Es Geloybte Aretz - a Germanwank

[imperialaquila]

And now he knows. This should be fun.

[Jonathan Edelstein]

The question now is whether Wilhelm will try to do too much all at once - that, and whether Maharero will get the credit he deserves for saving the country.

[Jotun]

This is a moment that is going to be immortalized in future books and movies ITTL. The spiritual turning point of the war against the ebil Russians and whatnot. I rikey

[Dathi THorfinnsson]

Hold it. This cadet is BLACK!?!??

Wont THAT set the cat amongst the pigeons!?

Or do i have the name wrong, and hes not from namibia? Possibly a chief's son?

If he is, that would also explain why hes not trusted at the front.

[Zmflavius]

Originally Posted by Dathi THorfinnsson

Hold it. This cadet is BLACK!?!??

Wont THAT set the cat amongst the pigeons!?

Or do i have the name wrong, and hes not from namibia? Possibly a chief's son?

If he is, that would also explain why hes not trusted at the front.

He's from Namibia, he's also the son of Samuel Maharero. And I don't think there's been any Herero genocide in this timeline (or any other serious war crimes in Namibia...yet).

[PariahNihil]

Originally Posted by Zmflavius

He's from Namibia, he's also the son of Samuel Maharero. And I don't think there's been any Herero genocide in this timeline (or any other serious war crimes in Namibia...yet).

I've read many comments about the war still ongoing in Sudwest Afrika.

[Admiral Matt]

Originally Posted by PariahNihil

I've read many comments about the war still ongoing in Sudwest Afrika.

Ayup, but that was against the Nama, IIRC, not the Herrero.

[PariahNihil]

Originally Posted by Admiral Matt

Ayup, but that was against the Nama, IIRC, not the Herrero.

The Germans massacred both in due time.

[Zmflavius]

Originally Posted by PariahNihil

The Germans massacred both in due time.

I think Carlton hinted, however, that wholesale massacres a la OTL are unlikely, certainly for the Herero (due to Germany bothering to treat the Herero with respect), and to a significantly lesser scale for the Nama.)

You know, I just realized something. You might say that this sort of behavior led precisely to the antagonism between Hutu and Tutsi in Rwanda. If the Germans try to grab Nama land, do you reckon that something similar might develop ITTL.

[Syphon]

I can see some very senior people being sent letters by the Emperor,
saying, "Attend to me now!"

the the brown pants start.

[PariahNihil]

Originally Posted by Zmflavius

I think Carlton hinted, however, that wholesale massacres a la OTL are unlikely, certainly for the Herero (due to Germany bothering to treat the Herero with respect), and to a significantly lesser scale for the Nama.)

You know, I just realized something. You might say that this sort of behavior led precisely to the antagonism between Hutu and Tutsi in Rwanda. If the Germans try to grab Nama land, do you reckon that something similar might develop ITTL.

Possibly. I don't know enough about how the Germans corresponded with the peoples in the Ruanda-Urundi protectorate.

[Admiral Matt]

Originally Posted by PariahNihil

The Germans massacred both in due time.

AH FTW.

That is all.

[PariahNihil]

Originally Posted by Admiral Matt

AH FTW.

That is all.

It is already past the date for the war, but according to what everyone else is saying the Herero are fine and the Nama are the ones in trouble, so it's whatever `_`

[Lord Grattan]

Originally Posted by carlton_bach

24 June 1906, Berlin ...

... Friedrich Maharero carefully laid the books down, pulled the chair up to the bedside and sat. Then, he lowered his head almost level with the emperor's ear and spoke in a low voice: “Well, Your Majesty, it is like this...”

Heilige Scheiße!

[Obfuscated]

Originally Posted by Syphon

I can see some very senior people being sent letters by the Emperor,
saying, "Attend to me now!"

the the brown pants start.

Letters ? He's going to conscript his guards into palaquin bearers. There's going to be visits.

[Monty Burns]

Originally Posted by Jonathan Edelstein

The question now is whether Wilhelm will try to do too much all at once - that, and whether Maharero will get the credit he deserves for saving the country.

Another nice effect of this is that the Kaiser will ask why nobody wanted Maharero. I guess he'll get his field comission soon.

And of course the Kaiser will see Rathenau.

Even if the Kaiser is unfit to rule or interfere, the things he'll learn from these two will have a deep impact on him.

[carlton_bach]

Originally Posted by PariahNihil

I've read many comments about the war still ongoing in Sudwest Afrika.

THat's pretty much it. Germany ITTL regards the Herero as a "martial caste" and recruits them into its irregular forces in returnn for leaving them largely alone to live life the way they want. The Nama, on the other hand, are encroached on partly because they had bad luck early on and partly now because the Germans just discovered diamonds in Namaland. At the end of the day, the Herero will be a decorative native population much like the Zulu or Massai, and there will be very few Nama left in Namaland.

[carlton_bach]

Originally Posted by Dathi THorfinnsson

Hold it. This cadet is BLACK!?!??

Wont THAT set the cat amongst the pigeons!?

Or do i have the name wrong, and hes not from namibia? Possibly a chief's son?

If he is, that would also explain why hes not trusted at the front.

He is. The emperor put him in his corps of cadets for a proper education (like the sons of Indian rajas going to Eton or Sandhurst) and mostly forgot about him. Being much older than the other cadets, he also found himself accused of having played favouritism. "The Kaiser's pet nigger" is quite unpopular at Lichtenfelde.

[Dathi THorfinnsson]

Given that there is absolutely no mention of the cadet's ethnicity in this recent post, was it meant as a surprise?

Or has he appeared before.

Im interested in names, and maharero sure didnt look german or polish or anything obvious. I was more than half expecting some spanish ancestry, or something. So i googled it and went wtf!?

Now that i think about it, does his name mean essentially "the Herrero"? Like masotho is a man of the sotho, while basotho is people of the sotho? Also, botswana is the tswana people. Etc?

[Admiral Matt]

Originally Posted by Dathi THorfinnsson

Given that there is absolutely no mention of the cadet's ethnicity in this recent post, was it meant as a surprise?

Or has he appeared before.

There was an entry from his diary just after he met the young emperor, way back when.