Land Of Confusion: The Wild Ride of the 2012 IRNA Presidential Election

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Originally Posted by Chipperback

And I am reading yours as well, Mr. Human..

Oh, wow, thanks! Really means a lot.

So what's going on in the RMR?

[Chipperback]

So what's going on in the RMR?

The have a very close campaign coming up. Ken Salazar is trying to hold his party together, but he's getting it from both sides, and nearly faced a leadership fight earlier this year within the National Democrats Party. Some in the NDP see him as a too soft to stand for RMR interest, the more liberal factions within the party see some of his economic policies as just a shade above the Conservatives or the Galtists.

The Conservatives are also split between the factions which have roots in the USA, and the Alberta Conservatives who have risen in power in the party. In the 1970s and 1980s the Albertans were largely their own party...Until Preston Manning led an initiative called "Unite The Right" which united the Alberta Conservatives and the Mountain Republican Party into a common Conservative Republican Party of the RMR. Stephen Harper won the party leadership in 2009, after a pitched battle with Stockwell Day, and Max Backus.

Some disaffected member of the Conservatives joined the growing Galtist Party in the Rockies. But the confusing leadership fight led to a surprise in 2011. Richard Lamm, Mountain Republican Prime Minister of the RMR from 1977 to resigning in 1989, made a comeback after his conversion to objectivist-libertarian thought in the late 90s. Richard Lamm's beliefs may have changed, but his shot-from-hip-demeanor hasn't.

But a wildcard factor from the left has emerged as well. The Mountain Socialists have long been a fringe party in the RMR, like many harder-left parties in this part of the North America. But the recent economic turmoil, and environmental issues have caught the eye of voters, especially those who live in areas influenced by tourism industry. Another factor is a population that is trending younger (35% of RMR citizen are under the age of 35), tend to be outdoorsy, active, and eclectic in many instances. Such voters have been turned cold by the slick politicking of the NDP, the moral harshness of the Conservatives...and the lack of social concern of the Galtist...not to mention who leads the Galtists. A man who more than a few people think is kind of negative..and really kind of loony.

That is where Ceal Barry comes in, the former mayor Boulder, Colorado is a Confederate defector from Kentucky. A longtime activist for environment, women's rights and gay rights, she has long been a strong voice from outside the political system. When the Mountain Socialists approached her to be their candidate for a seat in the Rocky Mountains Commons, she surprised them by saying yes...and ended up becoming their party leader and turning the MSP from a fringe campus party into a competitive alternative...an alternative that may do in the Rocky Mountains what the AUSQ did in Quebec.

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Subscribing to both of these awesome election threads. You're doing a great job, but I'd love to eventually learn more about the history of the Lone Star Republic (since I'm from Louisiana and would be living there), and the CSA.

Keep up the good work.

[Chipperback]

What about the Lone Star Republic of Texas would you like to know?

Louisiana threw in with Texas to avoid a takeover by the CSA. Huey Long and Sam Rayburn were both against joining the CSA. Long saw a CSA under someone like Strom Thurmond as prone to what broke the USA apart. Rayburn saw ambitions for Texas because of their oil wealth, land and potential industrialization.

By 1948, it looked like there would be a war that would make the German Civil War in Europe look like a picnic. The CSA was determined to bring Louisana and Texas to heel.

On January 1, 1948 Huey Long and Sam Rayburn joined forces. With the signing of the Shreveport Accords, the Lone Star Republic was born. Louisiana became a part of Texas, yet in exchange Louisiana is given a large amount of devolution within the system of Texas and is officially recognized as a "distinct society". The addition of Louisiana did a great deal to moderate Texas on a number of issues in the coming years, from racial policy, economic welfare and the relation to labor and capital. LSR Texas is more liberal to left-leaning as the Texas we know OTL, even as the nation is still just as prideful for being "Lone Star" and independent as the OTL, perhaps even more so.

In the 1950s Texas began to hit stride technologically. Rayburn and he government of oilmen, businessmen and technocrats, with the help of emigre who fled Nazi facism (such as Werner Van Braun, "Der Vater" if the North American Space Agency), and Russian Communism (a group of Soviet Russian nuclear scientist defected to Texas and in turn developed the Texas nuclear deterrent.)

After 4 terms as President, Rayburn retired in Lyndon Baines Johnson, a Senator won the Texas Democratic Party nomination for President, and then defeated Lone Star Party candidate John Connolly to Parish Radical Liberal Candidate John McKeithen for the Presidency of Texas.

