese, and assuming they take Hawaii, I'm fine.

Under Nazi Rule, I suppose I'm an Honorary Aryan, and should also be relatively fine.
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Old October 10th, 2012, 12:52 PM
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Keep in mind that they went with the somewhat common thing of having the mother claim that the Jewish man she married was not his father.
So am I safe?
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Old October 10th, 2012, 01:32 PM
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I'm 1/4 German and 3/4 Dutch, I think I'll do OK...
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Old October 10th, 2012, 02:33 PM
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So am I safe?
Depends if the father and all the other Jewish people in the area vanish and no body talks about them anymore.
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Old October 10th, 2012, 04:22 PM
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Depends if the father and all the other Jewish people in the area vanish and no body talks about them anymore.
Well, he died 2 years ago if that means anything.
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Old October 10th, 2012, 04:57 PM
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If the Nazis took over NZ I would be fine, due to being pretty solidly Anglo (and looking the part) right up until the Partisans started up, then, as a member of a large armed farming family, I'm sure someone I was related to would do something silly, if I hadn't already.

Of course if the Japanese got NZ, well, who knows?
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Old October 10th, 2012, 04:58 PM
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I`m half-Irish half-Russian. I look Russian (got dads skin tone) so I am eithier dead, in a partisan brigade in the Sperrin mountains or living as an eastern worker in Germany with a very short lifespan.
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Old October 10th, 2012, 08:41 PM
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Chinese, average build (maybe shorter due to malnutrition under a Japanese occupation).

I would probably die in the mountains of Guiyang among my fellow Chinese, we would lie with the current generation of Japanese teenagers in the giant hell called China. Or not born at all if one of my parents would be killed, I suppose if they managed to coerce me early enough I would be worked to death in a work camp.

Alternatively, if the present me is scripted into this scenario I would be a naturalized Canadian citizen enrolled in the RCN on the west coast.

If I lived under the Nazis: fuck. Camping in the forest, slavery ,death or some equally shitty fate.
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Old October 10th, 2012, 11:19 PM
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I`m half-Irish half-Russian. I look Russian (got dads skin tone) so I am eithier dead, in a partisan brigade in the Sperrin mountains or living as an eastern worker in Germany with a very short lifespan.
Some Russians were "Aryanizable", maybe you would get lucky.
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Old October 11th, 2012, 04:40 AM
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well I'm of both Anglo-Celtic and Croat descent, with a bit of Scandinavian in there somewhere. I would probably be okay. I'm 6 foot, with blue eyes, dirty blonde hair and quite a large build. I've got some fairly dinaric facial features though, but have a high iq so I'd be able to survive at least, if not honorary Aryan. But this assumes that the Germans don't turn on their Croat allies and continues the "Ostrogoths speaking a Slavic language" myth. I've always been of the opinion that the Germans would've exterminated Croats after the Serbs were disposed of. But that's just my opinion. On the other hand though, many of my family members were Partisans, so I might not get away with existing, although my grandfather was born in '42, so we'd probably be fairly brainwashed by then.

Hopefully I'd get into those breeding programs :P
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Old October 11th, 2012, 07:52 AM
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We all know what the Nazi's had planned for the Slavs, Jews, Gypsies etc. But what did they have in store for the Western Europeans both on a personal and national level. Is anything known? Did the Nazi's have some kind of roadmap for the future of Western Europe?
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Old October 11th, 2012, 09:11 AM
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We all know what the Nazi's had planned for the Slavs, Jews, Gypsies etc. But what did they have in store for the Western Europeans both on a personal and national level. Is anything known? Did the Nazi's have some kind of roadmap for the future of Western Europe?
I googled "Nazi opinion of Westerners"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Order_%28Nazism%29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_pr...United_Kingdom
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Old October 11th, 2012, 09:28 AM
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We all know what the Nazi's had planned for the Slavs, Jews, Gypsies etc. But what did they have in store for the Western Europeans both on a personal and national level. Is anything known? Did the Nazi's have some kind of roadmap for the future of Western Europe?
Make the monarchs and churches disappear, integrate them into the Reich at some point, and use hundreds of thousand or millions of Englishmen and Frenchmen as forced labour.
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Old October 11th, 2012, 09:41 AM
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Think I should be little bit more than OK. 100% English on both sides. And I was at Cambridge. So maybe head of a factory, civil service? Help as many as I could from the inside?
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