Go Back   Alternate History Discussion Board > Discussion > Alternate History Discussion: After 1900

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old September 9th, 2012, 02:15 AM
Tongera Tongera is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Bristol, Great Britain
Posts: 1000 or more
Rape considered worst than murder

What POD would it take for rape to be considered one of the worst crimes to be committed, even worse than murder by most of society and to be treated accordingly.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old September 9th, 2012, 02:32 AM
ND4 ND4 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Shorewood, Illnois
Posts: 169
Somehow make it even more traumatizing for the rapeee?
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old September 9th, 2012, 02:46 AM
Polish Eagle Polish Eagle is online now
Resident Martian
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: The Great and Noble State of Long Island, Actually
Posts: 1000 or more
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tongera View Post
What POD would it take for rape to be considered one of the worst crimes to be committed, even worse than murder by most of society and to be treated accordingly.
One way is to eliminate the influence of certain Greek philosophers in the matter. Some Greek philosophers taught that women can only get pregnant if they too experience an orgasm (some rubbish about the female organs being mirrors of the male). Rape that resulted in pregnancy (the most socially significant kind in the ancient world), therefore, was considered consensual, and thus the woman was blamed as much as (or more than) the man.

Make it universally accepted as forced and violent and therefore completely an attack on an innocent would therefore make rape an attack, not just on the individual, but on the entire family, an attempt by the rapist to ruin the usable daughters of a family. While that social justification would become less relevant as time went on, the stigma attached to rapists would be much stronger than IOTL.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by MacCaulay View Post
This just in: Majority of Americans Couldn't Pour Piss Out Of A Boot If There Were Instructions On The Heel.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old September 9th, 2012, 06:01 AM
Coalition Coalition is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Georgia, USA
Posts: 602
Of course you have the situation of where if rape is worse, the rapist will kill the victim, to go to jail for the lesser crime.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old September 10th, 2012, 03:39 AM
Evan Evan is offline
Free Hawaii!
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: The United States of America
Posts: 1000 or more
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coalition View Post
Of course you have the situation of where if rape is worse, the rapist will kill the victim, to go to jail for the lesser crime.
Until science/mores advance enough that people could and would look at the corpse and see what had happened before her death.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian the Admin View Post
I'm not going to make an encyclopedic list of groups which it's definitely not OK to be bigoted against, just in case people aren't sure.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old September 10th, 2012, 03:42 AM
Jello_Biafra Jello_Biafra is offline
In ur means of production...
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Earth, to my misfortune
Posts: 1000 or more
Send a message via MSN to Jello_Biafra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Evan View Post
Until science/mores advance enough that people could and would look at the corpse and see what had happened before her death.
It still places a perverse incentive to kill your victim. After all, you lose nothing in terms of potential punishment, and you silence a potential witness.
__________________
The Great Crusade (Reds! Part 3)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Georgepatton View Post
There's an appropriate amount of sexualiztion for Hitler?
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old September 10th, 2012, 04:32 AM
Tocomocho Tocomocho is offline
My other car is a steam tank.
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 1000 or more
Short of everyone converting to Catarism ("terrenal life sucks, funerals are parties, bringing life to this sinful world a crime") I can't see this happening.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by statichaos
I know that I've flirted with ASB here and there, but Ed Wood a good director? That's the artistic equivalent of Sealion.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old September 10th, 2012, 08:00 AM
tallthinkev tallthinkev is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Cambridge. The real one!
Posts: 875
It does seem to me, that in many cases rape is worse. Being accused of rape always sticks even when if that person was not even there, their life is over. No smoke without fire and all that. Accused of murder? He/she didn't do it and life begin's again. Before the Labour goverment took power, in '97, all those involed in a invesigtion of a sex crime where anomous, names only came out when the party was found guilty. So much for Jack Straw and Tony, worship him, Blair.
__________________
And we now return you to Lords and the TMS team.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old September 10th, 2012, 01:05 PM
Bob in Pittsburgh Bob in Pittsburgh is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Pittsburgh PA
Posts: 166
There is no question in my mind that this would encourage murder. It is much easier for a lawyer to defend a murder trial than a rape trial. The rape victim testifing "He is the one who did this to me" is difficult to counter. This, in part, is why consent is so often raised as a defense.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old September 10th, 2012, 01:32 PM
Meadow Meadow is offline
Deluded Leftist
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Croydon
Posts: 1000 or more
You'd need to go back long before 1900 and change how we view the sanctity of life (by which I mean actual life, not some anti-abortion mumbo jumbo) as a world society. Christianity, Judaism and Islam having a different view of what it is to take a life would be a good start. I think the only way you'll make rape worse is to make murder 'better'. Maybe the logic that a rape victim must live with his or her torment, while a murder victim has ascended to a higher plane and is happy now?
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 01:24 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.