The LBJ years were the next evolution for the LSR. A fledging firm called Texas Instruments created a computer in 1964 that was world's fastest. Texas Lear Corporation led the way and building a domestic aviation capacity. Another Lone Star with big dream, Carroll Shelby and a group of engineers formed Shelby Alamo Motors. LBJ was also agressive and bringing in foreign investment. North American Aviation began building planes as Texas as did Lockheed (who joined in a partnership with Texas Lear that formed the successful L-1011 LoneStar passenger airliner).

Since independence Texas has prided itself and defending itself. Every organ of Texas Law Enforcement, from county sheriffs to the legendary Texas Rangers in one way or another is a part of the Lone Star Republic's military. That grew in statures in 1950s as Texas stood shoulder to shoulder with the GPUR during the Confederate Invasion of 1957, with touched off the 1957-1960 Refugee War (as it called among Texans).

Texas forces performed with distinction during the 1963-1966 "Trade War" Texas air, naval and ground forces stood against Confederate aggression in Latin America and provided reinforcement to the California-Australia-Japanese allied effort against Communist China in Asia.

By 1966, Texas was beginning to be seen as a first run military power, and by 1968 Texas was full fledged member of the nuclear club.

The 1970s began to see diversified growth for Texas. Dallas and Houston became centers for oil, cattle, commodities, and banking. The Lone Star state was booming. But LBJ was ailing and choose not to run in 1974 election after three terms.

1974 was a rough year. Civil unrest in the middle east and Latin America led uncertainity in Europe and the Americas. Incoming Texas President Dolph Briscoe ran into a boom that went bust in 1975. Briscoe, instituted a group of austerity measures and a more isolationist foreign policy.

But that ran contra to the what some saw as the future of Texas. LBJ saw Texas as a nation that would be regionally strong, worldly respect by more neutral and keeping to itself.

But an ambitious former Texas Air Ranger had a gleam and a dream. He saw New Orleans, Dallas and Houston as world class cities. He saw Texas wielding world influence especially in the Middle East were he had cultivate more than 20 years relationships as a military man and a businessman.

He had strong allies in business, entertainment, art. Not bad for a kid who was born a New Englander blue blood, who family came to Texas seeking oil fortune.

Throughout 1976, he built his team, mixed with Austin-savvy insiders and the some of brightest minds born of go-go New Texas of the 1970s.

In 1978, the beleaguered Lone Star Conservatives had a champion. He boldly set a course.


"Our Lone Star shouldn't fade into the night sky, just dimly there. It should beam out strongly like a thousand points of light, all pointing to the direction of our proud land. This is the time for a new world order of peace and prosperity here in North America and shining throughout the world. It is now time for Texas to step to forefront. It is time." -- George Herbert Walker Bush, Lone Star Conservative Party Convention acceptance speech 1978.

Bush teamed with Vice Presidential candidate Edwin Edwards won 60% of the vote in a landslide victory, and the confidence of George Herbert Walker Bush saw investors who were fleeing Texas racing to bring capital back.

Texas began its march from regional power to being on short list of most powerful nations on earth in a generation. Industrially, Economically, Military, Diplomatically, Culturally. Texas when from Cattlemen to Culture. From Hicks with power, to Sophisticates With Muscle.

Bush moved quickly to build a regional bloc of interests. Bush used the 1980-1982 Border Conflict to shore up relations with the Great Plains. At the same time, Bush used shrewd diplomacy and policy to bring a once antagonistic Mexico into what become a power relationship in Central America. The Tex-Mex Economic Bloc.

Bush called his markers in the Middle East in 1981, and earned oil-rich, savvy Texas a seat in the one of most powerful clubs on Earth, Texas became a member of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC)

Was it any doubt Bush would re-elected in 1982. Only Margaret Thatcher got reelected in a bigger rout.

George Herbert Walker Bush's second term however was plagued by two scandals. One involved the nation's financial instutions in 1984. A son of the President, Neil was involved.

And there was a number of government officials, including education secretary Bill Clements, involved a wide-spread football-game fixing scandal the involved teams in the Texas Football Association and Texas College Football.

The twin scandals hurt the Bush Government, and made the 1986 elections a much tighter affair the Texas Democrats ran corruption-buster Charles Roemer, a former TDI agent who was Lousiana's state Governor. two new parties formed. The Independents for Godly Government a religious "back to basic party" put up Phil Gramm, and the the Rally For The Lone Star Republic, a concertation of leftist parties led by the former Parish Radical Liberals ran national railroad commissioner Jim Hightower as their standard bearer.

It was a tighter race, especially between Bush and the aggressive Roemer. Bush won 45% of the vote to carry the election and win a third term, but the President had already decided he wouldn't be a Sam Rayburn. He'd leave the office after 1990.

But the President already was grooming people for future power. His sons Jeb, and George W. were already set up in business. Jeb had also built up his chops in educational policy as comptroller for the Houston Public Schools. George W. was a part of the television committee for the Texas Football Association, learning under the wing of Lamar Hunt, considered one of the major forces in the growth of the continent's most lucrative sports entertainment in the post-Trade War period.

And he had develop a resource in a man who play a key role in fueling the Texas economic engine as a driving force behind a lot of development, a budding youngish financier named Sherwood Blount, who was grooming his own group of acolytes throughout his businesses, including buying the Dallas Cowboys in 1986 and rebuilding a proud team that had hit hard times. He also cultivated a small group of star players whom he would help turn into the titans of Texas business, finance, and society 20 years later...and another who would become a leader in a place of great interest to Austin.

After 1990, the opposition toppled old order in Austin, Charles "Buddy" Roemer became the first from Louisiana to be the President of the LSR, with Lloyd Bentsen as his running mate. The economic climate of Texas forced Roemer to govern in a centrist manor. Even with the electoral victory within Sam Houston House, the Texas National Legislature and the National Senate, was still under Lone Star Conservative control. Still the people liked Roemer and the business crowd could tolerate him.. He stayed two terms, but amid scandal within the House Bush built, came an electorate looking to the hard right...and the election of Clayton Williams as President under the IGG banner in 1998

Williams' four years were chaotic. Texas nearly find itself in a war with the GPUR over water rights. He threatened to bomb the IRNA. And he insulted women across the nation with his famous address to Dorothy Willis, "Look Dorothy, if rape is inevitable...sit back down an enjoy it."

Even with an economy and industry humming, Williams was a yokel embarrassment to a country trying to put a sophisticated face to the world. He was thrown out by the voters in 2002, as the eyes of Texas turned left to Mark White, a Baylor-educated reformer who defeated Houston's national senator James Baker, who openly ran against Bush years calling them, "an plastic era for Texas"

The "Baker Betrayal," as it was called, led to a split with the mainstream Conservatives in Texas. And it led to a fight for the party that got George H.W. Bush off the rocking chair and putting fishing, flying and skydiving on hold, to return to bare-knuckles politics...and to unleash the person he called, "Smartest person I ever employed in my three terms as President."

The 2006 battle for the conservative nomination saw the Bush and Baker forces meet a third force, led by a former operative for the IGG named Karl Rove. It was Rove who worked into the Bush camp and floated the idea of one of the Bush sons running for office of President. That is something the elder Bush didn't want. He knew his sons weren't groomed for leadership in politics, but groomed to be power behind politics. Instead President Bush wanted a different person...The former President wanted his top intelligence aid and former TISA director Condoleezza Rice-Hill to get the nod. The woman was Confederate-born. Her father, a theologian and her mother a mathematician who received a classical education in the underground secret schools of the Carolinas. They fled the CSA when Condi was a toddler.

The Rice University cell of the Underground Railroad got word of a brilliant mathematical mind in the Carolinas. They didn't get the memo that mind was in a black, female body. Until they had gotten to Houston.

Young Condoleezza grew up Texan, right down being a cheerleader in high school along with being a basketball, golf, and track champion. She even did her year in the Texas National Military, where she found her calling. She stayed in the Reserves through her college years at Rice as a military intelligence officer and a reserve combat pilot. When graduated from Rice she had earned an officers rank and entered into the regular services as an intelligence analyst.

In the next 15 years, Rice would turn heads in her job...and catch the eye of two rather important men.

The first was in 1980. She was a 26-year-old, but acted older and wiser Texas Intelligence operative. He was the first MVP of the Super Bowl, with a financial career gaining speed as his football career was winding down.

In 1981, Rice married Dallas financier and Cowboys halfback Calvin Hill. Four years later, they'd have their son Grant...now a veteran receiver for the Cowboys and a former Super Bowl MVP in his own right.

The second was President George Hebert Walker Bush who persuaded her to join his team in Austin in 1985 as an intelligence liaison. Her intelligence and insight made her a rising star, and more than a few political mavens in the Lone Star Conservatives began seeing the potential in this dynamo.

When President Bush left office, Rice left the military to teach in the foreign policy studies institute at Rice University. In 1994, another President, Buddy Roemer, tapped her for the job of rebuilding Texas's foreign intelligence establishment as director of the Texas International Security Agency. In less than three years, an underfunded, undermanned outfit, became one of the best intelligence operations in the world, rivaling the British, the Californians, the Soviet Russians, and the New Englanders.

Her disagreements with President Clayton Williams led to her dismissal in 2000, but she landed on her feet as CEO for Perot Systems, one of the world's leading private intelligence and security firms. The job also developed an political partnership with H. Ross Perot. (oh by the way, Perot was appointed head of TISA in 2010.)

In 2006, her name was floated for the nomination. The pro-Baker forces were against it. A Black woman as President of Texas??? Rove was against it for a different reason. He was looking for someone who could be a "face man" for a team behind the throne. The striking, smart, Rice-educated woman Bush leaned on in his final term was groomed for much more than being a face man.

White won reelection in 2006, but resigned due to health reasons in 2008. Vice President Jim Turner took over, but failed in his attempt to win the Texas Democratic nomination his own right for the 2010 elections, in favor of Louisianan John Breaux running with Houston Senator Ron Kirk.

The IGG ran John Cornyn, and Baker factions with in the Lone Star Conservatives wanted Kay Bailey Hutchinson.

But the Next Generation Bush team was ready. Moneymen like Michael Dell, Sherwood Blount, and Blount lieutenants like Eric Dickerson, Craig James and Lance McInhenny poured Texas Dollars into Condi Rice-Hill

She reached long-disaffected black voters who felt ignored in general by the process. She wowed the Dorothy Willis vote with her strength wrapped in feminine Texas charm. She was younger, smarter and better than her opponent in the party primary...and proved her metal outpointing all her general election opponents on the trail and in debates.

On election day, Condi put together an incredible win, 53% of Texas voters pulled the lever for Condoleezza Rice-Hill and Vice President Piyush "Bobby Ray" Jindal.



FAQ I see coming -- How bad was Hurricane Katrina?

The Bad News: Katrina hit harder ITTL. The recorded strength was 33% stronger than OTL Hurricane Katrina than IOTL.

The Good News: The Lone Star Republic was READY.

New Orleans is protected by a wall co-developed by engineers in the LSR and the Netherlands, and it was funded by an initiative started by Senator John McKeithen in 1969. The Lone Star Coastal Protection Act allocated continued funding to protect the Gulf Coast from the threat of Hurricanes.

It led to the creation of what is known as McKeithen's Moat. A system of barriers, levies and runoff points that stretch from New Orleans to Corpus Christi. The idea behind his a combination of Dutch-designed seawalls, engineered levys and artificial stream to prevent as much flooding as possible.

In Katrina, the system worked against the strongest Hurricane ever recorded, that plus immediate response before and after put the death tool at 25% of OTL Hurricane Katrina and damage was reduced to 20% of OTL Hurricane Katrina. There is was still a lot of clean up to be done, but for the most part New Orleans was recovering strongly within 6 months.

The same can't be said for the Gulf Coast of Mississippi, which still has areas in disarray, 7 years later.

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From our studios in Houston to the world, this is CNN.

In a statement earlier this evening, IRNA President Rudolph Giuliani confirmed that the USS Spiro Agnew aircraft carrier has been deployed to the IRNA's Atlantic Quarantine Zone.

Confederate Security Services troops are occupying the Confederate state of Arkansas tonight, at the request of that state's governor Mike Huckabee. Earlier Monday, Huckabee declared a state of emergency. President Newton Gingrich, speaking from Atlanta, said "The Confederate people shall not be held hostage by heathen malcontents and unwashed subversives among our young people."

In Soviet Russia, mass demonstrations continue in protest of the recent overtures to the Confederate States. Over 400,000 crowded downtown Moscow for the fifth day of protest there. A number of Russian farm unions have called for a general strike on Wednesday to protest grain sales to the Confederate States of America. Yelena Khanga, legislative leader of the opposition Multiethnic People's Party, and a descendent of African-North Americans said, "Putin's alliance is Gingrich is a slap in the face my grandfather, who left North America in protest of the racist anti-human policies we are now supporting. It is beneath our proud motherland to support this type of policy.

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FLASH IRNA MILNET 1224 EST 2 OCTR 2012... IRNA NAVY ASSETS FROM USS SPIRO AGNEW ENGAGED CONFEDERATE C-16 FIGHTERS AFTER EXCHANGE BETWEEN CSA NAVY AND CUBAN NAVY. F-26 CENTERFIELDERS ENGAGED WITH C-16S PILOTS REPORT C-16 MODIFIED. POSSIBLE SOVIET AVIONIC ENHANCEMENTS CEASE FIRE AND STAND DOWN ORDERED FROM PENTAGON AT 1216 EST.

SOVIET NAVY CONFIRMS STAND DOWN ORDER FROM SOVIET NAVAL ASSETS CIVILIAN CARGO ALLOWED TO CONTINUE TO CNS MOBILE PER PRESIDENTIAL ORDER.

SECONDARY PRESIDENTIAL ORDER IS COVERT MONITORING OF OFFLOAD FROM GROUND ASSETS AT MOBILE.

ALL FORCES IN THE ATLANTIC SECTOR HAVE BEEN MOVED UP TO DEFCON THREE. ALL IRNA FORCES WORLDWIDE ARE AT DEFCON FOUR, PENDING FINDINGS OF GROUND INTELLIGENCE AT MOBILE.

This is CBS Radio News, I'm Felicia Middlebrooks...Confederate, Cuban and IRNA naval forces are standing down at the hour after a noon-time exchange of fire in the Gulf of Mexico off the coast of Florida and Alabama today. The fight began when a Cuban patrol boat attempted to interdict a group of Soviet cargo vessels. According to IRNA Navy reports when the Cuban and American vessels approached the Soviet, the Confederates attempted to ram the Cuban boat. The Cuban answered with warning fire at the Confederates returned fire, hitting and damaging the patrol boat. From there American and Confederate naval force fire on each other and planes from aircraft carrier engaged in the air. Each side lost a plane. Diplomats on both sides brokered a cease fire for all naval forces, and the Soviet cargo ships were allowed to continue to Mobile, Alabama. According to the Confederate News Agency, vessels contained only emergency humanitarian aid for the CSA, which was hard hit by this summer's drought and by Hurricane Felicity one month ago, which damaged a great deal of the Confederate coast from Tallahassee to Pascagoula.

President Giuliani is expected to comment on the incident later this afternoon during his Tuesday White House press briefing. After the briefing the President is scheduled to head to Illinois for campaign and preparation for Thursday night 's Presidential debate at Bradley University in Peoria.

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The White House -- 2:30pm Eastern Standard Time Tuesday October 2, 2012.

"Bibi, what do you have? I need to know what the hell happened down there!" President Giuliani said to his National Security Advisor Benjamin Netanyahu.

Netanyahu answer calmly in his accent that its as much Philly when he grew up as it was Jaffa, Palestine where he was born. "Mr. President. The damn Cuban panic fired and got us entangled in it. We launched fighters from the Agnew and we had a dogfight. It's just as well. We will probably have to fire shells at them sooner or later."

Ari Flescher looked up from his Nokia Iceberg, "Mr. Netanyahu, we'd rather not fire at anybody. This could go badly out of control.

"Mr. Fleischer, this was out of control the minute that bastard Putin sent them grain. I don't trust Putin at all. But Putin and Gingrich together? We're lucky we have a cease fire."

"So you tell me what I need to tell these press people, Bibi."

"Tell them the fact. We were only involved as far as defending the fleet. We aren't responsible for the Russian action. We pulled back before thing got worse."

"Why did we pull back?"

Netanyahu answered quickly. "Time. Tenet has people on the ground in Alabama. We need to know what we are up against. Right now we don't have the provocation to justify armed conflict. Why give the Soviets or the Confederates a PR victory, especially when we are building a strong case...and that case is getting stronger by the minute."

"What do you mean," Fleischer asked.

"We have a lot of intelligence data coming in, from a lot of sources. The Russian and the Confederates have been busy. We have confirmation that the Soviet Russians have been sending military aid and advisors to the CSA. That explains the change in tactics in Arkansas for starters.

"The CSA has always cracked down against dissident protests," Fleischer argued.

"Not shutting down an entire state," Netanyahu answered back. "The Soviet Russians have made an art form of that. Remember Stravopol in '64? Tihrana in '73...Gorky protest in '84. Chechnya 3 years ago. The Russians have brought Derzhinsky Square to Atlanta.

A staffer bolted into the oval office, he was holding a DVD. "Mr. President SIR? This came in from Tenet. He says you really need to see this before you enter that press conference."

"Oh?" The President asked. "What is it."

"Soviet Deputy Prime Minister was on an East German news program earlier, and she had very interesting things to say. Tenet thinks you should give it a look, some of the newsies might have.

Ari Fleischer had his laptop with him. He set it on the President's desk, and put the DVD in.

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RUSSIAN DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER OLGA GOLODETS: Katarina, the Union of Soviet Socialist Russia has nothing to do with the armed conflict off the coast of the Confederate States today. Our vessel were on a mission of peace to deliver humanitarian aid to a nation in need. Why Cuba or the IRNA or the other lackey states of North America have to demonized Soviet Russia escapes me.

MULTIETHNIC PEOPLE'S PARTY LEADER YELENA KHANGA: OLGA GORDIEVA!!! Really, how you let the lie out of the mouth so smoothy. We are partly responsible! Why are we giving aid to a nation that is committing gross violations of human rights. Such rights violate the very values that our nation stands for. We are supposed to be a nation uphold the right of all men to live and breathe free. That is what we profess as Soviet Russians, yet we would stand shoulder-to-shoulder with fascists?

GOLODETS: Yelena the majority of the Soviet Russian people stand with Comrade General Secretary Putin, they support the possibly of doing a good moral deed for a nation in need and possibly opening up a market. Now that is my area. As an economist as a deputy minister in charge of labor, it is my duty as a servant of the Soviet people to find new markets that is part of what this entreaty is about.

KATARINA WITT: But Deputy Prime Minister, it has been documented what the CSA has done to dissidents.. The recent crackdown in their country in their state of Arkansas, not to mention the pogroms against blacks that date back 60 years or more. Why does Soviet Russia want to befriend such a country?

GOLODETS: We do not deny that the Confederate States of America has a checkered human rights record.

KHANGA: IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAT WHAT PUTIN HAS THE FORCES DOING IN CHECHNYA!

GOLODETS: WE ARE DEFENDING RUSSIAN INTEREST AGAINST MOSLEM EXTREMISTS! We are making Russia safe for the whole of decent Soviet society.

KHANGA: Deputy Prime Minister, if you substituted the world "white" for the word "Russia or Russian", you would become like Newton Gingrich. That is what he says. Is that the path our Soviet Motherland should take?

GOLODETS: How shall we help foster change if we don't constructively engage? That is what we are trying to do, Comrade Khanga. That is what Comrade General Secretary Putin wants to do. Show them the fruit of cooperation and peace.

WITT: Deputy Prime Minister, they have been reports that some of those fruits can be used against protestors or troops in neighboring countries that the CSA don't agree with.

GOLODETS: You are referring the article in Die Stern last week about arms sales. Katarina, it is absolute rubbish. The Union of Soviet Socialist Russia has strict policies on military aid. We have given no such aid to the Confederate States.

KHANGA: We are giving them such aid now! Why are we sending new generation attack subs and missile cruisers into the Atlantic.

GOLODETS: Ask the the militarists in Washington liks Giuliani and that evil Netanyahu man why Supercarriers are harassing our shipping. Ask Portillo why QE Class nuclear carriers are harassing Soviet merchant ships on a mission of international goodwill?

KHANGA: What you are hearing Katarina is the Putin regime once again being an instigator worldwide and then playing the victim. I thought those days ended 25 or 30 years ago. We thought they ended in 2001. Oh, and Deputy Prime Minister, when you return from East Berlin, perhaps look at the window of your ZIL limousine and see the millions of our people who are in the street in opposition to the flirtation with fascism you call a mission of peace.

GOLODETS: Ms. Khanga, a few malcontents will not dissuade what the silent majority of our people feel is the just cause. The idea of Soviet Russia standing for peace and humanitarian relief in the world. The Soviet Russian people will not stand by and see a mission of peace threatened. General Secretary Putin and all of our Russian government are of one voice. Today is the last day that we will see Soviet ships in harms way without a response from the USSR.

WITT: Does that mean that Soviet Russian forces will engage along side CSA naval forces if we have a repeat of today.

GOLODETS: I am saying Ms. Witt, Soviet personnel on the seas have the right to defend themselves.

KHANGA: What Olga is saying our nation has gone from socialist unity to cheap facism.

GOLODETS: THAT IS SO FALSE, YELENA!

KHANGA: Is it? If it is why are you turning so red now, Olga Gordieva?

[Orville_third]

This can get bad.

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A bed and breakfast outside of Peoria, Illinois 7:05am Central Standard Time Wednesday October 3, 2012

President Giuliani prepares for the debate.

A lakefront home in Evanston, Illinois -- same time

Joe Biden is receiving rhetorical coaching from Michelle Robinson, a prominent Chicago civil right attorney.

Outside of a John Deere plant in Rockford, Illinois

Dennis Kucinich is protesting and marching right along side striking farm machinery workers.

A rented home in Schamburg, Illinois -- same time

Paul Ryan is up early doing his usual calisthenics routine, he is also watching NBC's "The Today Show with Ann Curry."

NBC News has received an extraordinary video address from the Confederate States, this morning. It comes from a group in opposition to the Gingrich government. The spokesperson claims to be a representative of a much-talked about group that goes mainly by "18".

We will play this video address now..

Voice of the news anchors around the world, were replaced by determined soft feminine voice. The siren song of a southern belle underneath a picture of the patron saint of their movement. The picture showed a symbol of southern pride.

It was 1970. The Manning Miracle season.

Good morning, good afternoon or good evening wherever you are on God's creation. This is the voice of southern freedom. I speak for the 18 Movement. We go by many names, but we all are united under the 18 Movement. It is named for a great hero in the cause of human rights, dignity and freedom. We miss you, General Manning! We pray for the day you can step foot in the land of your birth again without fear.

This message comes from an undisclosed location within the Confederate States of America. Many of our friends and loved ones are hiding, imprisoned, or have gone home. But those of us left behind will and must continue the fight.

President Newton Gingrich and his illegal Confederate Democrat regime will try and say that we are a few rabble-rousers. He has said that our young people have forgotten their manners. NO PRESIDENT GINGRICH! We have not forgotten what it means to be free. We have not forgotten that your party since 1977 has ruled illegitimately. We have not forgotten the blood of our martyrs. We have not forgotten Tammy Wynette or Medger Evers. We have not forgotten Richmond Flowers, Lamar Alexander or Bartlett Starr. We mourn the loss of southern treasures forced to flee their home from Martin Luther King in our parent's time to brothers and sisters in the cause like Tim Wise and Lawton Chiles today because of the irrational hatred of our grandfathers and great grandfathers.

The 18 Movement is born of the soil of the south. It is as white as porcelain and it is as black as night. It celebrates Tennessee Williams...and Louie Armstrong. It seeks the return of its black children from a long exile, and it seeks the return of humanity to its white children. It looks to a day when our heroes in the cause of freedom do not have to fear Atlanta's State Security Agencies anymore.

We are born of the North American south, but we stretch around the globe. From Texas to the Plains, to Calfornia, Latin America, Asia, Africa and Europe. Our movement seeks to put Godly, loving, global pressure on those doing wrong in Atlanta, and help them seek the Godly wisdom to do right by their fellow and man and woman and by the country we dearly love.

We look to the day when we are no longer needed and we can go back to living the way God meant us to...In peace.

We have 10 Demands so that our proud nation can truly live in real peace and be a contributing member to the family of the world again.

1. The ending of the illegal martial law in the state of Arkansas. This action violates at least 15 articles of the Confederate Constitution. We also demand that Governor Mike Huckabee immediately resigns from office.


2. We demand an immediate end on the restrictions of Independent media sources within the Confederate States, and an immediate end on Government control of the UniNet. DixieNet is nothing more than an organ of State Security to lie to the Confederate people. A government shall never have the license to lie to the people it serves.

3. We call for the removal of all Soviet personnel from Confederate territory. The Putin Government is just as illegitimate and criminal as the Gingrich Government. We should not truck nor trade with them. We support the anti-government protests within Soviet Russia. We hasten the day when the CSA and the USSR can have relations based on freedom and mutual human respect.

4. We demand the immediate resignation of Newton Gingrich from the office of President and the immediate dissolution of the Confederate Congress. The CSA's political processes have been corrupted beyond repair. We call for a coalition governing council made up of representatives of all groups seeking positive change for our country to reform the nation and organize free elections monitored by the United Nations.

5. We demand all Confederate armed forces stationed along our borders with the Industrial Republic of North America, the Great Plains United Republic and the Lone Star Republic of Texas be redeployed to a distance greater than 50 miles away from those borders. The redeployment will be monitored by UN Peacekeeping Forces and a contingent of forces raised by the Organization of American States. All elements of the CSA Forces staged overseas or at sea will return to Confederate territory immediately.

6. We demand the end of the compulsory border draft. The young generation of our nation are weary of seeing our kin, classmates and friends sent off to continue the endless provocation at our borders.

7. We demand the immediate dismantling of the Confederate Nuclear Rocket Forces under the auspices of a United Nations inspection team.

8. We demand the immediate dissolution of the Confederate Church Council. This body is unconstitutional, because it mandates laws that amount to the establishment of a state religion.

9. Immediate amnesty for all of our Confederate black brothers and sisters who have taken up arms against the illegitimate regime in Atlanta. The so-called "negro residents" of the Confederate States of America did not raise arms against the people our country. They acted as true southern patriots against a government that openly denied the rights of citizens of this land. No greater document that the Declaration of Independence which freed the earliest of our citizens from British tyranny endorses the actions that our black citizens of our country were forced to take due to the tyranny of the criminal Confederate Democrat cabal.

10. The immediate repeal of the Residents Act. Our black brothers and sisters who were born here are CITIZENS of the Confederate States of America, and they are endowed with all rights due citizens. We also demand full amnesty for all Confederate citizens who were tried in absentia for treason and sedition and the immediate release of all citizens who's only crime was thinking of what kind of society we've wrought. The Orwellian decisions that have marked much of the Confederate legal system have tainted that system. It is time to clean up the mess.

Until these demands are met, we of the 18 Movement will continue to harass the organs of government. We will continue to protest. We will continue to rebel. We will shut down the country if need be.

Our protests have been peaceful and they will remain so, but the Confederate Government has answered our protests with violence. In response we will continue our campaign of nonviolent noncooperation with this government. With that in mind, we call on Thursday October 4th in the Confederate States to be a day of prayer. We ask all citizens of our country to flood their churches on this day in a day of prayer for our nation.

We ask that every Confederate citizen go to the church house and pray to almighty God for the salvation of our country.

We ask each citizen to take that day as a day of action through the act of prayer.

We also extend our thanks to our blessed friends, workers and warriors for peace around the world. Your prayers and support have been instrumental in sustaining us through these trouble times.

The Confederacy shall be Godly, humane and free for all who live in it, and we will achieve this, in the words of the Plains freedom fighter, our brother Malcolm Little, BY ALL MEANS NECESSARY.

Thank you, and God bless you all. The free, humane south SHALL RISE!

[Orville_third]

That manifesto is beautiful.
A side bit- Many of the politicians in the South (and in the CSA) government appear to be Baptist. However, OTL (and likely TTL), many Baptists would be strongly opposed to state regulation of churches. Did the Fundamentalists take over the SBC sooner? What's the South's religious composition?

[Chipperback]

The battle for the White House moves to Illinois tonight. The Presidential Debates, live from Peoria, Illnois tonight on NBC News Decision 2012...coverage begins at 830p, Eastern. NBC News, your home for the best election coverage.

[Chipperback]

Next week the Vice Presidential candidates debate, but today they are on the campaign trail across the nation.

[Chipperback]

"Many of the politicians in the South (and in the CSA) government appear to be Baptist. However, OTL (and likely TTL), many Baptists would be strongly opposed to state regulation of churches. Did the Fundamentalists take over the SBC sooner? What's the South's religious composition?

The fundamentalist didn't take over the Southern Baptist Convention within the Convention, they marched hand in hand with the neo-Confederate movement of the 1940s. The Thurmond supporter and such, and in exchange for their support, Thurmond allowed for creation of a cabinet level department that become the Confederate Church Council. The CCC had regulatory power over what churches could say, teach and conduct affairs. The SBC was faced with a choice, and some choose to leave the CSA along with many of of the Methodist, Lutheran and the Black church leaders. Some accommodated and even collaborated, like Billy Graham and in the 1970s, Jerry Falwell, who was the High Minister of the CCC under Presidents Jesse Helms and Trent Lott. Falwell was assassinated by a car bomb planted by the Southern Black Fist in 2004.

But some, such as internal prisoner Rev. Dr. James Earl Carter Jr. have stayed and fought, even through imprisonment and harassment. It is surprising to some outside the CSA why the government didn't execute the opposition leader..But the thought of him dying a martyr scared the Helms, Lott, Alexander and even the Gingrich government.

The simple man from Plains, Georgia known as "Jimmy" has the resonance in the Freedom Struggle akin to Nelson Mandela in OTL, even at age 85...Carter is of sound mind and still very active even under internal exile. He still grins a lot, even more today...Because his grandchildren have made their presence felt..

Even as CSA soldiers and technician hundreds of miles west in Arkansas began assembling instruments of nuclear death...

[Luath]

Originally Posted by Chipperback

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[Chipperback]

With more on the Knicks, we turn to MSG's Stephen A. Smith covering the Knicks return to camp.

PAT RILEY HAS A LOT OF HIS MIND!!! Normally, he would be only thinking about how to get the New York Knickerbockers past the ALMIGHTY PHILADELPHIA 76ERS AND THE TRINITY OF LEBRON, WADE AND THE BLACK MAMBA, MR. KOBE BRYANT...

But this isn't a normal year...No, its not a normal year!!! BECAUSE HIS WIFE HILLARY RODHAM RILEY IS RUNNING FOR VICE PRESIDENT...and she stands a very good chance of winning..

Pat, how you holdin' up brother?



Stephen A., I'm hanging in there and happy to be back in camp with the team. Back with Amare and Carmelo...getting Ray Allen in a transfer deal with the Boston Celtics was huge, as was getting Darko Milacic from Europe. Brook Sales coming in from transfer will help. Mike Conley Jr. off the bench, and Brooks Sullinger, getting him away from Cavaliers was huge.

I got a team that can make a run, Stephen A.

That's a good offseason brother, BUT THE FANS WANNA KNOW IF BIDEN-RODHAM RILEY GETS THAT BIG 84, WHAT HAPPENS TO YOU? DO YOU HEAD FOR D.C.?

Only in the offseason, brother. My wife and I have an understanding. I love my wife. She's a winner and I think she could be a winner for this country. Hillary is a fighter, that why I love that lady and when they come to New York, I'm campaigning hard. I've been campaigning hard...I've even got the guys ready to vote for Joe and my wife...But I'm a basketball coach and win, lose or draw in November my focus is on winning the NBA in April and May and then winning North America in June.

YOU HEARD IT HERE. PAT RILEY'S MIND IS ON WINNING HIS RACE AND HIS WIFE WINNING HERS, TOO!...I'M STEPHEN A. SMITH, BACK TO YOU IN THE STUDIO.

[Chipperback]

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